Which 2-liter Car to Buy?

[Egan101]

These choices might be worth a look, check them out.

Mazda 6 Sale - 2ndhand For Sale Philippines - 54826387

2005 Mazda 6 | Cars for sale Manila | AyosDito.ph

Mazda 6 - 06 AT | Cars for sale Quezon City | AyosDito.ph

[jut703]

These choices might be worth a look, check them out.

Mazda 6 Sale - 2ndhand For Sale Philippines - 54826387

2005 Mazda 6 | Cars for sale Manila | AyosDito.ph

Mazda 6 - 06 AT | Cars for sale Quezon City | AyosDito.ph

Thanks Egan. Sayang hindi sumasagot yung sellers ng black and silver Mz6. I wonder if it's been sold already..


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[IMm29]

Nice find Niky.

[Egan101]

If you're thinking of getting a used 6th gen, get one that's still has a good body. The suspension of the 6th gen is quite solid (double wishbone front & back). Get it cheap and then do an H22 (half-cut) transplant. I still have mine (VTi-L 2.3L AT) but the PS system is starting to leak within the steering rack shaft assembly and it is showing some tranny sliding symptoms. I still like its handling and its body feels light, much like newer compacts. Speed may not be as fast as more modern midsize cars but it's still packs a punch compared to most compacts. I use it for coding now.

If you want a fast 2L compact, get a stock Civic FD 2006-2008 K20 MT (as what Niky suggests) or a Focus TDCi 2007-2008 MT. They could be had for around 400-450k. A few weeks ago, I saw an ad in OLX for a used 2006 Mazda6 in Paranaque for 320k. The ad closed in a week or so.

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I know the fd 2.0 m/t is not in your prospects but just a comment... That Damn thing can go!

[jut703]

Napaisip nga ko bigla eh. Parang biglang nakakatempt yung FD 2.0 because of the performance..

Is the 6 really that much slower than the FD?

Kagabi set na ko eh, biglang binalik yung FD sa equation haha.


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Try it bro... I'm sure you won't be disappointed.

But at that price, your already pushing for...

http://m.*******/index.php/view+class...ords=Evolution

[leodawesome]

Civic FD! Lighter body on a 2.0 compared to the MZ3. Minus the sunroof.

[jut703]

Masyado kasi mataas resale value ng FD na MT, 150k more than a Mazda 3 and even more than a Mazda 6.

Yung binibenta pa sa Sulit medyo ricey (although still recoverable). Thing is, the blue paint just looks too boy-racer, but no choice naman since all 2.0 MTs came in blue.

Mas may dating parin Mazda 6 sakin. More sleeper vibe than a Civic.

I tried contacting all the Mz6 sellers in Sulit and AyosDito and walang nagrereply (except for one selling a white unit but with 18" BBS copy rims). Eh ayoko yung hindi stock tapos wala na daw sa kanya stock rims niya so no thanks nalang.


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[Egan101]

I tried contacting all the Mz6 sellers in Sulit and AyosDito and walang nagrereply (except for one selling a white unit but with 18" BBS copy rims). Eh ayoko yung hindi stock tapos wala na daw sa kanya stock rims niya so no thanks nalang.

If the car is in good shape, I guess this will be fine. The rims & tires are some of the easiest components to replace. You can always sell those and get your choice of 17's with stock size tires. The 2006-2008 Mazda6 came stock with those multi-spoke 17s with 225/45/R17 tires (Bridgestone Potenza, I read from old reviews).

[jut703]

For 500k, you're now looking at the newer model of the Mazda6 2.5L (2009-2012). It has grown bigger over the sleeker, more compact-size 2006-2008 2.3L model but it's more refined. I think Niky posted something regarding the comparison of both models.

Ihink that the pre-facelift 2.5 looks uglier than the 2.3, while the facelifted 2.5 (2011 and up) is still too expensive for me. Actually in general, the 2.5's have ridiculously high asking prices compared to Accords and Camries. But yeah I read from Niky sometime before that the 2.5 is more refined, but there's something about the first gen Mz6 that feels more in tune with my personality - more agile, more rev-happy, not too mushy. I also think it's more timeless than the second gen.

My golf buddie refused as he finds midsizers as daddy cars. He was more looking for a Civic FD/FB.

Baliktad kami ng golf buddy mo bro. I guess I got sick of the FD because it was the most common car driven by students back in college. And hindi naman mukhang tatay yung 6 because it's not as fat and chunky as a Camry or Accord, but has the same level of features and almost the same amount of space. Most importantly, its driving dynamics are closer to a BMW than any other midsizer. And hindi pa naman ako mukhang tatay

If the car is in good shape, I guess this will be fine. The rims & tires are some of the easiest components to replace. You can always sell those and get your choice of 17's with stock size tires. The 2006-2008 Mazda6 came stock with those multi-spoke 17s with 225/45/R17 tires (Bridgestone Potenza, I read from old reviews).

I thought about this bro but considering the rarity of the Mz6, it might be hard to find stock rims for it, especially with the superb Potenza tires (most likely if I find a set in Evangelista it'll have some crappy Westlake tires).

[Egan101]

Baliktad kami ng golf buddy mo bro. I guess I got sick of the FD because it was the most common car driven by students back in college. And hindi naman mukhang tatay yung 6 because it's not as fat and chunky as a Camry or Accord, but has the same level of features and almost the same amount of space. Most importantly, its driving dynamics are closer to a BMW than any other midsizer. And hindi pa naman ako mukhang tatay

Yep, very common nga yung FD. You'd even have a hard time distinguishing the 2.0L models against the 1.8L models though I find most 2.0L FD owners keep their cars stock. If I were to choose, I'd still pick the Mazda6 over a Civic FD for the same price.

I thought about this bro but considering the rarity of the Mz6, it might be hard to find stock rims for it, especially with the superb Potenza tires (most likely if I find a set in Evangelista it'll have some crappy Westlake tires).

You will have a hard time looking for stock rims for the Mazda6 but you may chance upon them in some buy&sell shops. You can always look for something similar or more refined-looking aftermarket rims. Get a used but decent set of 17s from folks who are always changing rims and selling them cheap then put on some grippy tires or performance-oriented touring tires. 18" rims will be fine with the Mazda6 as I have seen some with 19" rims on them. Most modern midsize cars have very good suspension and can easily handle bigger rim sizes without compromising its comfortable ride.

[GTi]

Not considering the 7th gen Accord 2.4? You say that the 2.0 is underpowered, but the 2.4 is not, at least if in good condition. Perhaps you can even find a post-facelift variant, which IMHO looks much sportier. Mazda 6 2.3's are rare in the 2nd hand market, and as much as I like this car, I find the interior design not much to my liking...

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[jut703]

Not considering the 7th gen Accord 2.4? You say that the 2.0 is underpowered, but the 2.4 is not, at least if in good condition. Perhaps you can even find a post-facelift variant, which IMHO looks much sportier. Mazda 6 2.3's are rare in the 2nd hand market, and as much as I like this car, I find the interior design not much to my liking...

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Well mostly because the Accord is priced the same as the Mazda 6 and the Mazda is better for me in all aspects.

I'd rather wait for a Mz6. Not in a hurry naman.


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[mda]

I think, having read a little of your financial thing thread -- it may be a wiser choice to put wants and fun away for the meantime and go for needs - cost (initial outlay), maintenance, reliability.

We had an old 6th gen Accord (2.0 or 2.3 -- not sure) we let go for <200k about 8 years ago. Those are reliable and are cheap. Gas cost will depend on how much you will be using this.

That, or maybe a compact/subcompact from the early 2000s will serve you well. Corolla ZZ? Civic ES?

Payaman muna, BMW later? hehe.

[jut703]

I think, having read a little of your financial thing thread -- it may be a wiser choice to put wants and fun away for the meantime and go for needs - cost (initial outlay), maintenance, reliability.

We had an old 6th gen Accord (2.0 or 2.3 -- not sure) we let go for <200k about 8 years ago. Those are reliable and are cheap. Gas cost will depend on how much you will be using this.

That, or maybe a compact/subcompact from the early 2000s will serve you well. Corolla ZZ? Civic ES?

Payaman muna, BMW later? hehe.

Thanks for the concern bro but I've thought about it and I find that going for a Mazda 6 is still financially sound. A similarly aged compact costs the same, which is why I'm taking advantage of the low resale value of midsizers.

Incremental fuel cost is minimal, more or less 2.5k a month. If I go for a decent car now, I won't need to buy another one in the near future, as opposed to if I settled for a 6th gen Accord or any car older than 10 years, I'll probably be left wanting something newer soon enough.

An older car will have more repairs too. Plus, Mazda 6 owners are usually well-off car enthusiasts and I would expect that the car would be better maintained than your average compact. Major parts replacements will definitely be more expensive but then again for a fairly new car it should still be a few years down the road, and I'm not spending much on the upfront purchase nor will I be paying any monthly amortization so it's not too expensive overall.

Also, I've been so frugal all my life that I want to splurge a little on a nice car. I commuted my entire high school and college life and I worked hard for a good education and a nice job so I want to reward myself a little. Sure I'll have to push back buying a house and lot a little bit, but not too much. I'm still much younger than most people here so I still have quite a lot of time to save.




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[GTi]

I suppose there's the answer to your dilemma. It appears that the Mazda 6 is the car that calls to your heart.

Midsize sedans are pretty sturdy. Our 2005 Accord 2.4 is a daily driver, and has logged over 91tkms already, mostly city driving. Oil changes are done every 10tkms as with all modern Honda's. AFAIK, nothing non-consumable has been replaced, including all suspension parts. I personally don't see anything major failing anytime soon. As long as you find a well-maintained unit, you should be fine. Personally, I don't mind if it isn't very low mileage as long as it isn't ridiculously high and is well taken cared of.



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[Egan101]

For 500k, you're now looking at the newer model of the Mazda6 2.5L (2009-2012). It has grown bigger over the sleeker, more compact-size 2006-2008 2.3L model but it's more refined. I think Niky posted something regarding the comparison of both models.

Kunting pasensya at baka biglang may sumulpot sa mga online ads dyan na good-deal na 2006-2008 Mazda6. Early this year, I was helping out a golf buddie look for a car and we found online this white Mazda6 in Makati selling for 400k. It looked stock but it had a lot of upgrades (coilovers, Cosworth intake, Hotpipes, piggyback chip). The owner listed its whp at 200hp and even mentioned the car was featured in a local car magazine. My golf buddie refused as he finds midsizers as daddy cars. He was more looking for a Civic FD/FB.

[GTi]

Accord 3.0V6 ayaw? Halos pareho ang resale value sa 2.4 and only 1km/L less in FC as compared to the 2.4! Hehe~ :D You get cruise control, sunroof and VSA.

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[jut703]

Accord 3.0V6 ayaw? Halos pareho ang resale value sa 2.4 and only 1km/L less in FC as compared to the 2.4! Hehe~ :D You get cruise control, sunroof and VSA.

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1 km/L nga lang ba? The 7th gen didn't have VCM yet IIRC and 5AT lang.

Anyway, even if we assume that the V6 gets 5 km/L while the 2.3 gets 6 km/L, that's still an additional 20% consumption. I'm already pushing myself beyond my benchmark 7.5 km/L (Civic 1.8 FC) with the Mz6 so stretch talaga masyado yung V6.


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