Brand new Hatchback or 2nd Hand SUV

[ishimaro]

Hi guys,

Hihingi lang sana ako ng opinion. My wife and I are contemplating of getting either the 1.2 Swift AT or a 2nd hand SUV. My wife will be driving this during weekdays on her way to her office and back (50kms per day) while I'll be driving during weekends for out of town trips (Baguio and Baler once/twice a month). We are getting an average of 2000kms mileage every month with our current ride ('98 Diesel Mits Adventure). Nagrereklamo na kasi si ang wife ko dahil pagod na sya magmanual, she can't bear the engine noise anymore and may kalampag na rin. may plan naman kami ipaayos.

We considering to get the Swift because we think this is the best for a 600k budget. But since we can pay in full, my in-laws mentioned that we consider getting a 2nd hand SUV since we usually go out of town and also because of the road conditions here in the metro (floods / potholes / uneven roads). Okay, point taken. My parents says otherwise. Iba pa rin ang brand new.

Based on our 600k budget, 2006-2008 Fortuner 2.7 VVT-i AT ang nakita namin. We read somewhere in the forum na matagtag ang fortuner which We believe we can already deal with it. mas matagtag naman siguro ang adventure namin. aside from the ride comfort, wala na ko narinig na common issue. please let me know if there's something else.

We plan to keep the car for a long term. No plans having a baby yet so just only the 2 of us. Also some of our friends for the out of town trips, usually 4-5 adults.

Based na napag pilian namin, eto ung naiisip namin pro/cons:

1.2 Swift AT
Pros:
1. Brand New. Also, we get to smell the brand new scent of the interior
2. Fuel Efficient
3. Good for city driving based on our test drive.

Cons:
1. Cramped space. It can get 5 people inside but expect that it will be cramped.
2. Small luggage space
3. I doubt that a 1.2 liter engine can easily traverse uphill roads with full of passengers and luggage.
4. We cant install a hitch receiver since it has small ground clearance. (for our bike rack) I don't like installing a cross bar on top or a strap-on bike carrier on the rear.
5. I'm not sure if Suzuki casas have good after sales service.

2006-2008 Fortuner 2.7 VVTi AT
Pros:
1. Big luggage space and additional passenger seats
2. Can wade knee-deep floods. We live near in flood prone areas. (Sta. Mesa)
3. We can install hitch receiver.
4. Can easily traverse uphill roads. Based on my observation on Fortuners traversing kennon road / nueva ecija - aurora road (going to Baler). Lampaso kaming naka adventure and any other vans.
5. It's a Toyota.
6. Wife may be get used to the ride height easily. (Was used to drive adventure, sta. fe, x-trail)

Cons:
1. It's a second hand. considering we can only get 2006-2008 model due to our budget limitations, we are getting an almost 10 year old car.
2. Fuel Consumption. (We expect poor fuel consumption on city driving)
3. I assume the spare parts will be scarce soon enough because I've heard there is a new model coming out. Please correct me if i'm wrong.

If you're in this kind of scenario, which one do you prefer? or any other suggestions?

Thanks.

[bukriv]

I'd go with the Swift. Mas tipid sa gas lalo na araw-araw gagamitin. Masarap din ma-experience yung new car scent, ganyan din ako nung pinalitan ko yung 2nd hand-bought car ko dati.

[StockEngine]

2000km 5-7.5km/li

thats 300-400liters of fuel monthly.

You can use cheapest petrol...

The 2.7 is highly reliable. just fs oil change(yearly regardless of mileage) and every 50k tranny oil change. Sparkplugs every 65k after switching to iridium.

[Syuryuken]

Sa 600k marami ka pang pwedeng pagpiliang SUV at CUV

[Juan Martinez]

considering that you're planning to keep the car for long, grab the brand new swift. then recon your adventure for the flood.
in second hand, there's a great possibility that you might be buying a headache, you'd be having a long term headache.

[boytsiks]

Use the 600k for dp for a brand new CUV. Hehehe! Best of both worlds, comfort with a bit of ride height.

Im saying this because you still have no plans for babies. I assume you can spare some of your budget for monthly amortization.

But if we're going to stick with your choice, ill probably get the bnew swift because you already have an advie. Ill use the swift daily and use the advie when the need arises (floods or out of town trips).

[1D4LV]

hmmm. among your choices, i would still go for the fortuner.... iba pa din ang mas malaki and you do provincial drives regularly. you appreciate the space, the high clearance and sturdier chassis..

kung city driving lang, i would go for the Swift.

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hmmm. among your choices, i would still go for the fortuner.... iba pa din ang mas malaki and you do provincial drives regularly. you appreciate the space, the high clearance and sturdier chassis..

kung city driving lang, i would go for the Swift.

[joey_ed27]

As what your parents said "Iba parin ang brandnew". A 2nd hand SUV will be enticing at first but not in the long run. Soon after you'l probably realize its not so much different than your current ride except that its AT. Considering that it will be your wife's daily ride to the office, the maneuverability and comfort of a car is a plus. Clearly that is your priority over the occasional out of town trips.

On the other hand I think its also the perfect timing to get a good deal if you really want an SUV. New models of the fortuner, montero, and everest are coming out this year if Im not mistaken. If your lucky enough, you might just stumble into someone who just wants a quick upgrade.

Goodluck on your choice sir.

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As what your parents said "Iba parin ang brandnew". A 2nd hand SUV will be enticing at first but not in the long run. Soon after you'l probably realize its not so much different than your current ride except that its AT. Considering that it will be your wife's daily ride to the office, the maneuverability and comfort of a car is a plus. Clearly that is your priority over the occasional out of town trips.

On the other hand I think its also the perfect timing to get a good deal if you really want an SUV. New models of the fortuner, montero, and everest are coming out this year if Im not mistaken. If your lucky enough, you might just stumble into someone who just wants a quick upgrade.

Goodluck on your choice sir.

[bjreyesmd]

From your post, I reckon you will need a reliable car. Having bought both 2nd hand and brand new cars in the past, from experience, consider 2nd hand if its 5 years or younger, otherwise you are better off buying brand new. 600k may be too much to invest for a 9-year old car.

[airolynx]

My vote goes to the brand new Swift. A 9 year old fortuner will have its own set of headaches. Some of the things you need to watch out for:

- Bald tyres (these cost 5-6k each to replace).
- Suspension parts for replacement (more expensive than that found on your Advie since this is an SUV)
- Possible failing electronics (Alarm/keyless system, power door locks, power windows, power side mirrors)
- Possible dirty air conditioning system

Of course not to mention the Fortuner will not have that brand new scent.

[n_spinner06]

I agree on the swift. From experience, kahit gaano katibay at well maintained yung vehicle, lalabas din talaga ang mga sakit habang naluluma. It will definitely show it's age sooner or later. So less headache on the swift esp if magiging daily driver. Hassle yung mga downtime if may kailangan irepair every now and then.

[cityfolk]

Won't you consider a middle ground option of an MPV like the Ertiga or the Mobilio. You get the refinement of a car and the interior space of an SUV. The ground clearance of those two are higher than a hatch though not as high as a SUV. Tipid pa sa gasolina and easy to maneuver around the city compared to a SUV. Hindi masyadong malayo sa budget mo.

[dct]

Pwede rin mpv like mobilo or ertiga. Ang problema 800k na ang A/T nito. Pasok sana sa 600k ang base ng ertiga pero M/T e

[jcal68]

Hmm. . .I would go for the diesel SUV. These diesel powered vehicles are heavy duty built and believe would better stand against he ravages of Philippine weather and road conditions.

In-laws want more space which often translates to space.

[ruelle41]

How about a 2nd hand Innova? You'd probably get one newer and in a better condition than a Fortuner of similar pricing. They're extremely common so parts should be easy, and mechanics should be familiar with them. And like what the OP said, 'it's a Toyota'.

[yapoy86]

go brandnew. If i were you, i'll buy the swift and restore the advie to pristine condition.

[RomeoAlpha]

brand new swift (drooling about this car) pero i ahve a vios, which is amazing as well. you may want to consider other options, mitsu, nissan, honda, etc. laki budget mo Sir.

you have all the options, pero imho, i would rather suggest na ipang down mo na alng yang 600k mo ng CUV/SUV or APV ata tawag dun like Ertiga, Innova, Ecosport, Mobilio, Avanza, and etc. dami ng choices Sir.

then either you can sell your advie or keep it.

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brand new swift (drooling about this car) pero i ahve a vios, which is amazing as well. you may want to consider other options, mitsu, nissan, honda, etc. laki budget mo Sir.

you have all the options, pero imho, i would rather suggest na ipang down mo na alng yang 600k mo ng CUV/SUV or APV ata tawag dun like Ertiga, Innova, Ecosport, Mobilio, Avanza, and etc. dami ng choices Sir.

then either you can sell your advie or keep it.

[timming_gear]

For me second hand fortuner hanap ka na lang ng pristine Condition makikita mo naman sa unit yan at kadamihan sa Gas na second ay Fresh pa sa Mahal ng Gasolina bihira magamit. Matibay ang 2.7 vvti at matipid sa maintenance, spark plugs lang sapat na ☺

[ishimaro]

Thanks mga sir.

Pag iisipan namin maigi ni misis. Gusto namin tatagal tulad ng adventure namin. (high school days pa lang dinadrive na namin). that car really lives up to its name. ganun din sana sa susunod na kotse namin.

We are actually not familiar on sedans and not even used to drive one. nasanay kami gumamit ng x-trail / advie / sta. fe (CUV). kasing tibay lang ba ng under-chassis ang sedans compared sa CUV / SUV? we sometimes tend to approach the rough roads instead of avoiding it and so far hindi naman kami nasiraan ng suspension . nang nagtest drive kami ng swift, nakatingala kami at halos di makita ang hood. hehe. we are not complaining though. we love the interior and the smooth ride. I just imagine this would be a big adjustment for our driving habits if ever we get the swift.

We also love the Ertiga and Mobilio, but we could not afford to stretch our budget any more.

good point on using the adventure pag expected na baha sa daan. But we have limited parking space and I don't want to park along the road. so igagarahe na lang ang adventure sa parents ko if ever makakuha na ng kotse. we don't have plans to sell the adventure.

Di naman kami nagmamadali to get a new car but we are hoping to get one before pumasok ang tag ulan. I checked sa olx and I saw a fortuner 2006 having a mileage of 59xxx kms. so less than 6000kms ang takbo nya every year, more or less. what do you think?

[timming_gear]

Pwede kang tumawad ng malaki sa Gas sir kasi bihira nag hahanap ng Gas na fortuner yung 600k mo makakabili na yan at least 2008 model pataas