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View Poll Results: which would be a better restoration project???

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  • '62 vw karmann ghia

    15 44.12%
  • '69 austin mini cooper

    19 55.88%
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  1. Join Date
    Apr 2006
    for me. both ok. kc i have both gamitin mo karman hedturner, gamitin mo mini hedturner din. pareho din mahal parts, pareho din 2 doors, pareho din may balor. my mini is australian version, my kg is type 34. by my experience for vw is for power, as well as mini is power also but its easy to manuever. para kang naka go kart. if ul notice vw are used for drag and minis are for slaloms and circuits.

  2. Join Date
    Dec 2004
    For me mas ok yung karmann. rare kasi dito sa atin. Yung mini mas marami

  3. Join Date
    Jul 2005
    so ano na napili? ano ba price ranges nung pinamimilian?

  4. Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Quote Originally Posted by swordsman View Post
    so ano na napili? ano ba price ranges nung pinamimilian?
    This may be too late but... what the heck!.. I'd go for the KG. True, the Mini's fun to drive. Its a road-hugger, responds well, more predictable. But the start of your forum had 2 questions - 1 - parts availability and 2 - drivability.
    The VW still is the best selling car in the world. The KG, however, was made from a VW beetle floor pan, same engine, same door mechanisms, same suspension parts of a beetle. Though the body was coach-built by Karmann coach builders (that's right, all KGs were coach built in a "barn" factory in deep inside Germany) for VW. It was VWs introduction to a new line of VWs since the beetle was selling like bananas, VW envisioned a VW model for the higher-end citizens of West Germany and the US - thus, the KG was born. In 1967, my dad bought his 1500bug for 9,997 pesos! (not bad but for a man whose paycheck was less than a grand, that was alot of money. The KG, at that time cost more than 23k! (comparable to an vios vs a camry). The KG, were only shipped to the Phils only upon placing an order became rare because of price, and a 3month waiting period.
    My answer to the original 2 questions are:
    1- parts availabilty - the VW beetle, being the most selling car in the world would have more parts available even in the future (compared to a mini) - and are available locally! Restoring a KG is quite difficult. Rubber parts are only available in the US and will cost about U$1k (from the counter - not including shipping costs)! Body parts are difficult too. you may find a few parts here (in swap meets during VWshows) - just make sure the KG you're buying isnt rusted up so you wont have to worry about that. However, after restoring a KG, you can drive it to the ground if you want. The engine is of a beetle - parts are available over the counter in araneta ave &/or buendia. compare that to a mini? imagine yourself in a stoplight driving on a sunday afternoon with your newly restored shinnig project car. You pop the clutch and your cable snaps! (what would you rather have? the KG or the mini?) you could've had a spare cable had you chosen a KG. The mini? you'd probably have to call a friend from the mini club to borrow a spare cable from him. or wait for the next shipment of his parts.
    2 - performance wise? KG vs mini? On a straight line the KG's bound to win on a good stock 1600 engine from a stoplight... (minis will just spin their front wheels while the KG's ideal drag car set-up would've took off already) add a 40mm 4barrel carb and you're talking about eating up honda civics with 30 more years of technology on them. (just hope there's another stoplight coming up before he hits 5th gear). The minis are very shifty cars. Ive driven minis before and I am amazed at how predictable it is. It feels light (though the power of the 1275cc may, in my terms be "short"), the power to weight ratio is like no other. Just hope that a few corners will come up ahead if you go against a VW.

    BTW - the minis were built to fit 4 adults in England! The average height of the english is 5'11! I doubt if you'll have trouble getting into either the mini or the KG.

  5. Join Date
    Apr 2007
    yup this might be late too but i still voted for the karmann ghia.

    i absolutely am smitten by the design and the curves on this baby. even the protruding cone-shaped front signal lights, if i remember it accurately. besides, i don't understand getting all giddy about restoring the ubiquitous (really) austin mini which has say about 200 or so of them out there in manila's city streets. do people really still gawk at these??? while karmanns on the other hand are a sight to behold every single time you witness one in motion. its a beauty, its vintage and its rare (really).

  6. Join Date
    May 2005
    i'd go for the karmann, they are super rare and exudes classic beauty. the best looking karmanns are those in the era 56-59, with a low headlight. it has a resemblance to the porsche 356. minis are good looking too but you see them all around. karmann's are very rare you don't spot too many of them for months, for years. i myself was smitten with a karmann. a junked karmann just caught my attention when i was in cavite and i just couldn't help but stop to talk to the owner if he's selling it. and so it was. that was in 1998 and we agreed at 80k. but then someone beat me to the deal and got it that same afternoon for 100k. so my hunt for a karmann began and it was only in 2006 when finally i got myself a karmann. since then, it's been a love affair with a karmann. finally i got the dream car that i longed for. if you happen to find a karmann for sale go grab it before someone else does. minis are everywhere and you can pass every opportunity to buy one because there are a lot more coming. but in the case of karmann's you shouldn't let every opportunity to have one just pass you by. even a junked and rusty karmann with incomplete parts is pricey. that's how desirable karmann's are. go for the karmann, you'll never be sorry if you get one, no matter what the condition is. there are shops that can restore them to the last detail. get the karmann, keep it, and if you have enough funds already, have it restored. parts are not a problem. you can order them from the internet and will be shipped right at your doorstep, but at a cost though.

  7. Join Date
    Aug 2007
    i choose briefcase #15, and that is mini cooper.

  8. Join Date
    Jul 2007
    austin mini for me! yeah baby!

  9. Join Date
    Nov 2002
    i loved both cars...
    that's why i have them in my 1/64 diecast collections...

    but i would go for the mr bean cooper baby...ooohhh yeahhh...
    saw several restored mini coopers at transhows and wow...ang lupet...

  10. Join Date
    Mar 2006
    For me, none of the above... Hehehe...

    OT na... Pero for me, any of these babies...

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