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    mga tsikot, Anu ba mas maganda na car engine LPG vs Diesel, saan ba mas makakatipid ng fuel,maintenance overall, may mga nakita akong sedan na may diesel at meron ding Lpg, let's say parehong stock sila........thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by stryke1 View Post
    mga tsikot, Anu ba mas maganda na car engine LPG vs Diesel, saan ba mas makakatipid ng fuel,maintenance overall, may mga nakita akong sedan na may diesel at meron ding Lpg, let's say parehong stock sila........thanks
    LPG consumption is still the same as your consumption as in gasoline or diesel. So if you consume 10 kpl in gas, you would also consume the same 10 kpl in LPG. the only thing you save is the cost.

    so let's say you fill up with 30 liters of LPG which costs 30 pesos per liter = 900 pesos.

    and you fill up with 30 liters of gasoline which costs at 58 pesos per liter = 1740 pesos.

    at the same distance, you saved 840 pesos.

    same as with diesels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1D4LV View Post
    LPG consumption is still the same as your consumption as in gasoline or diesel. So if you consume 10 kpl in gas, you would also consume the same 10 kpl in LPG. the only thing you save is the cost.

    so let's say you fill up with 30 liters of LPG which costs 30 pesos per liter = 900 pesos.

    and you fill up with 30 liters of gasoline which costs at 58 pesos per liter = 1740 pesos.

    at the same distance, you saved 840 pesos.

    same as with diesels.
    ok, maybe the diference is the cost value ng fuel, syempre dahil sa tax, pero how about the fuel consumption, lets example the Getz for gas version = 14km/L, for diesel CDRI = 17km/L, so meaning mas malayo ang mararating ng diesel with same amount of fuel like 35liters, (fulltank)....just my insight lang

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    Quote Originally Posted by stryke1 View Post
    ok, maybe the diference is the cost value ng fuel, syempre dahil sa tax, pero how about the fuel consumption, lets example the Getz for gas version = 14km/L, for diesel CDRI = 17km/L, so meaning mas malayo ang mararating ng diesel with same amount of fuel like 35liters, (fulltank)....just my insight lang

    Everything else equal, yes, definitely. Kita mo naman sa rate of fuel consumption. Plus, at a lower cost pa, dahil diesel nga na mas mura sa gas....

    6303:fetch:

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    Ang talo mo na lang sa diesel is yung car mismo mahal. Let's say sa Getz yung 1.1 na gas vs yung 1.5 na diesel laki ng price gap na mahirap ma-justify yung price gap unless you have high mileage like 15,000km a year or more... So hindi sya automatic diesel kaagad, depende yan sa mileage mo.

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    take in to cost ng gasoline when your ride is converted to lpg.. mga 500/ month(est) for starting purposes daw..

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    Quote Originally Posted by stryke1 View Post
    ok, maybe the diference is the cost value ng fuel, syempre dahil sa tax, pero how about the fuel consumption, lets example the Getz for gas version = 14km/L, for diesel CDRI = 17km/L, so meaning mas malayo ang mararating ng diesel with same amount of fuel like 35liters, (fulltank)....just my insight lang
    17km/l at 51 pesos/L na Diesel? 1785pesos to give you a range of 595kms bet. fill-ups

    14km/l at 58 pesos/L na Petrol? 2030pesos 490kms range

    or

    14km/l at 31 pesos/L na LPG? 1085pesos 490kms range

    Parang sa case ng Getz mas ok ang 1.1L LPG combo para makatipid. The higher initial cost ng CRDi variant seems to not save you that as much.

    that makes it

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    Kung bibili ka rin ng brand new gasoline-fed car, for LPG conversion, tama si GH. Make sure na bumili kayo nung casa-approved. For example, bili ka ng Vios, tapos converted sa Macro. Or Grand Livina tapos ipa-certify mo yung conversion. Tipid ka na talaga dyan!

    Ang Chery Cowin is also sold with LPG as stock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basti08 View Post
    17km/l at 51 pesos/L na Diesel? 1785pesos to give you a range of 595kms bet. fill-ups

    14km/l at 58 pesos/L na Petrol? 2030pesos 490kms range

    or

    14km/l at 31 pesos/L na LPG? 1085pesos 490kms range

    Parang sa case ng Getz mas ok ang 1.1L LPG combo para makatipid. The higher initial cost ng CRDi variant seems to not save you that as much.

    that makes it
    another way to look at it would be:

    diesel 17 kms / 51 pesos = 3 peso per km
    gas 14 kms / 58 pesos = 4.14 peso per km
    lpg 14 kms / 31 pesos = 2.21 peso per km

    With the CRDI variant being 100,000 pesos more expensive, it does not look attractive. While you may have to spend say 40,000 for an lpg kit, it should pay for itself within 20,000 or so kms.

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    teka teka, di nyu i-incorporate ng yung cost ng regular gasoline(whether unleaded, prenium,blaze/vpower), mga 300-500 pesos per month siguro for starting purposes daw..

    ang di ko magets yung lpg+diesel---mixture: 70%diesel+30%LPG

    i'm watching this thread also, basta related sa lpg running...di ko na kasi kaya ang 56+/L ng E10! and considering to get an carb-lpg kit muna

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    Quote Originally Posted by stryke1 View Post
    mga tsikot, Anu ba mas maganda na car engine LPG vs Diesel, saan ba mas makakatipid ng fuel,maintenance overall, may mga nakita akong sedan na may diesel at meron ding Lpg, let's say parehong stock sila........thanks
    Depends, if you were buying a new car... some cars get really amazing fuel mileage like the Hyundai Accent and good fuel mileage for the Ford Focus turbo diesel. Very economical to drive. That's even compared to auto-lpg's cheaper price (but not including the purchase price of the vehicle itself).

    But since most of us already have an existing gasoline fueled car which does good average fuel mileage, it just makes better sense to simply convert that car to using auto-LPG than buying a new car.

    Also, even if you were to buy a very economical car, the cost of buying the new car as compared to the fuel savings, it would take you more than five to ten years to recoup the cost of the vehicle with the savings in fuel cost.

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    +1 to boss GH.

    If you are shopping for a new car get the Accent or Focus TCDi. You can't beat the 25Km/L and 20Km/L respectively. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

    LPG is your only option if you have an existing gasoline fed car.

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    personally, since i'm not into engine modifications, i'd stick to a stock/out of the box system. so it's diesel for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coiter View Post
    personally, since i'm not into engine modifications, i'd stick to a stock/out of the box system. so it's diesel for me.
    You can also have a dealer installed auto-LPG kit but those tends to be a bit more expensive than having it done "outside". Toyota Phil deals with Macro for their "dealer" equipped LPG converted cars.

    You can also buy a Nissan Sentra and have it converted and still keep the warranty. Of course you have to check with the dealer because it would differ between branches. Nissan Balintawak and UN are the branches which retains the warranty when the car is LPG converted.

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    for real world/performance driving, even the small displacement diesels have ridiculous amounts of torque. diesel it is for me. also the factory warranty/OEM install is good for the people who want peace of mind....

    too bad diesel is even more expensive than premium fuel in the US :seeth:

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    maybe they refine more for better diesel quality....the tax a bit higher there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stryke1 View Post
    maybe they refine more for better diesel quality....the tax a bit higher there.


    mas lalo dito noh.. maliit man tignan, pero sa dami ng red tape lumolobo ang price.. --kada daanan ng papel mo sa gov't, para askasuhin, kailangan ka bigay mostly sa mga pipirma...

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    depende yan sa ROI. kung mababawi mo agad yun cost ng LPG kit from the difference in price ng fuel eh di mag LPG ka. kung di mo mababawi in 1 to 3 years,di na bale...tandaan ninyo...BOBO at mga G*GO sabihin na natin na GAHAMAN ang govt natin,kaya tataas din ang price ng LPG pag tumaas ang gas. negated pa din. imbes na bigyan ng magandang incentives for using alternative fuel,wala! our beloved nation is being ran by pigs...

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    sa ngayon nag taas na naman ang fuel cost ng 1.5 pesos, abot nga kaya ng 65 / liter, gas kaya ito o diesel, syempre taas na din ang LPG by next...

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    Quote Originally Posted by stryke1 View Post
    sa ngayon nag taas na naman ang fuel cost ng 1.5 pesos, abot nga kaya ng 65 / liter, gas kaya ito o diesel, syempre taas na din ang LPG by next...
    Even if auto-LPG prices goes up... the PRICE DIFFERENCE is still getting bigger.

    When 2008 started, the price difference between LPG & gasoline was around 40%. By April 2008, the difference was at 45%. Today, its just under 50%.

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