2018 Toyota Hilux G 4x4 MT vs 2018 Nissan NP300 VL 4x4 MT

**GTi** · February 9th, 2018 09:00 PM

I'd say the Ranger Raptor is "going soft" the way it was spec'd. It's really more of a lifestyle vehicle than anything else. While the 2.0 biturbo is no pussy, it would probably be better appreciated in a smaller vehicle, or even a van. Call me old fashioned, but I believe a bigger, unstressed engine would be a better match for this car.

While power may not be the selling point of this car, considering its level of equipment and expected price range, people will definitely expect more. Heck, if I'd hear the words "Ranger Raptor", I'd fully expect everything they did with the suspension, plus the new 3.0V6 turbo diesel developed for the F150.

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**godwhacker** · February 9th, 2018 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by GTi

I'd say the Ranger Raptor is "going soft" the way it was spec'd.

and the nex time you knew,,, when someone says "comfort"

1. ford ranger raptor
2. nissan navara

WOW!

**Walter** · February 10th, 2018 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by Egan101

A 7-seater PPV based off a Ranger Raptor??? Unless you plan on punishing your rear passengers for each ride, it will just be too uncomfortable. The Ranger Raptor uses a different suspension setup and geared more for performance. Those coilovers will give it a nasty stiff ride.

Um, isn't the Ford Ranger Raptor more comfortable than the regular Ford Ranger ... Leaf spring vs Coil? ... the suspension can also be set to comfort mode? ...

**Egan101** · February 10th, 2018 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by Walter

Um, isn't the Ford Ranger Raptor more comfortable than the regular Ford Ranger ... Leaf spring vs Coil? ... the suspension can also be set to comfort mode? ...

Performance-tuned suspensions are never meant to be comfortable. They are usually stiffer.

Case in point - the regular Impreza is more comfortable in terms of ride stiffness compared to the WRX.

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**Walter** · February 11th, 2018 07:57 AM

Coil springs are more comfortable than leaf springs ... the Ford Ranger Raptor is marketed as a lifestyle vehicle and not as a regular pickup hence the suspension is tuned better for comfort rather than for carrying loads ...

**godwhacker** · February 11th, 2018 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by Walter

Coil springs are more comfortable than leaf springs ... the Ford Ranger Raptor is marketed as a lifestyle vehicle and not as a regular pickup hence the suspension is tuned better for comfort rather than for carrying loads ...

ahhh,,, so the atmosphere has changed. Now that Ford has a rear coil spring version of their pickup, a new category is born... "Lifestyle pickup" or , lifestyle vehicle. i wouldn't be surprised if Toyota or Mitsu
will also launch their own "upgraded" rear suspension and call it "the Lifestyle". "air suspension" anyone?

so, indeed, nice marketing term...lifestyle pickup.. and see? Ford is no. 1 spot now...

1. Ford Ranger Raptor
2. Nissan Navara
3. Mercedes X
4. Toyota Lifestyle???
5. MItsu LIfestyle???
6. Isuzu Lifestyle???
7. Colorado Lifesytle???

**GTcervan** · February 11th, 2018 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by Walter

Coil springs are more comfortable than leaf springs ... the Ford Ranger Raptor is marketed as a lifestyle vehicle and not as a regular pickup hence the suspension is tuned better for comfort rather than for carrying loads ...

I think there is a coil spring which is stiffened for a performance setup, like the one found in the ranger raptor. While not as stiff as a leaf spring, I think it is more stiffer than other suvs or pickups with coil springs because the stiffness it has can influence its performance in cornering and may be able to minimize rollovers, etc. because it isn't a soft roader at all. And the stiffer suspension was also probably made for more longevity. Well, that's what I think about it.

**trucker111** · February 11th, 2018 04:02 PM

Now back to the topic.

**GTi** · February 11th, 2018 04:43 PM

^Have you checked out both units at the showroom? I suggest you get a feel of the vehicle along with your family. Have a test drive if available.

Ever considered the D-Max? Durability, reliability and resale value should not be any less than the Hilux's. Known to have excellent fuel efficiency too.

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