Car Sales Data (2014)

**CVT** · November 14th, 2014 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by jut703

There's still that small (and dwindling) market of people who actually prefer driving stick bro. Unfortunately very very few people drive manuals anymore today so it's hard for people like me to find a good MT car as the manufacturers don't bring them in anymore.

I can no less agree with you on that dear bro.,- as I am part of that dwindling crowd, too... I am "encouraged" only to buy A/T rides as wifey prefers them, so she could drive them, too.... That is why I am not giving up my "old faithful" M/T Van,- as I love driving it (the shift has very little play when changing gears and so the race car feel... hahaha!)....

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**Newcomer123** · November 14th, 2014 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by jut703

There's still that small (and dwindling) market of people who actually prefer driving stick bro. Unfortunately very very few people drive manuals anymore today so it's hard for people like me to find a good MT car as the manufacturers don't bring them in anymore.

The problem with car suppliers is they remove most amenities from m/t models making them very drab and undesirable compared to a/t counterparts. Features as basic as abs, mags and srs airbags shouldn't be removed just to reduce the price.

That said, I commend Subaru for their BRZ. and Isuzu for the LS-M MUx for coming out with higher end m/t models, where others like Mazda which had already discarded from their M3 lineup.

**Egan101** · November 14th, 2014 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by Newcomer123

A 300k discount just may be enough to run the market crazy

Last year, Honda BGC offered me almost 300k of discount on the 8th gen Accord (deducted on the DP). The Civic promo was only 10% off its sticker price. Around May this year, I asked again on their various dealer promos (was inquiring about the Civic). They said all remaining stocks of 8th gen were sold, as well as the 2013 Civics. The sales agent told me the discount was even higher in December 2013 and January 2014, around 400k on the 2.4L and 500k on the 3.5L.

Subaru also offered some big discounts (up to 250k) on the Legacy GT sedan and wagon. It was even reported in TopGearPH.

**dct** · November 14th, 2014 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by Newcomer123

The problem with car suppliers is they remove most amenities from m/t models making them very drab and undesirable compared to a/t counterparts. Features as basic as abs, mags and srs airbags shouldn't be removed just to reduce the price.

That said, I commend Subaru for their BRZ. and Isuzu for the LS-M MUx for coming out with higher end m/t models, where others like Mazda which had already discarded from their M3 lineup.

Kaya walang pila sa m/t mu-x. Unlike sa a/t na mahaba ang pila

**Louie Anson Ng** · November 14th, 2014 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by Newcomer123

The problem with car suppliers is they remove most amenities from m/t models making them very drab and undesirable compared to a/t counterparts. Features as basic as abs, mags and srs airbags shouldn't be removed just to reduce the price.

That said, I commend Subaru for their BRZ. and Isuzu for the LS-M MUx for coming out with higher end m/t models, where others like Mazda which had already discarded from their M3 lineup.

According to a source of mine they might bringing a manual version of the M3, which will be priced lower than the 1.5V, some featurees might also be stripped out

**basti08** · November 14th, 2014 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by Louie Anson Ng

According to a source of mine they might bringing a manual version of the M3, which will be priced lower than the 1.5V, some featurees might also be stripped out

Wow!!! This is to watch out for. Anyway, *Berjaya I could make do without the (1.5V's) Push start/stop, strip away the auto climate controls, foglights (aftermarket na lang) and even the parking sensors. Throw in the sunroof though ;)

**Egan101** · November 14th, 2014 11:53 AM

^^^ Why not wish for the Mazda3 2.0L in MT tranny? Or maybe a Mazda3 MT with the 2.5L SkyActiv-G engine? Take away the i-Loop, start-stop, climate control, and some other stuff.

**jut703** · November 14th, 2014 12:58 PM

TOTL MT? Never gonna happen. At least not anymore. Ford and Honda tried that before, nilangaw lang ang Civic 2.0S and Focus TDCi MT.

**Egan101** · November 14th, 2014 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by jut703

TOTL MT? Never gonna happen. At least not anymore. Ford and Honda tried that before, nilangaw lang ang Civic 2.0S and Focus TDCi MT.

Well, di nga bumenta yung Civic 2.0 MT. Di na nga ata sinama yun sa lineup nung 2nd release ng Civic FD (2009-2011). Some say only less than 200 were sold during 2006-2008. Though sa mga naghahanap sa used market, they are priced around 400-450k. The 2007-2008 Ford Focus TDCi MT are now sold around 300k-400k (used).

How about Subaru's approach with the BRZ? The same price for either MT or AT tranny. Not sure though which BRZ model sells better.

**niky** · November 14th, 2014 04:10 PM

In the US, the mix is 50:50 or even 60:40 in favor of the manual.

Here, I'd wager it's around 50:50. People buying the 86 want it for the driving experience, not the convenience.

A "hot" Mazda3 or Civic still has to do double duty as a daily driver.

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The Civic is more expensive secondhand than the TDCi, but it's faster (AT to AT, though, the Focus is better off the line, but the Civic will eclipse it on the highway), from what I've seen. About SiR fast (but muuuuuuch easier to launch), and with better amenities, space and handling... despite the lack of double-wishbone suspension.

If you can find one secondhand, they make great project cars. The stock engine easily makes 200 - 250 whp under boost, and there are a lot of performance and cosmetic parts available for the platform.