BATTLE OF THE MPVs - BRV vs. Ertiga vs. Xpander vs. Rush

[AllenR]

This is how much the Toyota Rush will cost

Quoting from the article:

"The base manual 1.5 E will set you back P948,000. For the automatic, you're looking at P988,000. Note that the E variants are only five-seaters. If you want the top-of-the-line seven-seater 1.5 G AT, then it'll cost you P1,070,000."

[StockEngine]

This is how much the Toyota Rush will cost

Quoting from the article:

"The base manual 1.5 E will set you back P948,000. For the automatic, you're looking at P988,000. Note that the E variants are only five-seaters. If you want the top-of-the-line seven-seater 1.5 G AT, then it'll cost you P1,070,000."

excellent price.. now we wait for fc numbers from ai and cg [emoji848][emoji848][emoji848]

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[AllenR]

excellent price.. now we wait for fc numbers from ai and cg [emoji848][emoji848][emoji848]

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What gets me thinking though, is that all the lower variants only seat 5. Only the top-end variant seats 7.

[Ry_Tower]

excellent price.. now we wait for fc numbers from ai and cg [emoji848][emoji848][emoji848]

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Papano naging excellent price eh price ng innova yan before. Hindi naman ganun kalaki rush. Overpriced imho yan. Halos P1M na din eh.

[AllenR]

^ 1M+ na yung 7-seater variant. Yung mga sub-1M, puro 5-seaters daw according to the article.

[chronicle]

Papano naging excellent price eh price ng innova yan before. Hindi naman ganun kalaki rush. Overpriced imho yan. Halos P1M na din eh.

Di na nila iintindihin ang pricing before. Nakalipas na yan. Wala nang magagawa para balikan ang price unless second hand ang kunin.

Epekto yan ng yearly inflation plus train.


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[Ry_Tower]

^ 1M+ na yung 7-seater variant. Yung mga sub-1M, puro 5-seaters daw according to the article.

Ang mahal considering glorified avanza lang yan imho lang naman.

[Egan101]

What gets me thinking though, is that all the lower variants only seat 5. Only the top-end variant seats 7.

Toyota wants the people to buy the top variant.


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[Ry_Tower]

Di na nila iintindihin ang pricing before. Nakalipas na yan. Wala nang magagawa para balikan ang price unless second hand ang kunin.

Epekto yan ng yearly inflation plus train.


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Ang sa akion lang naman eh mukhang hindi "excellent pricing yan". Yun lang naman. Kasi yun ang sabi.

[StockEngine]

Ang sa akion lang naman eh mukhang hindi "excellent pricing yan". Yun lang naman. Kasi yun ang sabi.

its my opinion on the totl. agree or disagree. if you think its overpriced look at the avanza [emoji28]

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[Ry_Tower]

its my opinion on the totl. agree or disagree. if you think its overpriced look at the avanza [emoji28]

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Well let's just agree to disagree.

[jut703]

Toyota wants the people to buy the top variant.


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Exactly. I think they did this to avoid cannibalization of the Avanza.

You want a sub-1M 7-seater? Get an Avanza.
You want a better 7-seater? Get a Rush 1.5G.

I actually think the 1.5E is only there to serve as a pricing anchor so that people will easily justify the 100k increase for the G.

"Oh look less than 100k lang dami nang dagdag features, may 2 extra seats pa."

The Xpander actually has better pricing since the Rush didn't match its mid-range offerings. But Toyota has far better brand equity and the TOTL isn't too far off the psychological 1M barrier.

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[jut703]

Di na nila iintindihin ang pricing before. Nakalipas na yan. Wala nang magagawa para balikan ang price unless second hand ang kunin.

Epekto yan ng yearly inflation plus train.


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That's true. No point crying over spilled milk. The Innova was a bargain when it was at that price range. Too bad it isn't anymore.

Here's what we have today:

Rush 1.5G - 1.070M
Xpander GLS Sport - 1.060M
BR-V 1.5S - 1.030M
Xpander GLS - 995k

The Toyota brand is strong enough for many people to justify the incremental 10k from the Xpander GLS Sport or the incremental 40k over the BR-V.

I would actually go as far to say that just because it's a Toyota, people will pay an extra 70k over the Xpander GLS. I say this because the Fortuner V costs almost 100k more than the Montero GLS Premium yet it still outsells it 3 to 1.

The spec sheet will sway buyers a bit, but the reality is that the average Filipino buyer isn't too particular about specs.

Kaya ba ng budget? Matipid ba? Maluwag ba? Komportable ba? Matibay ba?

These are the questions that most car buyers ask. Only a minority would drill down on power, specs, and safety features.

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[_Cathy_]

I can't imagine how it is with the Avanza or similar especially if it's at full capacity.Yung sedan ko nga nababagalan/nabibigatan na ko. Paano pa kaya yung 1.5 na mas malaki pa sa sedan tapos for 7 people?

[GTcervan]

Ang sa akion lang naman eh mukhang hindi "excellent pricing yan". Yun lang naman. Kasi yun ang sabi.

Kahit ano pa ang maging pricing ng toyota diyan eh, it will probably sell well. The power of the t-badge nga and the usual mentality of the people here in the country eh sobrang obvious at expected na yun kaya it shouldn't be surprising anymore.

Pero between these mpvs or so-called mini suvs, parang mas bagay ikumpara ang looks ng br-v at rush. They look somehow similar and exude a somewhat sporty appeal. Kaso galing from a daihatsu model, ang kengkoy naman sa loob ng rush. On the other hand, dun mas superior ang br-v.

[jut703]

I can't imagine how it is with the Avanza or similar especially if it's at full capacity.Yung sedan ko nga nababagalan/nabibigatan na ko. Paano pa kaya yung 1.5 na mas malaki pa sa sedan tapos for 7 people?

You really have to rev it to get it going when you have 7 on board. But even with a lowly APV and 8 people, it actually works quite well. Gearing is often optimized by having short first and second gears. Not as torquey as a diesel, but gets the job done.

These budget MPVs are actually pretty light, just the same weight as a sedan. The BRV S and Xpander GLS both just weigh 1,240 kg. That's 25kg lighter than an Altis 1.6G CVT.

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[StockEngine]

I can't imagine how it is with the Avanza or similar especially if it's at full capacity.Yung sedan ko nga nababagalan/nabibigatan na ko. Paano pa kaya yung 1.5 na mas malaki pa sa sedan tapos for 7 people?

I dont think you ever mashed the accelerators on those corollas. i drove both gens you have and both(cvt and 4at) can do 0-100 in around 10ish secs. really good in bundoks.

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[GTcervan]

In a way, parang triggered kasi ang toyota sa ginawang move ng honda with its lineup during the recent years. Diba last 2007, the time when the original avanza was released, the innova already exists as a fresh yet refined mpv. Dun na ata nagsimula mga small gas mpvs nun eh.

Nagkaroon ng mitsu grandis, suzuki apv, nissan livina at chevy orlando diba. May iba pa ata pero hindi nako familiar eh. What I'm sure though is that those mentioned mpvs didn't become prominent so much in the streets. Natira though ang apv. And then yan, nagsilabasan na mga current crop of mpvs ngayon, kahit may mga other alternatives like the small crossovers, minisuvs like the juke or ecosport. Pero mga 5 seater lang kc mga yan kaya ibang class parin mga yun.

Ngayon, diba naglabas ng mpv c honda which is the mobilio? To compete with the avanza and the likes. Naging successful naman siguro ito for them. Tapos naglabas pa sila ng br-v, which is slightly bigger but more attractive. Mas mahal nga lang kasi mas maporma ang dating.

Now, toyota will release the rush kasi it might compete with the similar br-v or new similar sized mpvs/minisuvs as well. This thing also looks somewhat similar to the outgoing rav4 and fortuner, with some specs from the avanza that include some interior touches as well, being a daihatsu at all. In short, parang br-v lang din. They will release this because siguro dahil nga sa ginawa ng honda. Two similar small 7-seater vehicles at the same time.

Syempre, with the train law implemented, the prices of the totl of these models are almost on par with the price of an entry-level of the larger innova, which has grown wider already.

Kaya it's a matter of choice and decision na lang kung san ba talaga gagamitin ang vehicle. Yun nga lang, nagmahal na din ang prices ng petrol at diesel eh.

[jut703]

In a way, parang triggered kasi ang toyota sa ginawang move ng honda with its lineup during the recent years. Diba last 2007, the time when the original avanza was released, the innova already exists as a fresh yet refined mpv. Dun na ata nagsimula mga small gas mpvs nun eh.

Nagkaroon ng mitsu grandis, suzuki apv, nissan livina at chevy orlando diba. May iba pa ata pero hindi nako familiar eh. What I'm sure though is that those mentioned mpvs didn't become prominent so much in the streets. Natira though ang apv. And then yan, nagsilabasan na mga current crop of mpvs ngayon, kahit may mga other alternatives like the small crossovers, minisuvs like the juke or ecosport. Pero mga 5 seater lang kc mga yan kaya ibang class parin mga yun.

Ngayon, diba naglabas ng mpv c honda which is the mobilio? To compete with the avanza and the likes. Naging successful naman siguro ito for them. Tapos naglabas pa sila ng br-v, which is slightly bigger but more attractive. Mas mahal nga lang kasi mas maporma ang dating.

Now, toyota will release the rush kasi it might compete with the similar br-v or new similar sized mpvs/minisuvs as well. This thing also looks somewhat similar to the outgoing rav4 and fortuner, with some specs from the avanza that include some interior touches as well, being a daihatsu at all. In short, parang br-v lang din. They will release this because siguro dahil nga sa ginawa ng honda. Two similar small 7-seater vehicles at the same time.

Syempre, with the train law implemented, the prices of the totl of these models are almost on par with the price of an entry-level of the larger innova, which has grown wider already.

Kaya it's a matter of choice and decision na lang kung san ba talaga gagamitin ang vehicle. Yun nga lang, nagmahal na din ang prices ng petrol at diesel eh.

The Rush/Terios has been a 7-seater since 2006. Way before the Mobilio.



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[StockEngine]

those indos fit at the 3rd row of the old rush. we growing pinoys wont fit lol..

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