Battle of the Transmissions: M/T vs. A/T

[hinDMaxsiado]

oh well, i choose to compromise... AT w/ manual mode.

Puede na sa akin daddy ang 2012 8-speed Lexus IS F na AT with manual-mode
V8 engine, $61,000, 422 metric-hp, 502 Nm....

Mas mura pa sa $67,000 all-new V6 3.0-litre Nissan Navara STX-550 pickup na 230 metric-hp lang at 550 Nm torque

[AKI125]

My first post here.

Basically if youre living within metro manila and has the money to avail a AT model of the vehicle you desire then why not. Depends rin sa normal route mo kung bumper to bumper ba siya or wala naman masyadong traffic. Choosing between a MT and AT will also depend on the vehicle and its technology. If a said vehicle only comes with a 4 speed AT against its 5 speed MT then i would get myself the manual since knowingly we all knows that present AT models nowadays carries more gearing than those 4AT models. Presently 5AT na at 6AT na nilalabas sa market. The downside of AT vehicle is nakakatamad sa long drive like out of town trips, i woukd prefer a MT vehicle sa long trips para im in control of the vehicle like what dmaxiado mentioned dapat alam mo lang yun powerband ng vehicle your riding para makuha mo yun optimum power. Great advantage of driving a AT sa metro manila is you feel fresh pa rin once you step out of the car. Hindi nakakahiya sa business meeting mo na dadating ka na harassed yun itsura mo coz of the bumper to bumper traffic you been through.

Another good point is kung may driver ka naman then get a MT. Minsan feeling ko kung kasama ko driver ko sa car masuwerte siya kasi im letting him drive a AT vehicle.(sadista ba?) kaya ginagawa ko kung alam ko walang parking sa place im going i ask my driver to drive me there using the MT vehicles namin.

Although wala pa ako sa budget but gusto ko ulit magkaroon ng toy car and it will be definitely a manual puede rin naman AT with manual mode basta i know technologically advance siya kahit may kamahalan. Oh by the way the navara 3.0, 370z and GTR share the same tranny that is why mahal siya. A lot of RND done to perfect that tranny kaya mahal siya and the only difference is it doesnt comes with a launch control of the 3.0 nav but sa bilis ng shifting where in diyan nakilala yun tranny ng GTR is all the same. The same with the present AT and MT of local navara share the same tranny with the 350z.

I found it wierd lang for a small engine with a compact body vehicle to have a AT model like yun 1.3 sentra parang hindi match.

One disadvantage is AT is matakaw sa brake pads. Our tucson crdi evgt only has 18k sa odo pero ubos na yun pads and the same sa everest 4x2 limited AT at 25k ubos rin yun pads. Hindi ko lang sure bakit gsnon? Perhaps masyadong soft yun compuond nila unlike sa navara at 38k ok pa yun pads pero below 1/2 na siya ngayon. Plan to have it change sa 40k PMS para lang sure at hindi masira yun rotors. Sa everest tinamaan yun rotors kaya nagpalit kami ng rotors sa front.

In summary:
Depends sa vehicle bibilihin
Depends sa normal route taking
Depends sa technology of per vehicles's AT
Depends sa budget

In choosing between a MT or an AT

[hinDMaxsiado]

Although wala pa ako sa budget but gusto ko ulit magkaroon ng toy car and it will be definitely a manual puede rin naman AT with manual mode basta i know technologically advance siya kahit may kamahalan. Oh by the way the navara 3.0, 370z and GTR share the same tranny that is why mahal siya. A lot of RND done to perfect that tranny kaya mahal siya and the only difference is it doesnt comes with a launch control of the 3.0 nav but sa bilis ng shifting where in diyan nakilala yun tranny ng GTR is all the same. The same with the present AT and MT of local navara share the same tranny with the 350z.

HUWAAAW sir, matindi pala set-up ng transmission ng Navara! Matitibay din makina ng Nissan diesels.

Manghang-mangha din ako sir sa design at engineering ng Nissan GTR

One disadvantage is AT is matakaw sa brake pads. Our tucson crdi evgt only has 18k sa odo pero ubos na yun pads and the same sa everest 4x2 limited AT at 25k ubos rin yun pads. Hindi ko lang sure bakit gsnon? Perhaps masyadong soft yun compuond nila unlike sa navara at 38k ok pa yun pads pero below 1/2 na siya ngayon. Plan to have it change sa 40k PMS para lang sure at hindi masira yun rotors. Sa everest tinamaan yun rotors kaya nagpalit kami ng rotors sa front.

+2, gastado talaga ang mga AT's sir sa brake-pads/linings lalo na kung ang ruta sir ay mountainous roads.... freno ka ng freno na hindi katulad sa manual-tranny na you can employ a combination of acceptable-level of engine-braking and lesser engagements of the brakes....

Mas delikado pa AT kaysa manual-tranny when you suddenly lose engine power while going downhill.... Hindi mo din puedeng kadyotin to re-start the engine, di kagaya sa manual.

[GTi]

Sa A/T naman kahit na yung walang manual mode merong "O/D off, 2, L" modes for the mountainous roads para magkaroon ng engine braking ah. Kung ako naman, as much as possible hindi ko ginagamit ang engine braking sa manual na sasakyan. Di ko alam pero ayoko ang feeling na parang may humahadlang and I hate the jerk I feel when I release the accelerator while in gear. So whenever I let go of the accelerator, I shift to neutral and let it coast. Correct me if I'm wrong but this practice is supposed to be more fuel efficient, am I right?

[hinDMaxsiado]

Sa A/T naman kahit na yung walang manual mode merong "O/D off, 2, L" modes for the mountainous roads para magkaroon ng engine braking ah. Kung ako naman, as much as possible hindi ko ginagamit ang engine braking sa manual na sasakyan. Di ko alam pero ayoko ang feeling na parang may humahadlang and I hate the jerk I feel when I release the accelerator while in gear. So whenever I let go of the accelerator, I shift to neutral and let it coast. Correct me if I'm wrong but this practice is supposed to be more fuel efficient, am I right?

Oh my sir GTi, in that case, you have GOT to learn how to drive manual-trannies properly

Observe Baguio City drivers, the taxi FX-drivers in particular.... Much better yet, French and Spanish drivers living in Asturias or in the Pyrenees ---- i have learned a lot from them sir when i was stationed there, techniques you won't see from the typical Manila-city driver ;)

[MAST3R]

Engine break is really important, why?
1. Engine break is used to keep the load of the car centered during tight, high speed turn. This will prevent spins or under/oversteering..
2. Engine break reduces the stress on the brakes especially on downhill. Riding the brakes on downhill will cause overheating of the pads thus resulting to lose of braking power, pagminalas-malas pwede pa masunog/matunaw yung pads (i saw this on the track).

[zel.chikot]

Sa A/T naman kahit na yung walang manual mode merong "O/D off, 2, L" modes for the mountainous roads para magkaroon ng engine braking ah. Kung ako naman, as much as possible hindi ko ginagamit ang engine braking sa manual na sasakyan. Di ko alam pero ayoko ang feeling na parang may humahadlang and I hate the jerk I feel when I release the accelerator while in gear. So whenever I let go of the accelerator, I shift to neutral and let it coast. Correct me if I'm wrong but this practice is supposed to be more fuel efficient, am I right?

parang may humahadlang sir eto na mismo yun engine braking. parang may humahadlang without using your brakes. it's useful especially on long downhill drives.
I shift to neutral and let it coast sir icompare nyo po itong gawain na ito sa engine braking, hindi ba mas mababawasan natin yun paggamit ng brakes kung gagamit tayo ng engine braking downhill instead of coasting on neutral?

HTH

[GTi]

Oh my sir GTi, in that case, you have GOT to learn how to drive manual-trannies properly

Observe Baguio City drivers, the taxi FX-drivers in particular.... Much better yet, French and Spanish drivers living in Asturias or in the Pyrenees ---- i have learned a lot from them sir when i was stationed there, techniques you won't see from the typical Manila-city driver ;)

Haha~ I normally drive matics kasi, and the first car I drove is a matic. And so I tend to make the manual behave more like a matic car. Perhaps another reason is that I haven't had a chance to bring a manual car to the mountains before. So experience ko with manuals is in city driving lang talaga and I shift to neutral and let it coast when in long straight roads with little traffic and in cruising speed.

[ans_lim168]

Haha~ I normally drive matics kasi, and the first car I drove is a matic. And so I tend to make the manual behave more like a matic car. Perhaps another reason is that I haven't had a chance to bring a manual car to the mountains before. So experience ko with manuals is in city driving lang talaga and I shift to neutral and let it coast when in long straight roads with little traffic and in cruising speed.

You should try to drive a manual tranny car going uphill or downhill like in Baguio City. I drove 2x going to and from Baguio first was the L-300 versa van, second was last December using a 1.3 City Type Z manual. There are techniques that you could learn and engine braking is one of them. I much prefer using a manual over an automatic when going to Baguio City.

[cnxpr08]

hahahaha battle of transmissions?
is it a little bit funny? talagang walang mananalo dito dahil nagdedepende yan sa needs/wants ng driver,what the F!!!