2012 Compacts: Which would you rather drive?

[niky]

It should. Previous gen Focus had a better suspension and steering feel than the previous Mazda3, even though the stock tires were not nearly as good.

[Verbl Kint]

We are forgetting the Kia Soul, which is technically also a compact.

[basti08]

We are forgetting the Kia Soul, which is technically also a compact.

It competes with Nissan Cube and Toyota Bb. Doesn't belong here. And then, there's the Kia Forte. The Opel Astra isn't there, so as the Volkswagen Golf/Jetta to complete the compact segment, but then they aren't sold here or at the least have a counterpart.

[Verbl Kint]

It competes with Nissan Cube and Toyota Bb. Doesn't belong here. And then, there's the Kia Forte. The Opel Astra isn't there, so as the Volkswagen Golf/Jetta to complete the compact segment, but then they aren't sold here or at the least have a counterpart.

So the Soul doesn't belong to the list because the cars it primarily competes with are not available here?

[Verbl Kint]

It competes with Nissan Cube and Toyota Bb. Doesn't belong here. And then, there's the Kia Forte. The Opel Astra isn't there, so as the Volkswagen Golf/Jetta to complete the compact segment, but then they aren't sold here or at the least have a counterpart.

So the Soul doesn't belong to the list because the cars it primarily competes with are not available here?

[pop3corn]

kung bibile ako ng compact car ngaun eto ang preference ako top to bottom order

1. Hyundai Accent 1.4 M/T
2. Kia Rio HB A/T
3. Suzuki Kizashi A/T
4. upcoming Chevy Aveo Hatch A/T
5. Suzuki SX4 Hatch A/T
6. Mitsubishi Lancer 1.6 M/T

I decide based on looks and practicality.

[niky]

It doesn't belong because it's a subcompact crossover, not a compact sedan. Sort of one rung below the ASX, with a footprint similar to the Honda Jazz.

Of course, with how cars are growing bigger in each generation, there's a blurring of the size classifications... But the Soul really doesn't belong in this one... despite being an interesting alternative.

[eido]

Which has more interior space? Civic or focus?

[jut703]

It should. Previous gen Focus had a better suspension and steering feel than the previous Mazda3, even though the stock tires were not nearly as good.

True. NCT5s compared to the Potenza RE050? Big big difference

I read that the new Focus is riding on Michelins custom made for it. I wonder what the details are.

[Verbl Kint]

I read that the new Focus is riding on Michelins custom made for it. I wonder what the details are.

Are these the 195/60 15's HydroEdge tires? Or the thinner low-resistance tires used on the Econetic version?

[Verbl Kint]

It doesn't belong because it's a subcompact crossover, not a compact sedan. Sort of one rung below the ASX, with a footprint similar to the Honda Jazz.

Of course, with how cars are growing bigger in each generation, there's a blurring of the size classifications... But the Soul really doesn't belong in this one... despite being an interesting alternative.

Point taken. The SX4 pictured is the Xover version which is why I asked about the Soul.

[jut703]

Are these the 195/60 15's HydroEdge tires? Or the thinner low-resistance tires used on the Econetic version?

I tried digging more about it, and from what I found, my best guess is that the Focus now comes with Michelin Pilot Sport 3 tires.

[niky]

Spending extra on tires does good. The Lynx came with Advans that drove pretty well. The Fiesta's ContiSport Contact 3s are very premium tires for such a cheap car.

[basti08]

So the Soul doesn't belong to the list because the cars it primarily competes with are not available here?

Not really. Because there's a proper car to compete in that segment, and that is the overpriced Forte sedan :D

[foresterx]

mazda 3 for me then impreza

[jut703]

Spending extra on tires does good. The Lynx came with Advans that drove pretty well. The Fiesta's ContiSport Contact 3s are very premium tires for such a cheap car.

Newer Fiestas I've been seeing have ContiPremium Contacts instead of the ContiSport. Dunno which is better though.

Advans for the Lynx RS? That's pretty impressive. Only the Lancer EX GT-A and Impreza 2.0R have those as standard nowadays.

[cyplanr]

Not really. Because there's a proper car to compete in that segment, and that is the overpriced Forte sedan :D

hindi na ata overpriced ang Forte ng Kia, PHP 828k ang 1.6L na AT... PHP 948k naman ang Koup na 2.0L AT

[niky]

Lynx rode on A460s. After a year or two, when we started swapping to other tires, many of us started to realize how goo dhte stock tires were... Usually, aftermarket tires are better than factory-equipped tires, but in the case of the RS, the A460s were almost as good as some of the more popular sports tires of the time.

[jut703]

The thread is turning out to be interesting.

People vote for the Focus, Lancer, and Impreza the most; yet, when you look at actual sales figures, it's the Altis, Elantra, and Civic that more people end up buying.

I guess it just shows that brand loyalty still plays a very big part in the car buying process of the average Filipino. Also shows how borloloy is preferred over driving dynamics.

Since the Focus has both borloloy and driving dynamics, it might just sell well. Question is, does the Ford brand exude reliability and easy maintenance for the average pinoy?

[fourtheboys96]

guys, what with the subaru?

even here in japan, I haven't seen lots of it. mostly toyota, honda and nissan for daily drive.

but I have seen subaru van similar to a suzuki super carry. will pinoys buy that considering it is subaru?