Battle of the Transmissions: M/T vs. A/T

[rozer9981]

The most important thing to consider when deciding to buy a car is how much you're going to use it. Obviously, if it's just going to sit outside your dorm or apartment for four years, it's not worth it. And if you find yourself driving alongside university buses all the time, car ownership may still not be a great idea.

Where is your school? Are you in the middle of nowhere, or are you in a city with public transportation?
How comprehensive are campus shuttles?
How many people on campus have cars? If the number is relatively small, you can probably get by with your student ID and walking shoes.

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2013 MERCEDES aBENZ SL-CLASS

[kerpzter]

agree with this

[kerpzter]

para sakin, halos pareho lang, depende sa paggagamitan and location. pag city driving na super traffic okay si at pero pag long drive with some resing resing ill with manual IMHO

[erick_214]

My take, let's take this in a different view.
MT for REAL men and AT for 50-50...Of course people will buy stuff according to their personal preference di ba?

[StockEngine]

SkyActiv Drive – Automatic Transmission of the Future

Automatic transmissions are commonplace in modern vehicles, but like all technological breakthroughs, they were met with scepticism early in their inception. Early slush boxes had question marks against their reliability, durability, and fuel economy; all unavoidable issues due to the inherently complex design of these transmissions versus a traditional manual transmission.

Over the years, increasing human dependency on automation and not to mention congestion of roads have made automatic transmissions ever more appealing despite their initial shortcomings, and automakers were challenged to simply make better gearboxes to meet consumer needs. Most have stuck with refining the traditional stepped automatic transmission, whilst some have explored alternative solutions, with the CVT and dual clutch transmission being two of the most prominent examples that come to mind.

Each of the three different types of automatic transmissions have their own pros and cons, and selecting between the three often boils down to a preference to the type of driving experience that they offer. Dual clutch transmissions are typically suited in delivering sportier driving sensations due their ability to switch gears in lightning quick time and also because they have a more direct feel like a manual transmission.

The biggest drawback about dual clutch transmissions is that they generally lack low speed smoothness, and this is where CVTs excel. Due to its belt-driven design, CVTs are inherently smooth and greatly suited for applications that place high priority on refinement. Unfortunately, CVTs lack the mechanical robustness for high torque applications and their stepless driving sensations are not to everyone’s tastes, especially enthusiasts.

Drivers from different regions have different preferences, and it was found that the driving characteristics of CVTs are most highly-prized in the Japanese market that prioritizes low-speed smoothness and refinement. Europeans prefer the sportier sensations of dual clutch gearboxes while Americans are still partial to the traditional torque converter automatic transmission. A car maker that is able to blend all these characteristics into one transmission would steal a very important march in transmission development.

Mazda’s new 6-speed automatic transmission, dubbed SkyActiv-Drive, is in essence a traditional stepped automatic transmission with a torque converter, but it is one that has been given an ambitious engineering brief to deliver the best virtues of the three types of automatic transmissions available without increasing complexity or weight. Like all other aspects of SkyActiv technology, Mazda essentially went back to the drawing board and rethought the automatic transmission from scratch.

With admirable determination, Mazda took on the various issues of the automatic transmission one-by-one and convincingly addressed them with simple and elegant solutions. Excessive torque converter slippage that is the root cause of an automatic transmission’s performance and economy deficits is mitigated with a lock-up clutch.

That in itself is nothing new, but compared to existing designs, the SkyActiv-Drive has an exceptionally wide lock-up range that ensures a mechanically direct transmission of power available for longer periods of time. As such, instantaneous response is guaranteed whenever the accelerator is floored.

An advanced mechatronics module helps facilitate faster, smoother and more precise gear changes, thereby delivering the main selling point of a dual clutch gearbox without sacrificing the ability to make smooth start-ups from standstill. Actuators controlling the transmission’s hydraulic system are operated by highly responsive direct linear solenoids.

The highly-innovative nature of this transmission is further highlighted by the fact that Mazda was able to achieve all that it set out to do by designing a transmission that is lighter and more compact than the unit it replaced. Mazda’s internal data points to fuel savings of 4-7% contributed by this transmission, and countless reviewers have praised its impressive smoothness in operation. This is a truly remarkable transmission with benefits that are both measurable and subjective.

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[ACarEnthusiast]

I learned how to drive using a MT jeep, our family car was an AUV with MT, my 1st issued company car was a MT, then another MT and the most recent MT. Familiarity wise and daily driving i would still fancy the MT. But when encountering terrible traffic and long drives with no other vehicles the need for an AT is usually a want.

Also, what mechanics tell me its more expensive to maintain an AT than MT. With the advent of Sequential Manual Transmissions, I think you get the best of both worlds.

[vinzidcel]

MT talaga gusto ko pero after 2 years nakakapagod na din pala. Province ako from North kaya masarap idrive ang manual kasi walang trapik pero pag naluluwas manila doon ko masasabi ok pala AT dami pang features hay kung maibabalik ko lang Owner of MS GLX-V here though.

[jansky]

Up to know di pa din ako convenient sa matic or di lang ako sanay lalo na s arangkadahan parNg bitin s power

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[beni23]

I installed a chip on my a/t 2.5L everest. Better acceleration than my manual cars and tumipid sa krudo. Very happy with the output.


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[dyey]

long driving mas ok AT

[Newcomer123]

Pag matic para kang disconnected sa kotse mo, parang me tinuturuan ka pa imbes gawin ng auto ang gusto mo.

Sa manual, ikaw at ang kotse ay iisa. Extension sya ng katawan mo so mas alert ka sa ikinikilos nya at parang alipin na susunod sya sa gusto mo.

So kung enjoy mo talaga ang pag drive, syempre manual ka , pero kung feeling pasahero lang gusto mo at grinding chore lang ang pagmaneho, matic ka na lang.

Pareho akong meron nyan so depende sa panlasa ko, yun ang dadalhin ko. (Pero ngayon madalas matic, sakit na tuhod ko eh)

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[Ciz]

Manual para sa below 40? Hehe


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[Leo_Arz]

Sa malupet na driver walang age limit, Kahit at / manual gamit Hindi namimili sa long o city driving :-p


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[Retz]

Pag matic para kang disconnected sa kotse mo, parang me tinuturuan ka pa imbes gawin ng auto ang gusto mo.

Sa manual, ikaw at ang kotse ay iisa. Extension sya ng katawan mo so mas alert ka sa ikinikilos nya at parang alipin na susunod sya sa gusto mo.

So kung enjoy mo talaga ang pag drive, syempre manual ka , pero kung feeling pasahero lang gusto mo at grinding chore lang ang pagmaneho, matic ka na lang.

Pareho akong meron nyan so depende sa panlasa ko, yun ang dadalhin ko. (Pero ngayon madalas matic, sakit na tuhod ko eh)

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cguro depende rin sa driver ng sasakyan aside sa sakit ng tuhod, ung iba madalas gumamit ng cellphone habang drive kaya mas convenient pa rin ang matic hirap din kahit ni speaker out ung phone.

[JohnM]

My retiree mom drives an MT. She loves taking provincial highway curves at speeds that make bus drivers cry.

[Newcomer123]

My retiree mom drives an MT. She loves taking provincial highway curves at speeds that make bus drivers cry.

She has that driver's spirit. Iba talaga kapag parang fighter na sarangola ang sasakyan, sunod sa bawat hatak. Wala nang mas nakakasaya pa duon.

Just sold my M/T Revo diesel, which performed beautifully in our last trip from Pasay to Baguio & Pagudpud then back. Might just replace it with another manual diesel, probably an Innova E, pang long trips ulit.

BTW, isa pang advantage ng manual ay kung mamatayan ka ng baterya, tulak-kadyot lang ang kailangan. Hindi mo magagawa yan sa matic. Nangyari na sa akin yan sa Tarlac. Dalawang tao lang tulak, andar ulit.

[Stigg ma]

She has that driver's spirit. Iba talaga kapag parang fighter na sarangola ang sasakyan, sunod sa bawat hatak. Wala nang mas nakakasaya pa duon.

Just sold my M/T Revo diesel, which performed beautifully in our last trip from Pasay to Baguio & Pagudpud then back. Might just replace it with another manual diesel, probably an Innova E, pang long trips ulit.

BTW, isa pang advantage ng manual ay kung mamatayan ka ng baterya, tulak-kadyot lang ang kailangan. Hindi mo magagawa yan sa matic. Nangyari na sa akin yan sa Tarlac. Dalawang tao lang tulak, andar ulit.

kadyot style is no longer applicable on newer cars specially the click lock starter of toyota (pre-push to start) and the push to start cars...

all i can say is it takes more skills to operate a MT than an AT...

not all people are the same, some just dont have that extra skills...

[romeocharlie]

all i can say is it takes more skills to operate a MT than an AT...

not all people are the same, some just dont have that extra skills...

Strong words huh?!

Do you think driving an M/T makes you a better driver in general?





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[Ciz]

Para sa mga nag ooffice na araw araw nakikipag sapalaran sa traffic siyempre they'd pick the AT.


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[_Cathy_]

I just got my first A/T car, I was hesitant at first having owned M/T in my 17 years of driving. I don't pass traffic to and from work but I have to say that I am very happy with my A/T