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    Quote Originally Posted by birador View Post
    ok din naman ang 4hf1 kaso npakamahal ng parts nya and yung iba disposable pa like yung cyl. head nya kpag na overheat ka at nabingkong palit na sya kaagad at di na pede ipa machineshop. tungkol naman sa transmission ng 4be1 hindi sya madali masira infact napakatibay nga nya bka ang sinasabi mo ay transmission ng bc2 yun ang madali bumigay kc maliliit ang mga gear nya sa loob unlike sa eagle na malalaki. ok din ang 7/39 na ratio pero kng mabigat ang mga pangarga mo at gusto medyo mabilis go for the 8/41 or 8/43 combination. kung eagle makina mo ito ang tamang ratio 7 transmission and 8/41 sa differential, mas ok kng toyota dyna ang differential ay naku napakatulin ikaw ang susuko lalo na sa slex wew hataw talaga
    Ano ang ratio ng dyna differential na binanggit mo para malaman ng iba?

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    Kung 4bxx series might as well get a 4bc2. Mahina talaga yung camel type? ba yun na 4be1. Kung 4hxx series 4hg1. My 4hg1 elf gets 8.8Km/L mixed driving. Not bad for a 6 wheel 14 footer.

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    Yung dropside truck ko na Elf NKR self loader 4BE1 makina till now malakas pa din never been overhauled and still using it in my business sulit na sulit na then meron ako ngayon medyo modelo Nissan Atlas 4JG2 makina im still crossing my fingers. Anyone knows the performance of 4JG2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow3616931 View Post
    Yung dropside truck ko na Elf NKR self loader 4BE1 makina till now malakas pa din never been overhauled and still using it in my business sulit na sulit na then meron ako ngayon medyo modelo Nissan Atlas 4JG2 makina im still crossing my fingers. Anyone knows the performance of 4JG2?
    magaling ka siguro sir mag-alaga ng rig. ok yang 4jg2, reliable talaga. Kahit sa mga foreign reviews ok siya sa mga nababasa ko. Matipid pa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    magaling ka siguro sir mag-alaga ng rig. ok yang 4jg2, reliable talaga. Kahit sa mga foreign reviews ok siya sa mga nababasa ko. Matipid pa.
    Thanks for your response sir...

    Medyo maalaga naman ako lalo na sa langis kaya dapat lagi ok odometer(basis of pms) na hinahayaan ng iba pag nasira at hanggat maaari di nagpapalitan ang driver kanya kanya sila dina-drive and no overloading

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow3616931 View Post
    Thanks for your response sir...

    Medyo maalaga naman ako lalo na sa langis kaya dapat lagi ok odometer(basis of pms) na hinahayaan ng iba pag nasira at hanggat maaari di nagpapalitan ang driver kanya kanya sila dina-drive and no overloading
    Pwede bang malaman ang PMS routine sa trucks mo kasama na rin siyempre brand ng langis na ginagamit for the sake of trucks & jeepney owners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dagol View Post
    Pwede bang malaman ang PMS routine sa trucks mo kasama na rin siyempre brand ng langis na ginagamit for the sake of trucks & jeepney owners.
    Ganon din naman every 5k kms, any brand of oil lang gamit ko basta palit lang every 5k wag dapat sasablay, then lahat ng repair naka log book, at huwag i-overload makina at wag pabayaan cooling system kasi once na nag overheat na makina humihina na then later on loss compression na...

    and of course nasa driver din ang buhay ng truck pag pabaya driver mo di rin tatagal truck mo. Ang driver dapat feel nya strength ng engine pag di kaya wag pilitin.

    Based on my personal experience lang to ha

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    Mga Sir baka meron sa inyong may Work shop manual ng 4BE1 at 4DR5 baka pwede pong pashare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow3616931 View Post
    Yung dropside truck ko na Elf NKR self loader 4BE1 makina till now malakas pa din never been overhauled and still using it in my business sulit na sulit na then meron ako ngayon medyo modelo Nissan Atlas 4JG2 makina im still crossing my fingers. Anyone knows the performance of 4JG2?
    4JG2 engines are great matipid sya sa crudo. 2.8l ang displacement ng engine.
    You should also consider your load before choosing which engine to get. If you are loading heavy on your unit it is not advisable to get a 4JG2 engine/unit. It will put too much stress on the engine and lalakas ang fuel consumption mo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnate View Post
    4JG2 engines are great matipid sya sa crudo. 2.8l ang displacement ng engine.
    You should also consider your load before choosing which engine to get. If you are loading heavy on your unit it is not advisable to get a 4JG2 engine/unit. It will put too much stress on the engine and lalakas ang fuel consumption mo.
    I think the engine you are talking about is the 4JB1 which has 2.8L displacement. The 4JG2 is a 3.1L engine with pretty much similar engine components and design as the 4JB1. Its a very durable engine which is also used in the Trooper and should not be short on power as well.
    Last edited by GTi; March 30th, 2011 at 12:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnate View Post
    4JG2 engines are great matipid sya sa crudo. 2.8l ang displacement ng engine.
    You should also consider your load before choosing which engine to get. If you are loading heavy on your unit it is not advisable to get a 4JG2 engine/unit. It will put too much stress on the engine and lalakas ang fuel consumption mo.
    Thanks for your advice sir... I was really choosing between 4HF1 and 4JG2 and I chose the latter since I only need light truck (4 wheeler) to haul light materials... well I guess 2.8li engine is enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dagol View Post
    Ano ang ratio ng dyna differential na binanggit mo para malaman ng iba?
    * sir dagol kung dyna na modelo yun bang long hub na katulad sa nkr. ang tawag d2 sa amin sa quezon ay isuzung bakla kasi pra talaga syang isuzu pero toyota dyna. Yung jeep namin ay eagle makina w/ no. 7 transmission and a 8/43 dyna differential wew sobra tulin. problem is madalang na yata yung ganun differential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by birador View Post
    * sir dagol kung dyna na modelo yun bang long hub na katulad sa nkr. ang tawag d2 sa amin sa quezon ay isuzung bakla kasi pra talaga syang isuzu pero toyota dyna. Yung jeep namin ay eagle makina w/ no. 7 transmission and a 8/43 dyna differential wew sobra tulin. problem is madalang na yata yung ganun differential.
    hehe matulin na nga yan. Alaga lang sana talaga para hindi madali ng costly OH. 4d56 ko dati, piston ring lang, belts and tensioner at oH gasket, ok na. Mahirap kais tipirin sasakyan pagdating sa makina, sisingilin ka din sa huli, sakit pa sa ulo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    hehe matulin na nga yan. Alaga lang sana talaga para hindi madali ng costly OH. 4d56 ko dati, piston ring lang, belts and tensioner at oH gasket, ok na. Mahirap kais tipirin sasakyan pagdating sa makina, sisingilin ka din sa huli, sakit pa sa ulo.
    *sir ry tower tama ka, ang sasakyan naman kapag minahal mo at hindi tinitipid sa maintenance in return bibigyan ka naman nya ng longer service

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    Quote Originally Posted by birador View Post
    * sir dagol kung dyna na modelo yun bang long hub na katulad sa nkr. ang tawag d2 sa amin sa quezon ay isuzung bakla kasi pra talaga syang isuzu pero toyota dyna. Yung jeep namin ay eagle makina w/ no. 7 transmission and a 8/43 dyna differential wew sobra tulin. problem is madalang na yata yung ganun differential.
    May 8/43 din ang isuzu kaya walang problema sa mga gustong sumubok ng differential ratio na yan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by birador View Post
    * sir dagol kung dyna na modelo yun bang long hub na katulad sa nkr. ang tawag d2 sa amin sa quezon ay isuzung bakla kasi pra talaga syang isuzu pero toyota dyna. Yung jeep namin ay eagle makina w/ no. 7 transmission and a 8/43 dyna differential wew sobra tulin. problem is madalang na yata yung ganun differential.
    anong transmision na no.7. sa canter or isuzu. na makina ba yan or anong model ng makina?

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    also torn between this 2. mas ok ang maintenance ng 4HF1 kaysa 4BE1? how about fuel consumption for a 14 feet aluminum van? ano mas babagay sa dalawa? thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by dct View Post
    also torn between this 2. mas ok ang maintenance ng 4HF1 kaysa 4BE1? how about fuel consumption for a 14 feet aluminum van? ano mas babagay sa dalawa? thanks
    Problematic na makina 4BE1 sir, iba na lang.

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    4BE1 kasi yung amin dati. tumagal din pero problema na ngayon. hehe. so mas ok ang 4HF1 sir?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dct View Post
    4BE1 kasi yung amin dati. tumagal din pero problema na ngayon. hehe. so mas ok ang 4HF1 sir?
    Oo or even yung 4BC2 mas matibay pa kahit mas luma eh.

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