2015 Advie GLX or 2015 Crosswind XT

[dr. d]

if TS is from western mindanao...
i'd recommend to him, the model that has an outlet in his area.
hirap magpagawa ng kotse kung walang piyesa...

[Dudee]

if TS is from western mindanao...
i'd recommend to him, the model that has an outlet in his area.
hirap magpagawa ng kotse kung walang piyesa...

we have dealers here of toyota, honda, suzuki, subaru, mitsu, foton, JMC, pero walang isuzu...

dealers here dont have a test unit din.

[Dudee]

... Though from what I can see it is less susceptible to smoke belching as compared to the Crosswind.

I tot 4d56 are smoke belchers...

[Gerbo]

we have dealers here of toyota, honda, suzuki, subaru, mitsu, foton, JMC, pero walang isuzu...

dealers here dont have a test unit din.

Saan sa Mindanao ito na meron Suzuki at Subaru dealer pero walang Isuzu? Southern Motors have many affiliate offices across the island.

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we have dealers here of toyota, honda, suzuki, subaru, mitsu, foton, JMC, pero walang isuzu...

dealers here dont have a test unit din.

Saan sa Mindanao ito na meron Suzuki at Subaru dealer pero walang Isuzu? Southern Motors have many affiliate offices across the island.

[Gerbo]

Crosswind XT LE owner here, albeit the 2006 version.


The vehicle is still fine. No major problems. Airconditioning has not been serviced but works fine until this days.
Just change regularly engine oil, oil filter, and fuel filter and it will not give you problems.

Brought it at the time when i cannot yet afford an SUV (yes, has an MS in the garage today and the ride is world's apart but the Crosswind is a very reliable car).

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Crosswind XT LE owner here, albeit the 2006 version.


The vehicle is still fine. No major problems. Airconditioning has not been serviced but works fine until this days.
Just change regularly engine oil, oil filter, and fuel filter and it will not give you problems.

Brought it at the time when i cannot yet afford an SUV (yes, has an MS in the garage today and the ride is world's apart but the Crosswind is a very reliable car).

[Silvio_12]

Given the long surviving units of both these models, I guess this is no longer a question of reliability.
I can only attest for the adventure's aircon, still works fine after 7 years, the only maintenance performed was cleaning.
Although both vehicles are matagtag, as a passenger I find it more comfortable to ride the Adventure.

No offense sir but may I ask why the Innova J Diesel is not in your shortlist? Less than 900K din sya at definitely mas comfortable pa.

Testdrive na yan sir para makadecide na ! ! !

Yes, I wonder why you didn't consider the Innova J. It's also comfortable car

[Silvio_12]

Crosswind XT LE owner here, albeit the 2006 version.


The vehicle is still fine. No major problems. Airconditioning has not been serviced but works fine until this days.
Just change regularly engine oil, oil filter, and fuel filter and it will not give you problems.

Brought it at the time when i cannot yet afford an SUV (yes, has an MS in the garage today and the ride is world's apart but the Crosswind is a very reliable car).

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Crosswind XT LE owner here, albeit the 2006 version.


The vehicle is still fine. No major problems. Airconditioning has not been serviced but works fine until this days.
Just change regularly engine oil, oil filter, and fuel filter and it will not give you problems.

Brought it at the time when i cannot yet afford an SUV (yes, has an MS in the garage today and the ride is world's apart but the Crosswind is a very reliable car).

Congrats sir for your new SUV

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Crosswind XT LE owner here, albeit the 2006 version.


The vehicle is still fine. No major problems. Airconditioning has not been serviced but works fine until this days.
Just change regularly engine oil, oil filter, and fuel filter and it will not give you problems.

Brought it at the time when i cannot yet afford an SUV (yes, has an MS in the garage today and the ride is world's apart but the Crosswind is a very reliable car).

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Crosswind XT LE owner here, albeit the 2006 version.


The vehicle is still fine. No major problems. Airconditioning has not been serviced but works fine until this days.
Just change regularly engine oil, oil filter, and fuel filter and it will not give you problems.

Brought it at the time when i cannot yet afford an SUV (yes, has an MS in the garage today and the ride is world's apart but the Crosswind is a very reliable car).

Congrats sir for your new SUV

[Gerbo]

Congrats sir for your new SUV

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Congrats sir for your new SUV

The SUV is not new. And the Crosswind is still very much in-service.

[GTi]

I tot 4d56 are smoke belchers...

I've seen my fair share of smoke belching 4D56's whether they be L300's, Adventure's or Montero's. But then I've seen even more smoke belching Crosswind's. Whether it is a design flaw, result of poor maintenance or both I don't know. However I have a relative who has a 2012 IPV for business use. It uses the very same engine as the Crosswind. The car is religiously maintained. There is no visible smoke under normal driving, though there are lots under full throttle. I've been told that it was once apprehended by ASBUs and failed. They brought the IPV to a mechanic who somehow modified the exhaust (didn't know what he did) that greatly reduced the smoke. Apparently this mod is well known among 4JA1 fleet service operators.

[Silvio_12]

The SUV is not new. And the Crosswind is still very much in-service.

Oh, But atleast you have an SUV. Other people dreamt of having an SUV too, like me. Hehehe.

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The SUV is not new. And the Crosswind is still very much in-service.

Oh, But atleast you have an SUV. Other people dreamt of having an SUV too, like me. Hehehe.

[ECdoesit]

For what purpose is the car?

I would only get the Adventure/Crosswind if it's for business use.

For personal/family use, the Innova is exponentially better than these two. However, I understand it's out of budget.

I would suggest the Avanza or Ertiga instead. These aren't as rugged as an Adventure/Crosswind, but these are much more comfortable and modern. Not to mention cheaper too.

752k for an AT Ertiga GL, 712k for the MT. Yes it'll have higher fuel consumption than the Adventure/Crosswind, but since it's much cheaper, you still spend less in the long run.

Hi Sir, sorry po kasi bago lang po ako nagregister. Nag-try po ako maghanap ng thread para dito pero ito na po yung nakita ko na related.

Anyway, sir, nasabi niyo po na ang Crosswind ay bagay lang kung business use (UV express, I'm guessing?) at may mga mas maganda/ mas komportable na sasakyan pampamilya. Ang question ko po: kung ang budget po para sa pampamilyang sasakyan ay up to 900K lang, ano po ba mas sulit, brand new na crosswind or 2nd hand na montero (2009-2011 GLS models po, may nakikita ako na less than 900K).

Ako po kasi, gusto ko na sana yung montero. Kung mapapatignan naman po sa mechanic before bilihin. Yung tatay ko po, mas gusto crosswind. Takot kasi siya dahil sabi niya mahal daw ang parts ng montero, ang crosswind daw mura lang. Hindi ko po alam kung sino may better choice sa amin. Eh hati po kami sa pagbayad sa bibilihin na sasakyan.

Salamat po. And sorry po ulit kung naliligaw ang post na ito.

[jut703]

I'd rather get a used Montero than a Crosswind, kahit brand new pa yung Crosswind.

The Crosswind is tough, reliable, and easy to maintain. If those are what you want, fine, get a Crosswind. But it's nowhere near as safe, comfortable, feature-packed, or easy to drive as a more modern car like the Mobilio.

Why not get a Mobilio instead?

[crosswind]

^^
A brandnew toyota innova for your family sir it's more spacious and comfortable than a montero
kung gusto mo crosswind get a used one right sir jut kasi the new facelifted model that fit your budget is so cheap and generation behind beacuse of the seat configuration mas maganda pa ung 60:40 ng 12yr old xuv ko

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A brandnew toyota innova for your family sir it's more spacious and comfortable than a montero
kung gusto mo crosswind get a used one right sir jut kasi the new facelifted model that fit your budget is so cheap and generation behind beacuse of the seat configuration mas maganda pa ung 60:40 ng 12yr old xuv ko

[Syuryuken]

kung 900k bili ka na lang ng 2014 Ford Everest brand new condition pa yan at may warranty pa

[SkyFlakes88]

Best is to set your priorities first then decide which would best serve your requirements po.

Brandnew at 900k budget can get you an innova j or e m/t gas or diesel.better than the crosswind. Kung primary vehicle sya mga 15k kms a year mileage better get the diesel variant. Kung mga 8k kms a year ok din yun gas. Yun diesel po nang crosswind kasi po kung madalas edsa biyahe baka later on madalas kayo parahin para sa smoke test nang mmda. Though cheaper to maintain dahil old diesel engine sya unlike crdi engines.

[SkyFlakes88]

Yun po palang montero sir maganda sa maganda pero mas mahal parts nya for maintenance. Gulong lang mga 10k each na po.[emoji111]🏻️

[dos2]

Ama laban sa Anak...
Kidding aside, both of you have valid points. It is just a matter of convincing one another. While it is true Crosswinds are built to last and cheaper to maintain, they are too outdated with the competition which is probably why you prefer a Montero albeit 2nd hand. Iba pa rin talaga ang dating ng SUV kaso yun nga mas matas na uri ng sasakyan, mas mahal ang magiging maintenance mo.

If I am your father, I may only agree with you if you can assure me that you will shoulder bulk of the maintenance and replacement costs of the MS since that is what you want. He may be the kind of person that once he set his budge,t he wouldn't deviate from it unless ultra necessary. Better yet, since 900K naman ang budget nyo, test drive the Innova if haven't done so and know for yourself why it has so many fans including me.

[ECdoesit]

I'd rather get a used Montero than a Crosswind, kahit brand new pa yung Crosswind.

The Crosswind is tough, reliable, and easy to maintain. If those are what you want, fine, get a Crosswind. But it's nowhere near as safe, comfortable, feature-packed, or easy to drive as a more modern car like the Mobilio.

Why not get a Mobilio instead?

Yun din po yung reasons ng tatay ko para sa Crosswind. Pero kasi, feeling ko lang, dahil galing siya sa lumang Nissan Power Eagle, "comfortable" nadin para sa kanya yung brand new Crosswind.

Yung Mobilio po, nakita ko sa website ng Honda, 807k lang pala yung base model (M/T) tapos 877k yung CVT. Pasok din sa budget. Ang question ko po dito ay sa maintenance. Forever casa po ba ito? Kasi Honda tapos bago lang siya dito sa Pilipinas. And siguro po mahal din ang parts nito parang Montero?

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A brandnew toyota innova for your family sir it's more spacious and comfortable than a montero
kung gusto mo crosswind get a used one right sir jut kasi the new facelifted model that fit your budget is so cheap and generation behind beacuse of the seat configuration mas maganda pa ung 60:40 ng 12yr old xuv ko

Thank you sir sa input. Magbuild pa po ako ng case para sa Innova (and Mobilio) para pag sinuggest ko sa tatay ko, mae-explain ko ng maayos sa kanya yung side ko. Haha. Yung mga 2nd hand Crosswind po ba ay reliable pa? Kasi po dalawa na yung kilala ko (yung isa pinsan ko) na after 3 years, ang dalas na sobra kailangan ipagawa yung Crosswind kaya binenta nalang.

kung 900k bili ka na lang ng 2014 Ford Everest brand new condition pa yan at may warranty pa

Naku sir, parang mas mahirap pa ibenta ang Everest sa tatay ko kesa Montero. Pero salamat nadin po sa suggestion.

Best is to set your priorities first then decide which would best serve your requirements po.

Brandnew at 900k budget can get you an innova j or e m/t gas or diesel.better than the crosswind. Kung primary vehicle sya mga 15k kms a year mileage better get the diesel variant. Kung mga 8k kms a year ok din yun gas. Yun diesel po nang crosswind kasi po kung madalas edsa biyahe baka later on madalas kayo parahin para sa smoke test nang mmda. Though cheaper to maintain dahil old diesel engine sya unlike crdi engines.

Bale yung mga considerations po sa sasakyan na bibilihin ay:
1. Comfort for the whole family pag bibiyahe. Lalo siguro sa driver, kasi tatay ko usually nagddrive dahil gusto niya. Eh matanda nadin siya.
2. Yung hindi masyadong magastos maintenance. (Gusto ng tatay ko pala, CRDI, pero parang may nabasa ako na magastos to i-maintain? Tama po ba?)
3. Yung hindi magiging kailangan palitan agad in about 5 years. Kasi sobrang tagal po samin ang sasakyan before isuko.

Ang use case po ay family service around Metro Manila (Paco/Ermita/Makati area) and mga once or twice a month po pinupuntahan ng tatay ko yung client niya sa planta nila sa Bataan at Pampanga.

Yun po palang montero sir maganda sa maganda pero mas mahal parts nya for maintenance. Gulong lang mga 10k each na po.[emoji111]🏻️

Yan nga po sir yung kinakatakot ng tatay ko. Naglaway lang ata ako sa mga nakita ko na "murang" Montero.


Mga sirs, maraming salamat po sa mga input ninyo. Ang bilis pala magreply ng mga tao dito sa tsikot!


Ang haba na pala nito.

Maraming maraming salamat po mga sirs. And sa TS po, sorry nakisingit ako dito sa thread mo sir kasi semi-related tapos bawal padin ako magstart ng thread.

[ECdoesit]

Ama laban sa Anak...
Kidding aside, both of you have valid points. It is just a matter of convincing one another. While it is true Crosswinds are built to last and cheaper to maintain, they are too outdated with the competition which is probably why you prefer a Montero albeit 2nd hand. Iba pa rin talaga ang dating ng SUV kaso yun nga mas matas na uri ng sasakyan, mas mahal ang magiging maintenance mo.

If I am your father, I may only agree with you if you can assure me that you will shoulder bulk of the maintenance and replacement costs of the MS since that is what you want. He may be the kind of person that once he set his budge,t he wouldn't deviate from it unless ultra necessary. Better yet, since 900K naman ang budget nyo, test drive the Innova if haven't done so and know for yourself why it has so many fans including me.

Haha. Parang ganun na nga po. Yung tatay ko kasi sarado ang kamay pagdating sa gastos. Kaya po talagang tinatry ko i-backup yung case ko for a more modern car. Yun din po, hindi ko pa siya na-assure na tutulong ako pati sa maintenance cost.

BTW, sa ngayon po, scratch ko na yung Montero sa list. Crosswind, Innova and Mobilio nalang po. Matanong ko lang din po, yung Innova po, kamusta maintenance ninyo? Yung parts availability po malamang madami dahil Toyota, pero yung cost po ba comparable kaya sa Crosswind?

Maraming salamat, sir!

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Ama laban sa Anak...
Kidding aside, both of you have valid points. It is just a matter of convincing one another. While it is true Crosswinds are built to last and cheaper to maintain, they are too outdated with the competition which is probably why you prefer a Montero albeit 2nd hand. Iba pa rin talaga ang dating ng SUV kaso yun nga mas matas na uri ng sasakyan, mas mahal ang magiging maintenance mo.

If I am your father, I may only agree with you if you can assure me that you will shoulder bulk of the maintenance and replacement costs of the MS since that is what you want. He may be the kind of person that once he set his budge,t he wouldn't deviate from it unless ultra necessary. Better yet, since 900K naman ang budget nyo, test drive the Innova if haven't done so and know for yourself why it has so many fans including me.

Haha. Parang ganun na nga po. Yung tatay ko kasi sarado ang kamay pagdating sa gastos. Kaya po talagang tinatry ko i-backup yung case ko for a more modern car. Yun din po, hindi ko pa siya na-assure na tutulong ako pati sa maintenance cost.

BTW, sa ngayon po, scratch ko na yung Montero sa list. Crosswind, Innova and Mobilio nalang po. Matanong ko lang din po, yung Innova po, kamusta maintenance ninyo? Yung parts availability po malamang madami dahil Toyota, pero yung cost po ba comparable kaya sa Crosswind?

Maraming salamat, sir!

[SkyFlakes88]

Bale yung mga considerations po sa sasakyan na bibilihin ay:
1. Comfort for the whole family pag bibiyahe. Lalo siguro sa driver, kasi tatay ko usually nagddrive dahil gusto niya. Eh matanda nadin siya.
2. Yung hindi masyadong magastos maintenance. (Gusto ng tatay ko pala, CRDI, pero parang may nabasa ako na magastos to i-maintain? Tama po ba?)
3. Yung hindi magiging kailangan palitan agad in about 5 years. Kasi sobrang tagal po samin ang sasakyan before isuko.

Sir

1. Ilan po kayo sa family? Kung 7 better get the innova. Yun montero po d comfortable sa 3rd row sa long drive. Saka po yun height nang montero mataas baka mahirapan umakyat sa driver seat yun father nyo while sa innova po halos pantay lang sa bewang.

2. Mas matipid po maintenance innova kesa montero. Just make sure na malinis po lagi yun diesel fuel na kinakarga nyo.

3. Siguradong tatagal naman po kahit montero or innova basta po tama ang maintenance.