4x2 MT Pickups below 1.1M: Hilux E vs. NP300 EL Caliber

[mousemouse]

Whats your take on these models guys? I wanted to get the Hilux initially but the E variant had steel rims and no rear bumper * 1.033M. The Nissan was a lot more dressed up * 1.075M and had a stronger engine. I also felt that I could get a better deal at the Nissan dealership compared to the Toyota. The Hilux G variant was nice but the price difference was too much (more than 1.2M already).

Would the Nissan be more expensive in the long run? Would parts be harder to find?
For the Hilux, lets say I go with the E variant, is it possible to change to stock alloy rims and add in a read bumper and still remain below 1.1M?

[lowslowbenz]

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I think the Nissan has a coil spring rear. Not that robust in carrying heavy cargo.

With the hi-lux you can easily buy original Toyota alloy wheels outside the dealer (madami sa OLX), then choose the tyre combination that you want to go with it. ARB and Iron Man sell aftermarket steel bumpers, which in my opinion is more durable than the stock bumpers.

Toyota is a bit stingy on options though (re: creature comforts).

[vinj]

Nissans are quite reliable per my experience. Ride will be more comfortable too given the rear coils.

For the Hilux, you'll spend around 35K for a slightly used set of OEM G rims and tyres, maybe another 8K for a stepboard and 9K for a OEM rear bumper (you'll have to source these second hand; you can check the shops that do off-road set-ups for customers who want to unload their stock parts).

[mousemouse]

*lowlowbenz & vinj- thanks for the quick replies. hmm so it seems that i can get the hilux with alloy tires, step boards and a rear bumper for around the same price as the navarra. Any feedback on the the engine? Will the 2.4L be okay or will it be underpowered? I feel that the Toyota is the more practical choice but the Nissan also looks really good! Any other feedback on pickups from other brands below 1.1M?

Last thing- Any idea why Toyota put a bigger engine on the new Innova? I was able to drive one last week and the 2.8L engine felt a lot more powerful than the previous one.

[lowslowbenz]

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Engine power will be adequate on either of the brands that you will choose.

I have a 2016 Strada GL 4x4 MT. It came with the previous 4D56 engine powering the older Montero Sport. Does the job if you ask me.

The price is 1.125M, a wee bit off your budget.

BUT .....

You get 4x4 advantage.

[vinj]

My daily drive now is a 2.4E Hilux. No issues on power and efficiency is bet 9.5-10.5 in city traffic. 8.5 in really bad city traffic. 12-14 highway (depending on your right foot). The vehicle is long though so best to have a rear sensor installed too.

As for the Innova, i'm not sure why but having the 2.8L variant is indeed sweet in my books.

Best to test drive both Navara and Hilux to see what suits your needs better. I'm guessing the Navara will have an edge in overall comfort while the Hilux is more utilitarian if that's your requirement.

[StockEngine]

My daily drive now is a 2.4E Hilux. No issues on power and efficiency is bet 9.5-10.5 in city traffic. 8.5 in really bad city traffic. 12-14 highway (depending on your right foot). The vehicle is long though so best to have a rear sensor installed too.

As for the Innova, i'm not sure why but having the 2.8L variant is indeed sweet in my books.

Best to test drive both Navara and Hilux to see what suits your needs better. I'm guessing the Navara will have an edge in overall comfort while the Hilux is more utilitarian if that's your requirement.

Meron din rev matching tranny ang e variant diba? Based on reviews.. this is probably the best mt.

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[vinj]

Meron din rev matching tranny ang e variant diba? Based on reviews.. this is probably the best mt.

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The i-m/t function is on the 4x4 model (not sure about the G variant). It has the sport/eco modes though, which adjusts throttle sensitivity.

[mousemouse]

Hehe I'm not too keen on getting a 4x4 since the vehicle will be in the city 99% of the time I'm sure. For the Strada, is the GLX a completely different vehicle from the GL? or did they just add some accessories? Price gap seems to be huge between the two

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Engine power will be adequate on either of the brands that you will choose.

I have a 2016 Strada GL 4x4 MT. It came with the previous 4D56 engine powering the older Montero Sport. Does the job if you ask me.

The price is 1.125M, a wee bit off your budget.

BUT .....

You get 4x4 advantage.

[mousemouse]

thanks for the feedback vinj! Any chance you have photos of your Hilux? Did you replace the stock rims and add the bumper and stepper?

My daily drive now is a 2.4E Hilux. No issues on power and efficiency is bet 9.5-10.5 in city traffic. 8.5 in really bad city traffic. 12-14 highway (depending on your right foot). The vehicle is long though so best to have a rear sensor installed too.

As for the Innova, i'm not sure why but having the 2.8L variant is indeed sweet in my books.

Best to test drive both Navara and Hilux to see what suits your needs better. I'm guessing the Navara will have an edge in overall comfort while the Hilux is more utilitarian if that's your requirement.

[lowslowbenz]

Hehe I'm not too keen on getting a 4x4 since the vehicle will be in the city 99% of the time I'm sure. For the Strada, is the GLX a completely different vehicle from the GL? or did they just add some accessories? Price gap seems to be huge between the two

Yes the price difference is a big leap. I think it is safe to assume that comparing the 4x2 GL over the 4x2 GLX, the difference would be all cosmetic, you know, better sound system, foglights, chrome accents ... etc.

IIRC, the 4x2 GLX at 983k is the cheapest "decent" pickup out there.

[vinj]

thanks for the feedback vinj! Any chance you have photos of your Hilux? Did you replace the stock rims and add the bumper and stepper?

I added the rims, an OEM rear bumper, and a step board.

[mousemouse]

thanks lowslowbenz! i need to visit a dealer to look at the strada too. The sub 1m Hilux I saw in the dealer was lower and looked like it was a company fleet car for hauling not so heavy stuff.

Yes the price difference is a big leap. I think it is safe to assume that comparing the 4x2 GL over the 4x2 GLX, the difference would be all cosmetic, you know, better sound system, foglights, chrome accents ... etc.

IIRC, the 4x2 GLX at 983k is the cheapest "decent" pickup out there.

[mousemouse]

thanks for the photo vinj! your hilux looks nice and clean. So now I guess the pickup trucks I'm looking are all priced competitively. At almost 1.1M, I can get the Hilux, NP300 and Strada 4x2 manual versions with basic features. I will take time to look at these and decide.

I added the rims, an OEM rear bumper, and a step board.

[vinj]

thanks for the photo vinj! your hilux looks nice and clean. So now I guess the pickup trucks I'm looking are all priced competitively. At almost 1.1M, I can get the Hilux, NP300 and Strada 4x2 manual versions with basic features. I will take time to look at these and decide.

Test drive, and compare the estimated periodic maintenance fees for each. That will be a big help in making your decision.

I used a Camry for my trip north last weekend and when i got into the Hilux on Monday morning, the ride just bit me hard.

[Jakespeed800]

Test drive, and compare the estimated periodic maintenance fees for each. That will be a big help in making your decision.

I used a Camry for my trip north last weekend and when i got into the Hilux on Monday morning, the ride just bit me hard.

Vinj, your hilux looks like the MT G or the 2.8 4x4 and i love it! May i know how much did you spend for the upgrade? Thanks


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[jut703]

Vinj, your hilux looks like the MT G or the 2.8 4x4 and i love it! May i know how much did you spend for the upgrade? Thanks


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Wait til you see it now with the fender flares. 😍

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[vinj]

Vinj, your hilux looks like the MT G or the 2.8 4x4 and i love it! May i know how much did you spend for the upgrade? Thanks


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For the rims if you really look around you can get a good set for 50K more or less. I spent around 48K on mine (new rims and new Achilles tyres, and i traded in the stock steelies). You can find new Hilux G rims and tyres for around 35K. If you want the Aussie look, the OEM 18s from a Fortuner together with tyres will set one back around 45K.

OEM bumpers cost around 8K and an OEM stepboard is around 6K IIRC.

Wait til you see it now with the fender flares. 😍

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Hehehehe...

With the flares though, the temptation to go for a 2-inch lift and use 275/55R20 tyres increases as well.

[Jakespeed800]

QUOTE from vinj For the rims if you really look around you can get a good set for 50K more or less. I spent around 48K on mine (new rims and new Achilles tyres, and i traded in the stock steelies). You can find new Hilux G rims and tyres for around 35K. If you want the Aussie look, the OEM 18s from a Fortuner together with tyres will set one back around 45K.

OEM bumpers cost around 8K and an OEM stepboard is around 6K IIRC.


thanks for sharing. that was a very wise decision when you chose the E over the G and that is from the wisdom of a car enthusiast! very seldom can you see that nowadays.


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[vinj]

thanks for sharing. that was a very wise decision when you chose the E over the G and that is from the wisdom of a car enthusiast! very seldom can you see that nowadays.

It really depends on the buyer. In my case, and with some guys i know as well, I get along fine with the basics of a decent interior (need not be leather... but driving position is a factor i consider), standard power amenities, a decent radio, and the usual safety features of ABS and airbags. This is why my usual new car purchases are the the mid level variants since the other add-ons i like are usually things that I prefer to add on my own. If i wanted an A/T, i'd have to still get the G variant though.