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    #41
    Same price lang sila boss Leo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ponkan View Post
    saka being practical din sir, mas mataas un Xtrail advantage sa baha, sa akin lang naman un hehehehe, final choice pa din nasa iyo, maganda din un Camry, if you're considering un 200x mag 250x ka na lang sir
    Good point sir. Ive been getting comments nga na whichever one i get, choose the 250x or 2.4v daw. Hindi po ba too much impractical yun with the current gas prices and traffic situation lately? Plan ko pa naman mag 18's on either, then konting drop para magka porma lang ng onti yung tayo.

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    #43
    When using midsizers or petrol CUVs, FC will take a step back against comfort or style or preference. True that there are more fuel efficient petrol CUVs now but we still see a lot of people driving around with their 2nd gen CRVs, Escapes, RAV4s, Tributes, or Xtrails and these vehicles are not really on top of the list for fuel efficiency. The same thing goes for people driving daily with their Accords, Galants, Cefiros, Camrys or Mazda6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    How much for the labor?


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    Quote Originally Posted by jp923 View Post
    Salamat sir! Galing ng inputs nyo. Regarding the xtrail, 04-05 only has 200x and 250x as its variants, right? Yes, im seriously considering it sir. Tipong 55% camry 45% xtrail
    At this point, look at both units second hand and go for the one that gives the best deal and preferably, original paint and a first owner is the one selling. My take on the fuel consumption is that the difference between the 2.4L/2.5L versus the 2.0L will not be that far off anymore, especially if you drive with a light foot. Try to confirm with actual owners.

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    #45
    just my 2 cents...

    I have the camry 2.4 (though with the 5 speed)... its my daily driver in traffic, so the 5 speed does not really matter... I get 6Km/L daily QC-makati rush hour...

    My brother had the Xtrail 250X... also a daily driver... same route... camry gets better mileage... in addtion, the nissan is particular with 95octane... big difference with mileage.

    Camry is more refined... im very particular with sound proofing.. which the Xtrail somehow lacks... even the doors are light

    Though as a Toy Car, xtrail is very nice... was already thinking of large tires, light bars, etc....

    Really a tough choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cta2 View Post
    just my 2 cents...

    I have the camry 2.4 (though with the 5 speed)... its my daily driver in traffic, so the 5 speed does not really matter... I get 6Km/L daily QC-makati rush hour...

    My brother had the Xtrail 250X... also a daily driver... same route... camry gets better mileage... in addtion, the nissan is particular with 95octane... big difference with mileage.

    Camry is more refined... im very particular with sound proofing.. which the Xtrail somehow lacks... even the doors are light

    Though as a Toy Car, xtrail is very nice... was already thinking of large tires, light bars, etc....

    Really a tough choice.
    The Camry is very particular sa insulation. Nung natatanggal yung parang rubber lining sa door windows ng Camry ng Grandpa, umingay sya sobra sa highway. At matikas din sa baha. I was once caught in Banawe-Retiro intersection in a bumper high flood, yakang-yaka. :p Isa pa, halos walang vibrations ang Camry, try putting it in 'N', place your hands in the steering wheel and rev it hard. You won't feel anything. Entry ownership talaga is the 2.0G, pero if kaya mo yung facelifted 2.4V mas OK yun kasi power front and rear seats na din.

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    #47
    Wow salamat sa lahat ng comments, insights and suggestion nyo mga boss!!

    Sobrang helpful. Though around 2nd week of december pa 'to magiging possible, gusto ko malaman na agad yung pros and cons para well thought of yung magiging decision ko.

    Wish me luck in deciding and in looking for a best buy unit!!

    Cheers!

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    #48
    With either choice, magiging favorite ka ng gasoline boy na malapit sa inyo

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    From an xtrail owner, for sure you won't get that luxurious feel with it. For me it's really bland inside. Camry gets the nod on that category.

    I bet the fuel efficiency of both cars (xty and camry) would be the same. Mine (2.0) is about 7km/L on 95 octane. Kapag yung cheapest gas (91 octane?) for me wala yung neck-snapping hatak at hirap sa overtakes. So i always load up higher octanes depende kung mura yung blaze.

    My friend owns the 2.5, and he's getting aroung 6.5k/L, so almost the same. Talo ka lang sa 2.5 kapag traffic prone yung daily route mo. On highway driving, its more economical and more fun to drive

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    Quote Originally Posted by basti08 View Post
    The Camry is very particular sa insulation. Nung natatanggal yung parang rubber lining sa door windows ng Camry ng Grandpa, umingay sya sobra sa highway. At matikas din sa baha. I was once caught in Banawe-Retiro intersection in a bumper high flood, yakang-yaka. :p Isa pa, halos walang vibrations ang Camry, try putting it in 'N', place your hands in the steering wheel and rev it hard. You won't feel anything. Entry ownership talaga is the 2.0G, pero if kaya mo yung facelifted 2.4V mas OK yun kasi power front and rear seats na din.
    To add, have taken my 2.0G along Pasong tamo in muffler deep water. Ok naman, though di ko na uulitin for the muffler's sake. And you're right, minimum to no vibrations when in 'N'. Have a little in mine though coz of the broken engine support. But still, very smooth despite that. The 2.0G and 2.4V are identical except for the engine, IIRC.

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    If you're using this daily, it might be more practical to get the X-Trail especially now that flooding and huge potholes caused by dissolved asphalt is the norm.

    We have two 7th gen Accord's. One 2.4 and one 3.0. Compared to the Camry 2.4V of a family friend, I find the Camry's ride very floaty, almost reminiscent of an Expedition, while the Accord feels very much connected to the ground although bumps are still very well filtered. It seems to be rather lacking in features, though it is definitely an excellent car to be driven around in. I find this model's design quite timeless too, ageing more gracefully even than the model that replaced it.

    I'd suggest you consider the Accord too. It is an entirely different model from the 6th gen Accord, with newer engines and platform. With a light foot, the 2.4 gets around 6-7km/L in its daily commute of Timog QC to Ugong Valenzuela via Mindanao Ave. I find the interior of better quality than the Camry's, especially the switchgear. The 5 speed A/T is a very willing companion, downshifting and upshifting as needed with very little hesitation. Handling is excellent despite the heft, and power, though not class leading by today's standards, is by no means lacking. With this model you already get auto climate control, steering wheel mounted audio controls and front power seats.

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    #52
    Quote Originally Posted by leodawesome View Post
    Kapag yung cheapest gas (91 octane?) for me wala yung neck-snapping hatak at hirap sa overtakes. So i always load up higher octanes depende kung mura yung blaze.
    For some reason, all our Nissans always loved 95 octane fuel that's why we always used XCS.

    Quote Originally Posted by basti08 View Post
    The Camry is very particular sa insulation.
    Toyotas in general have good insulation. When i would compare my Altis and Civic side-by-side back when i had both cars in the garage, it was really noticeable; all the more when i get off the Camry or Corolla then drive the Civic.

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    #53
    QG series din yung engine ng XTrail so 95RON talaga preference nyan.

    It's really a hard comparison between the two models and each one has its own strengths/weaknesses. How about we equalize the comparison? A 2004 Camry vs a 2004 Cefiro A33? or the Xtrail against a similarly aged RAV4? Midsize to midsize, CUV to CUV. Midsizers have better insulation, better interior space, and geared towards comfort. The CUVs have the bigger rear cargo hold, stiffer ride, and more ground clearance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    QG series din yung engine ng XTrail so 95RON talaga preference nyan.

    It's really a hard comparison between the two models and each one has its own strengths/weaknesses. How about we equalize the comparison? A 2004 Camry vs a 2004 Cefiro A33? or the Xtrail against a similarly aged RAV4? Midsize to midsize, CUV to CUV. Midsizers have better insulation, better interior space, and geared towards comfort. The CUVs have the bigger rear cargo hold, stiffer ride, and more ground clearance.
    Diba QR series ang X-Trail? But then again, I wonder why so many of Nissan's gas engines demand premium gasoline? Even the old GA16DE in the Exalta indicated 95 RON gasoline only on the speedo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    Diba QR series ang X-Trail? But then again, I wonder why so many of Nissan's gas engines demand premium gasoline? Even the old GA16DE in the Exalta indicated 95 RON gasoline only on the speedo.

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    Yes sir GTi QRDE engine ng Xtrail, parang wala naman sa manual ng Xtrail kailangan is 95RON lang, 93 will do wag lang below siguro below dun ako din kasi always 95 kinakarga ko, mix NLEX and city lagi

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    So kung wala nakasulat sa manual ng QR engines na RON requirement, it can accomodate the base petrol available before which is 93RON. Ngayon nga lang, 91RON na yung base petrol so need mo karga ng 95RON. I think some Petron stations can give a whole variety of fuel choices - 91 (Super), 93 (Xtra), 95 (XCS), and 100 (Blaze).

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    Ask ko lang pala camry owners if the 2004 2.4v comes with a 5 speed a/t na?

    Tia
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    Quote Originally Posted by jp923 View Post
    Ask ko lang pala camry owners if the 2004 2.4v comes with a 5 speed a/t na?

    Tia
    Nope, it's only a 4 speed AT. But that's what vinj (or was it basti08?) was raving about. Apparently, because of that 4AT setup, highway passing/overtaking is not a problem, and no downshifts needed most of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    Diba QR series ang X-Trail? But then again, I wonder why so many of Nissan's gas engines demand premium gasoline? Even the old GA16DE in the Exalta indicated 95 RON gasoline only on the speedo.

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    I used to drive an a32 VQ20 engine. I had it for 2 years around 30,000. 95din sya. I mostly gas her up with xcs. Nung newly acquired ko sya i tried filling 200 with unleaded and ramdam mo yung vibration. parang ang baba ng idling na may onting knock feeling and sound. tried it twice 1 week interval so i guess talagang ayaw nya sa low octane gas.

    i also felt this after filling up sa "small named" gas stn even with 95 octane daw. May halo siguro?? Haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMm29 View Post
    Nope, it's only a 4 speed AT. But that's what vinj (or was it basti08?) was raving about. Apparently, because of that 4AT setup, highway passing/overtaking is not a problem, and no downshifts needed most of the time.
    Mustve forgotten about reading it. Sensya na.

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