2020 Montero Sport vs 2015 Montero Sport

**dr. d** · June 20th, 2020 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by DAD525

Dito ko yata nabasa na pag happy wife, happy life...

Tapos pag humirit ka later on ng mga accessories.. she evn suggest which one first and next..

Pero pag hindi happy si wifey.. pag humirit ka ng accessories.. tapos sasabihin nya gastos na namann..

pag hindi siya happy,
kahit flat tire, kasalanan mo yan.

**sean-archer** · June 20th, 2020 08:13 PM

Sxy ang girl na may alam technically about sa kotse. Kaya for me it's perfectly ok if a girl has something to say about it when it comes to acquiring one.

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**Lakwatsero** · June 20th, 2020 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by ronki

Not really sure what's the diff cost in maintenance of a diesel vs gas.

I suppose it's just the liters of oil used, right?
And diesel has no spark plugs (but that's just around 500 pesos to replace)

I think I posted a basic comp on a different thread but it went something like this.

Diesel Innova 9km/l at P35 per liter. 100k km will use 11,111 liters of diesel. At P35, that's roughly 389k in fuel cost.

Gas Innova 7km/l at P45 per liter. 100k km will use 14,285 liters. At P45/L, P643k in fuel cost.

That's savings of 254k in fuel cost. Increase in fuel price will just widen the difference in favor of diesel.

There's other benefits getting a diesel, more torque means effortless driving even at full load. And if you decide to sell it later on, resale is much higher and it's more in demand in the 2nd hand market.

Negative is the NVH and more parts than can break. Turbo, intercooler, injectors, etc. Oil is just a few liters extra per service. Filters and consumables are dirt cheap for both.

Gas is okay if you're not gonna run a 100k in the time you plan to keep it. But beware, the 2.0 is gutless when loaded.

This debate has been going on since 2005 ever since the first gen Innovas and Fortuners. By now, I've seen d4ds run 200k to 300k without much issues.

**ronki** · June 20th, 2020 11:21 PM

Originally Posted by Lakwatsero

I think I posted a basic comp on a different thread but it went something like this.

Diesel Innova 9km/l at P35 per liter. 100k km will use 11,111 liters of diesel. At P35, that's roughly 389k in fuel cost.

Gas Innova 7km/l at P45 per liter. 100k km will use 14,285 liters. At P45/L, P643k in fuel cost.

That's savings of 254k in fuel cost. Increase in fuel price will just widen the difference in favor of diesel.

There's other benefits getting a diesel, more torque means effortless driving even at full load. And if you decide to sell it later on, resale is much higher and it's more in demand in the 2nd hand market.

Negative is the NVH and more parts than can break. Turbo, intercooler, injectors, etc. Oil is just a few liters extra per service. Filters and consumables are dirt cheap for both.

Gas is okay if you're not gonna run a 100k in the time you plan to keep it. But beware, the 2.0 is gutless when loaded.

This debate has been going on since 2005 ever since the first gen Innovas and Fortuners. By now, I've seen d4ds run 200k to 300k without much issues.

I can attest to the D4Ds durability. We have Gen 1 Innova's as our service vehicle clocking around 300k with heavy load (used to carry equipment aside from personnel).

Commander asked for the Innova E as she watched RIT's review in youtube, unless I can defend myself and my other choices (Montero, Terra, lol)

**jut703** · June 20th, 2020 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by ronki

I can attest to the D4Ds durability. We have Gen 1 Innova's as our service vehicle clocking around 300k with heavy load (used to carry equipment aside from personnel).

Commander asked for the Innova E as she watched RIT's review in youtube, unless I can defend myself and my other choices (Montero, Terra, lol)

Sabi pa nila dati di na daw matitibay yang mga new gen of diesels kasi daw bibigay ang turbo after 100k km..pero super dami pa ring gen 1 IMV platform na tumatakbo until today.

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**dr. d** · June 20th, 2020 11:52 PM

Originally Posted by ronki

I can attest to the D4Ds durability. We have Gen 1 Innova's as our service vehicle clocking around 300k with heavy load (used to carry equipment aside from personnel).

Commander asked for the Innova E as she watched RIT's review in youtube, unless I can defend myself and my other choices (Montero, Terra, lol)

you're lucky.
there is room for reasoning.
in others' situations, it's martial law.
heh heh.

**Lakwatsero** · June 21st, 2020 12:10 AM

Originally Posted by jut703

Sabi pa nila dati di na daw matitibay yang mga new gen of diesels kasi daw bibigay ang turbo after 100k km..pero super dami pa ring gen 1 IMV platform na tumatakbo until today.

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Remember the toyota d4d problems thread? Fuel pump issues, poor calibration ata cos of the extra dirty diesel back in '05. That was resolved quickly though.

With Euro4/5 diesel readily available, expect better longevity on diesel motors.

**jut703** · June 21st, 2020 12:13 AM

Originally Posted by Lakwatsero

Remember the toyota d4d problems thread? Fuel pump issues, poor calibration ata cos of the extra dirty diesel back in '05. That was resolved quickly though.

With Euro4/5 diesel readily available, expect better longevity on diesel motors.

Yup, a very small percentage of all D4Ds sold if you look at the bigger picture.

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**babkalakal** · June 22nd, 2020 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by ronki

I can attest to the D4Ds durability. We have Gen 1 Innova's as our service vehicle clocking around 300k with heavy load (used to carry equipment aside from personnel).

Commander asked for the Innova E as she watched RIT's review in youtube, unless I can defend myself and my other choices (Montero, Terra, lol)

na test drive nyo na ba both models? i mean both of you together malay mo mas magustuhan niya montero afterwards