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    the 2.4L is priced at around 1.6M+ and the 3.5L V6-VCM is at around 1.9M+. mas mahal sa camry ung 2.4L pero mas mura ung V6 nito kaysa sa camry. i think toyota is becoming too overpriced.
    it's larger than the camry. americans can't classify this accord as a compact. its wheelbase is 2800mm, which is 100mm longer than that of the pilot and the civic.

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    This would be my order of preferrence:

    3rd Accord
    2nd Mazda 6
    1st Camry

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmg_32188 View Post
    the 2.4L is priced at around 1.6M+ and the 3.5L V6-VCM is at around 1.9M+. mas mahal sa camry ung 2.4L pero mas mura ung V6 nito kaysa sa camry. i think toyota is becoming too overpriced.
    it's larger than the camry. americans can't classify this accord as a compact. its wheelbase is 2800mm, which is 100mm longer than that of the pilot and the civic.
    Because it's NOT a compact. It's a midsize car.

    Technically, under US guidelines, the dimensions of the Accord make it a large car---definitely NOT compact

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    2008 Honda Accord 3.5 S-V V6 VCM vs Toyota Camry 3.5Q V6





    Between the two, I'd pick the Accord.

    From the Suspension alone, the 5K extra is simply more than worth it. Front Double Wishbones versus the Camry's MacPherson struts?! Heck Toyota! Throw it back to the Vios. Give it something the Camry deserves. Rear suspension? Still at Accord's favor, Multi-link versus Dual-link Struts. The Camry's basic suspension geometry is actually identical to the rather sporty but now defunct Ford Lynx, but I have yet to find someone who actually think that the Camry is indeed sporty. Traction Control is standard on both V6 cars.

    Straightline performance may favor the Camry's better power to weight ratio and six forward gears. But knowing Toyota which would favor silky smooth shifts over fast accelaration may happen to favor Accord which in its history actually has some jerky quick up and downshift in a hunt for a faster acceleration but still thrifty in gas though. The Accord is some 51Kgs heavier than the equivalent V6 Camry.
    VCM is another good feature of the Accord. Granting that the Camry V6 is faster, I'm sure the Accord V6 is thriftier in gasoline consumption.

    Features is just about the same, but the Accord is more younger in its content. Moonroof, front power seats, LCD monitor, Aux equipped HU, 6 versus 4 Airbags for the Camry etc. The Camry is more luxurified, power f & r seats, rear AC vents, illuminated footwell entry, smart keyless entry, engine start and stop feature. Some uber luxury items that are, well..... uber.

    Styling, take your pick. I'd actually think the Camry is still more handsome but the Accord is fresher, more unique, more of where the trend is going.


    2008 Honda Accord 2.4 S vs 2008 Mazda 6 2.5L vs Toyota Camry 2.4V



    Accord-P 1.645M
    6-P 1.499M
    Camry-P 1.646M, P 1.661M Pearl White Mica

    On 4 cylinder issue, I'd take the 6 as 1st, Accord 2nd and Camry last.

    The thing about the 4cyl Camry is, it is so pricey. If I were to give an exact rating with the V6 counterparts earlier it would have been 95-92% favor of the Accord. Price issue on 4cylinder variants would widen the gap for me to say, 95-94-90% for the 6, Accord and Camry, respectively. The arrival of the much more value oriented and feature packed 4 cylinder 2008 Mazda6 2.5L and 2008 Honda Accord 2.4 S adds confirmation to the Camry being a bit too pricey.

    Safety would be the unavailability of extra Airbags. In the Camry, you would be getting two while in the Accord even the much more cheaper 6 offers six airbags. Traction Control are also not found in the Camry which are also offered standard in its rivals.

    Performance in acceleration, if the Camry V6 is lighter than the Accord V6, the same holds true for 4 cylinder models but the Mazda6 2.5L is lighter still than both of them. Weighing at 1470kgs, it is about 50-100 kilos lighter than Camry and Accord respectively. The Accord is actually quite porky this time around. Power to weight should favor Mazda. All of these mid size sedan features a 5 speed automatic transmission. Only the Mazda offers a manual override feature or more commonly known as manumatic feature.

    Suspension, the Accord and 6 will run circles on the Camry. I don't think that the strut suspension will ride much better than the finer suspension of its rivals, if it then, then that may be part due to a higher aspec ratio of its tires (60mm versus 50mm for the Accord and 6). With better suspension set ups and bigger foot print (17s versus 16 of the Camry), either of the two will easily beat the Camry as the King of the Hill..... and winding roads before you get to the hill. The Mazda's compact size is more likable IMO, giving you as much room without much of the bulk. You feel more connected to it unlike the barge feeling of the competition. Partly because the Mazda is marketed as something owner driven type. And you wouldn't wanna drive a car you feel is so bulky, right?

    Features, these cars are nicely equipped with all the essential niceties expected of its class. Major turn off for the Mazda6 is the omission of the Xenon lights which is mostly standard affair on this segment nowadays. But heck! Its more than a hundred thousand cheaper than most of its rivals so just buy it in the aftermarket. Other than that, most of the other important items are present, rain sensing wipers, auto headlamps, leather, accented interiors, power seats and even a sunroof which is a Mazda exclusive. Camry and the Accord offers much about the same but adds side mirror signal indicators and a power folding side mirrors but Camry trumps the competition with a power rear seats and rear vents which truly is very luxurious.

    Styling is subjective. Won't discuss much but the sporty bodykit of the Mazda6 as well as it is fresh without trying to be overly imaginative in the case of the Accord. The Camry despite a 2006 release is still handsome. But with the new Mazda 6 and Accord in the fray, the styling is more describable as being safe and clean.

    Safe and clean it may be, but the Camry still proves to be the country's favorite two years running (the previous Mazda6 is actually a very far 2nd). With the introduction of two of its stiffest rivals, the Camry should not rest on its laurels and TMPI should do something bout its rather stratospheric price.


    *pics c/o motioncars.com

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    Just wondering. There's 2 4-cyl versions of the new Accord. One is the 177hp and the other is the 190hp. Are both models in the RP market?

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    Gawin ko simple.

    Accord= engine(VCM)

    Camry= Ang ganda eh.....

    Seriously.....bakit pag Honda sa makina laging may bagong pakulo.....(baka dahil engineering company sila)

    Ang Toyota naman eh Camry na nga VVTI parin ang pakulo.....(Mga experts correct me na lang kung ano maiyayabang ng makina ng camry ah ) Kaya naman marami bumili ng Camry dahil maganda talaga yung kaha eh....

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    Comparing looks between the new Camry and Accord...... I think the new Accord looks as much a mommy-car as the Camry. The previous gen Accord looked sportier. Otherwise, the USDM Camry V6 XLE in full sports trim still looks much cleaner. Roadholding is also on par with the Accord sedan. Both the Accord and the XLE V6 Camry have skidpad figures of 0.81 g versus 0.77 g for a generic 4-cyl/V6 Camry. I've seen quite a number of the XLE V6 Camrys speeding along Arizona roads.

    From bp2.blogger.com:


    Of course, the new Mazda 6 V6 will have both cars beat in the looks department.
    Last edited by Jun aka Pekto; March 15th, 2008 at 04:54 AM.

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    i think what we have here is your 177Hp which now locally is rated at 180Hp.

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    Some random thoughts.......
    USDM Camry XLE V6 with factory option sports trim


    Actually, I've seen a number of 4-cyl Camrys with this body trim as well. I could tell because the 4-bangers don't have dual exhaust tips.

    I still think it's simpler/cleaner looking than the new Accord. Handling-wise, this stiffer Camry should be the equal of the Accord sedan.

    Maybe it's because I looked at the concept pictures/artist renderings last year which showed a much sportier-looking Accord than what actually came off the factory.

    KBR has a V6 Camry. Not sure if it's the XLE with the stiffer suspension. Maybe he can give a detailed account of its handling. NorCal has plenty of mountain roads and twisties as well.

    I've seen plenty of Camry drivers fling their cars around up those mountain roads beyond the posted speed limit. That's why I have to wonder, what exactly kind of driving one has to do to see these differences in handling outside of a track?

    I've read the reviews and I'm looking outside at reality. Something just doesn't add up.

2008 Honda Accord or Toyota Camry