BATTLE OF THE NEW SUV's - All New Everest vs 2016 Montero vs 2016 Fortuner

**yebo** · March 5th, 2016 09:36 PM

kala ko meron na 2016 fortuner on display sa casa, di ba sabi nila 3rs week of february? my wife and i went to toyota balintawak and toyota commonwealth wala sila. was going to test drive sana.

san meron test drive unit?

**niky** · March 6th, 2016 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by jut703

For diesels, Speedlab's whp is usually equal to or near the bhp rating. My Ranger 2.2' had 145 whp if I remember correctly, compared to 148 bhp.

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Turbo diesels are usually slightly under-rated.

Still, what matters is how the vehicle compares to competitors on the same dyno.

If I recall right, the Trailblazer at Speedlab is 170-175 whp... while the Mitsubishi 2.5 is around 165... so 160 is pretty darn good.

Of course, of the three, the Trailblazer is the fastest... it has a very broad powerband.

I've got one right now. Just V-Boxed it the other day... dirty launch, non-straight road, 9.3 seconds. I suppose with a straight drag, it'd be down to 9.0 or so.

New MU-X feels close to the Fortuner... bit softer in power delivery, but definitely in the 11-second range.

**skyflakes** · March 7th, 2016 08:47 AM

Basta ako di ko lang hanap power ng suv....comfortability and fuel economy din..😀

**HUMABOL KA** · March 8th, 2016 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by niky

Turbo diesels are usually slightly under-rated.

Still, what matters is how the vehicle compares to competitors on the same dyno.

If I recall right, the Trailblazer at Speedlab is 170-175 whp... while the Mitsubishi 2.5 is around 165... so 160 is pretty darn good.

Of course, of the three, the Trailblazer is the fastest... it has a very broad powerband.

I've got one right now. Just V-Boxed it the other day... dirty launch, non-straight road, 9.3 seconds. I suppose with a straight drag, it'd be down to 9.0 or so.

New MU-X feels close to the Fortuner... bit softer in power delivery, but definitely in the 11-second range.

How about the 0-100 kmh v-box record of the monty 2.5 4D56 vgt particularly the GLS-V 5 spd a/t?

**niky** · March 8th, 2016 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by HUMABOL KA

How about the 0-100 kmh v-box record of the monty 2.5 4D56 vgt particularly the GLS-V 5 spd a/t?

Last time I did testing on Monties, the ATs were in the high 10 to low 11 range. Faster than anything else at the time.

**HUMABOL KA** · March 8th, 2016 11:36 PM

Originally Posted by niky

Last time I did testing on Monties, the ATs were in the high 10 to low 11 range. Faster than anything else at the time.

Not bad, but i wonder if it can still hold its own against the much newer engine of toyota (2.8) and ford (3.2) in terms of acceleration?

**niky** · March 9th, 2016 03:38 AM

Originally Posted by HUMABOL KA

Not bad, but i wonder if it can still hold its own against the much newer engine of toyota (2.8) and ford (3.2) in terms of acceleration?

Butt-dyno says the Toyota is similar.

VBox says the Everest is slower, because of transmission response and the lack of high-end power. If I recall, it's around 12 seconds.

Up at highway speeds, the Ford 3.2 is very strong, and is likely more capable at over 100 km/h, but it has a very narrow powerband and the transmission typically holds on to gears way too long. (revving the engine over 3,500 rpm is completely useless. See here: http://www.topgear.com.ph/news/techn...anger-wildtrak )

Yeah, I know C! has measured a quicker 0-100 time for the Ranger 6AT. Don't know if they use rollout, though.

But point is moot, considering the 4D56T is going out of production, already. Quite eager to see how the new 2.4 stacks up.

**c_cube** · March 9th, 2016 09:18 PM

We are planning to acquire a 7 seater diesel fed SUV.

In your opinion, does these new SUVs/PPVs are better than the present Pajero and Patrol? Lets assume the price difference doesn't matter.

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**playplugg** · March 10th, 2016 01:51 AM

Originally Posted by niky

Butt-dyno says the Toyota is similar.

VBox says the Everest is slower, because of transmission response and the lack of high-end power. If I recall, it's around 12 seconds.

Up at highway speeds, the Ford 3.2 is very strong, and is likely more capable at over 100 km/h, but it has a very narrow powerband and the transmission typically holds on to gears way too long. (revving the engine over 3,500 rpm is completely useless. See here: http://www.topgear.com.ph/news/techn...anger-wildtrak )

Yeah, I know C! has measured a quicker 0-100 time for the Ranger 6AT. Don't know if they use rollout, though.

But point is moot, considering the 4D56T is going out of production, already. Quite eager to see how the new 2.4 stacks up.

Sir niky..

Majority units of SUV produced and compared, AT..

pero very rare ang MT variants comparison...

when it comes to MT variants? is there any minor or major difference(s)?

**EQAddict** · March 10th, 2016 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by aar0nix

So you mean Speedlab's dyno is inaccurate? Lol.. Not sure about that, but I trust Speedlab's dyno. I hope other brands would have their chip installed so we can figure out baseline dyno figures specifically using their dynamometer.

I actually tune all my cars in speedlabs .

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