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    #4101
    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    This is one of the most objective ownership observations I've read about these PPVs. Usually kasi sobrang binibida ng mga tao yung PPV nila akala mo wala nang mas gagandang kotse pa eh.

    I agree with the feedback on the engine, ride quality, and space. The Montero is the faster and softer car, the Fortuner is more matagtag but doesn't feel floaty and has less power but delivers it linearly so it doesn't feel inadequate.

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    PPVs are aspirational for diehard fanboys. Pag meron sila ng brand X, everything else is inferior. Sa FB car groups, pag may nag post ng PPV nila katabi ibang brand, bash party na sa comments. They have to reassure themselves they made the right purchase. You see a few sensible opinions but these are few and far between.

    Same with smartphones, kung may iphone or samsung si fanboy, yun ang pinaka maganda, automatic pangit na agad hawak ng katabi.

    Terming this phenomenon eludes me, something to do with fanboyism entitlement. Prevalent in our culture, and very toxic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakwatsero View Post
    PPVs are aspirational for diehard fanboys. Pag meron sila ng brand X, everything else is inferior. Sa FB car groups, pag may nag post ng PPV nila katabi ibang brand, bash party na sa comments. They have to reassure themselves they made the right purchase. You see a few sensible opinions but these are few and far between.

    Same with smartphones, kung may iphone or samsung si fanboy, yun ang pinaka maganda, automatic pangit na agad hawak ng katabi.

    Terming this phenomenon eludes me, something to do with fanboyism entitlement. Prevalent in our culture, and is very toxic.
    Dami talaga fanboys sa ‘Pinas. Everyone needs to reassure themselves that what they bought is better than the rest.

    There are still a few who have an objective view on the choices available in the market. As popular PPVs may be but I am not one who is among the wave of people who adore them. These lumbering trucks are just too big for a family of three.


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    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    Well.. maganda naman talaga ang stance ng mga ppv.. macho at parang di ka ibibitin kahit saan pwede ka makarating.. pero ma realize mo na yung almost 2 million pesos mo napunta lang sa wheel well.. kasi pag tiningnan mo mga ppv halos 50 % ng vehicle eh na punta sa pang ilalim.. lalaki ng suspension parts na wala na halos para sa occupant.. hehe.. kaya kahit boring minsan mas practical choice ang mga auv like innova
    The fortuner has more aftermarket suspension upgrades that's one upside in my opinion. The better VNT engine: yes please

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    #4104
    even the most objective review is biased, because the human behind it is... human.

    the most objective review always ends with the (written or un-written) "try it, folks, and see for yourselves".
    Last edited by dr. d; December 30th, 2019 at 06:05 PM.

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    #4106
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    even the most objective review is biased, because the human behind it is... human.

    the most objective review always ends with the (written or un-written) "try it, folks, and see for yourselves".
    basta ung may ari ng kotse willing sabihin ang negative tungkol sa kotse niya pwede na yun

    karamihan kasi fanboy

    kung magkwento tungkol sa kotse niya akala mo wala na gaganda pa

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    Dami talaga fanboys sa ‘Pinas. Everyone needs to reassure themselves that what they bought is better than the rest.

    There are still a few who have an objective view on the choices available in the market. As popular PPVs may be but I am not one who is among the wave of people who adore them. These lumbering trucks are just too big for a family of three.


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    Innova is the perfect compromise I think if one needs a people hauler. Great engine. Not too low, not too high. More interior space than PPVs. Third row is made for humans, not hobbits. More comfortable ride without too much wallowing. Enough clearance to wade through gutter-deep water.

    Thing is, if Toyota made the Innova a looker, people would think twice getting a 4x2 Fortuner. That's understandable, SUVs are higher-margin products.

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    #4108
    Quote Originally Posted by butiki123 View Post
    Hi sirs, need kopo ng advise nyo hindi kasi ako makapag decide which of these two Montero sport or Fortuner 2012-2014 model with 60k below mileage. this is my 1st car if ever. maraming salamat po
    If budget is not an issue with you,I would go for the fort. As it is,the market price for 2nd hand montero and fort has a difference of at least 100k for same year models with similar specifications.

    Both SUVs are really good looking and got good time tested engines and lots of aftermarket parts and accessories. If you are looking for an a/t,take the fort for peace of mind (SUA issues connected with monteros, although there was no conclusive findings).

    But if you are looking for a m/t SUV,then taking any of the two will be a great choice...it all boils down to your budget and aesthetic appreciation.

    Me,I decided to acquire a second hand 2013 m/t montero as I am more familiar with mitsus (where to take it for troubleshooting,PMS etc) and for budgetary reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reddik2017 View Post
    If budget is not an issue with you,I would go for the fort. As it is,the market price for 2nd hand montero and fort has a difference of at least 100k for same year models with similar specifications.

    Both SUVs are really good looking and got good time tested engines and lots of aftermarket parts and accessories. If you are looking for an a/t,take the fort for peace of mind (SUA issues connected with monteros, although there was no conclusive findings).

    But if you are looking for a m/t SUV,then taking any of the two will be a great choice...it all boils down to your budget and aesthetic appreciation.

    Me,I decided to acquire a second hand 2013 m/t montero as I am more familiar with mitsus (where to take it for troubleshooting,PMS etc) and for budgetary reasons.

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    I owned a Montero 2014 MT for 4 years and have ridden friends Fortuner as well.

    Fortuner is really matagtag. If you or your passengers are sensitive to headache, dizziness or bodyache, you should consider the Montero.

    In my opinion, Toyota Fortuner is better only in having a newer, slightly smoother engine.

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    ^exhibit A. [emoji854]

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