600k budget for used SUV/PPV

[rico_yan]

Hi everyone,

Please allow me to post my first thread. I'm in the market for a used SUV or PPV. My criteria are as follows:
a. Price range: 600k - 650k
b. Transmission: A/T
c. Drivetrain: 4x2 or 4x4 (no preference)
d. Fuel: Diesel

As far as my intended use:
City: 60%
Highway: 30%
Farm: 10%

So far, my search has resulted in the following:
1. 2012 Hyundai Santa Fe GLS 4x2
2. 2009 Mitsubishi Montero Sport GLS 4x4
3. 2011 Ford Everest 4x4
4. 2007 Toyota Fortuner 4x2

Hingi lang po ng advice about each model, specifically pros & cons.
Thank you in advance, your feedback is much appreciated!

[ninjababez]

Hi everyone,

Please allow me to post my first thread. I'm in the market for a used SUV or PPV. My criteria are as follows:
a. Price range: 600k - 650k
b. Transmission: A/T
c. Drivetrain: 4x2 or 4x4 (no preference)
d. Fuel: Diesel

As far as my intended use:
City: 60%
Highway: 30%
Farm: 10%

So far, my search has resulted in the following:
1. 2012 Hyundai Santa Fe GLS 4x2
2. 2009 Mitsubishi Montero Sport GLS 4x4
3. 2011 Ford Everest 4x4
4. 2007 Toyota Fortuner 4x2

Hingi lang po ng advice about each model, specifically pros & cons.
Thank you in advance, your feedback is much appreciated!

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[baludoy]

^ lead vocals ng true faith? nasa buy and sell auto business pala siya bro

[StockEngine]

if youre going to put some heavy items sa vehicle, remove the santa fe. its payload capacity isnt upto par with the ppvs. if not it is the quietest of the bunch.

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[Egan101]

^^^ I would go with the Santa Fe on that list. It is best handling one among the others.

[ninjababez]

^ lead vocals ng true faith? nasa buy and sell auto business pala siya bro

yes and no bro LOL
i think sa utol nya yun montero

[vinj]

Given the choices, assuming all are in good condition i would take a serious look at the Sta. Fe and MS options.

The Sta. Fe would be the most carlike and will be the fastest of the bunch. Parts are affordable if you purchase from and have your service done outside the Hyundai dealership. Expect niggles to be repaired here and there given the age; design may be ageing already though (this is my opinion).

The MS of course will be easy to mod and repair as well. If you ask me, if you plan to keep the car for a good five years, the MS may age better and still be easier to sell at the end of the day.

[rico_yan]

Thanks sirs Egan, Stock, Vinj, for your inputs. I had a chance to borrow and drive both Santa Fe 4x2 and MS 4x2 from friends. I would concur, SF has a car-like ride and stronger engine punch, compared to MS. Although, when it comes to dirt/rough road, I would give an edge to MS, it absorbs the bumps from the dirt road better than SF, in my opinion. On noise, vibration & harshness (NVH) department, I'm impressed with SF as well.

Re: payload, I don't foresee loading heavy items on a regular basis. Maybe having occupants on the 3rd row seats once in a while.

I didn't experience the SUA issue of MS, nor my owner friend. He also said that he has not experienced major mechanical issues with it, aside from the typical wear & tear items. On the other hand, my SF owner friend has had one major steering malfunction, albeit covered by manufacturer warranty. Other than that, only wear & tear items for SF as well.

I have yet to talk to Fort and Everest owners re: their driving and maintenance experiences. And I have always wondered about the resale value of used SF & Everest, I think they lose value faster than competing models.

[GTi]

Since you mentioned farm, I'd suggest the Montero. You may not need the 4x4 99% of the time, but you'll thank the heavens for it when the situation arises. Why'd I say this? My Santa Fe got stuck in a grassy backyard in the more provincial part of Bulacan (unpaved roads everywhere). Someone was doing the laundry nearby and the soil was wet where I parked. And it was only the spot where the front tires were on that was wet. The spot occupied by the rear tires were rock-dry. Kakahiya. [emoji23] It must be noted though that I was using highway tires.

If mostly city driving though, I'd suggest the Santa Fe. Lots of power, comfortable, decent handling like everybody says. Engine and transmission is still the same as the outgoing Santa Fe (new one only has new transmission but same engine) and the current Sorento and Carnival. As long as the suspension is in good shape, no problem carrying 8 passengers or more. Just take note that the Santa Fe eats front tires for breakfast due to the huge torque, especially true for the 4x2.



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[StockEngine]

Since you mentioned farm, I'd suggest the Montero. You may not need the 4x4 99% of the time, but you'll thank the heavens for it when the situation arises. Why'd I say this? My Santa Fe got stuck in a grassy backyard in the more provincial part of Bulacan (unpaved roads everywhere). Someone was doing the laundry nearby and the soil was wet where I parked. And it was only the spot where the front tires were on that was wet. The spot occupied by the rear tires were rock-dry. Kakahiya. [emoji23] It must be noted though that I was using highway tires.

If mostly city driving though, I'd suggest the Santa Fe. Lots of power, comfortable, decent handling like everybody says. Engine and transmission is still the same as the outgoing Santa Fe (new one only has new transmission but same engine) and the current Sorento and Carnival. As long as the suspension is in good shape, no problem carrying 8 passengers or more. Just take note that the Santa Fe eats front tires for breakfast due to the huge torque, especially true for the 4x2.



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and the montys softer suspension is better than the old forts..

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[GTi]

and the montys softer suspension is better than the old forts..

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TS also mentioned that the old Fort in question is a 4x2. Weak, non-intercooled engine, trademark 1st gen tagtag, and poor off road capabilities.

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[rico_yan]

and the montys softer suspension is better than the old forts..

Sir Stock, what if i upgrade the factory shocks to aftermarket brand with softer setting? I don't know if they're worth it though

TS also mentioned that the old Fort in question is a 4x2. Weak, non-intercooled engine, trademark 1st gen tagtag, and poor off road capabilities.

Sir GTi, what year or variant would be desirable for Fort?

My Santa Fe got stuck in a grassy backyard in the more provincial part of Bulacan (unpaved roads everywhere). Someone was doing the laundry nearby and the soil was wet where I parked. And it was only the spot where the front tires were on that was wet. The spot occupied by the rear tires were rock-dry. Kakahiya. [emoji23] It must be noted though that I was using highway tires.

I was wondering if the tires were All-Terrain / All-Weather, would it be enough to get out of a sticky situation?

[glenn_duke]

At 650K you can already buy a 2010 MS 4x4 with a reliable 3.2 engine.
Hid lights, headlight washer, tpms, better suspension than the eve and fort in your list.
And drives fast.

[rico_yan]

At 650K you can already buy a 2010 MS 4x4 with a reliable 3.2 engine.
Hid lights, headlight washer, tpms, better suspension than the eve and fort in your list.
And drives fast.

Sir glenn, I'm not too familiar with the specs of MS, does all MS 4x4 come with 3.2 engine? I've seen GTV emblems on the front grill, which I think is the TOTL variant.

[glenn_duke]

Sir glenn, I'm not too familiar with the specs of MS, does all MS 4x4 come with 3.2 engine? I've seen GTV emblems on the front grill, which I think is the TOTL variant.

The 2011 to 2015 4x4 MS with the GTV emblem is fitted with a 2.5 vgt engine, higher hp and torque than the 3.2. it also has stability control and 2din headunit. But the GTV variant MS is still above 800k, way above your budget.

4x4 MS with 3.2 engines are the 2009 and 2010 models.
No stability controls and 1din headunit.

[GTi]

Sir Stock, what if i upgrade the factory shocks to aftermarket brand with softer setting? I don't know if they're worth it though




Sir GTi, what year or variant would be desirable for Fort?



I was wondering if the tires were All-Terrain / All-Weather, would it be enough to get out of a sticky situation?

IMHO the 1st gen Fort would be best enjoyed in 3.0 or 2.5VNT form (I think 2012 onwards or Gen 1.3). If I had no choice but to get the 1st gen 2.5 Fort though, first thing I'd do is to bring it to Speedlab and throw in a FMIC and their Unichip and D4D drivers.

As for AT tires... It would most definitely help to have them in a sticky situation. As to whether they would be sufficient depends on how sticky the situation is. That time I got unstuck by putting big rocks and dried coconut leaves (at least I think it was coconut) against the stuck tires and having two of my companions push down the front end. We all had a good laugh out of it. [emoji28]

Bottomline for me, Santa Fe if 4x2 and whichever ladder frame SUV depending on your preferences and budget if 4x4.

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[rico_yan]

Thank you sirs GTi and glenn, I'll note of your valuable inputs.

How about Eve? Anyone with good or bad experience? Please let me know what to look out for.

[rico_yan]

Hello mga boss, just want to give an update. After an exhaustive search, I finally bought a used 2012 Hyundai Santa Fe 4x2 CRDI with 70kms on the odo for exactly Php600k. I want to thank you for all your inputs!

So far, I'm very happy sa ride and fc, not to mention na pasok sa budget ko. Meron ba kayo isa-suggest na maintenance schedule and other things to look out for. Also, according to my research these 3 are reputable sources of parts: Fronte, Seiring, and Goodgear. Any opinion to the contrary or other suggestions? Thanks in advance mga boss.

[GTi]

Hello mga boss, just want to give an update. After an exhaustive search, I finally bought a used 2012 Hyundai Santa Fe 4x2 CRDI with 70kms on the odo for exactly Php600k. I want to thank you for all your inputs!

So far, I'm very happy sa ride and fc, not to mention na pasok sa budget ko. Meron ba kayo isa-suggest na maintenance schedule and other things to look out for. Also, according to my research these 3 are reputable sources of parts: Fronte, Seiring, and Goodgear. Any opinion to the contrary or other suggestions? Thanks in advance mga boss.

Congrats on the buy! I'd say 600k is a pretty good price for the car. Imagine that the latest model is apparently selling for over 2.3M for the 4x2 variant, and still has the same engine.

There's not much to look out for with regards to maintenance. Just follow what the manual says. Pretty much all of the parts that needed replacing were due to wear and tear. At similar mileage as yours, I've had to replace 2 engine supports and a little later on, a leaking power steering hose. Try fully loading the car, and see if the rear end hunkers down, and bottoms out easily over humps. If it does, then you may have to replace the bump stops. I also took the opportunity to replace all of my shocks. Also, due to being front wheel drive, and having prodigious amounts of torque, the front tires tend to wear out very quickly especially if you have a lead foot.

What FC are you getting, and in what route?

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[rico_yan]

Sir GTi, between 7-9 km/l if city driving (Manila, Caloocan, Makati), then 13-14 km/l if highway (NLEX). Napansin ko nga ang torque nya, and noticeable ang front tire wear when I got the vehicle from the previous owner. I'm planning to replace the tires soon and I want to keep the factory specs, any suggestion for a reasonably priced tire brand?