1.6 Civic VTi versus 1.6 Altis

[seonadancing]

I prefer the Civic. I don't like the shape of the Altis. Dami pa kailangan na mods para pagandahin.

[squala]

I prefer the Civic. I don't like the shape of the Altis. Dami pa kailangan na mods para pagandahin.

Baliktad ata chong!

[dxx_ddf]

for me i go for altis. overall perforemance, swabe than civic. or if you want, you could wait for the 06 civic. LUPIT!!!!

[JMV]

I'm a CIVIC VTI 1.6l owner.
I haven't driven an Altis yet, but base from observation I have read from this forum thread, I would agree that CIVIC's VTEC3 has REALLY strong "HATAK" at high speeds (2500+ RPM). So when cruising above 100 KPH, I can readily control my speeds almost instantaneously (90~130 KPH) in a matter of seconds... one great advantage to suddenly cruise over other cars in the highway.

My gas consumption historically is 13.53 KPL and just recently 14.2 KPL (60%~70% highway). I am totally satisfied with my CIVIC - both in power and fuel consumption.

[vinj]

Ayan, dahil lang sa thread na to bumili kami ng isang Altis at isang 7th Gen na Civic... :D hehehe... actually bumili ako ng 2nd hand 7th Gen Civic Lxi (pinalit ko sa beloved Frontier ko as my needs have shifted to having a sedan) and my sis got an Altis under her hubby's car plan. There are some variances like the Civic is a used 1.5L manual and the Altis is a bnew 1.6L a/t.

Altis:
- good low-end torque and gearing which favors driving with a light foot to keep the car moving at a good speed and encourages good fuel economy.
- engine feels somewhat thrashy or restricted at high rpms
- slightly better rear headroom vs. the Civic
- better turning radius then the Civic
- more engine room space
- driver seat position is high but people near or beyond 6ft will start to feel cramped due to the limited seat roll back adjustment.
- the a-pillars obscure the front view
- annoying beep when set in reverse

Civic:
- picks-up better at the high rpm range and on highways speeds but lacks the low-end grunt... our old 1993 Sentra 1.4JX feels to have better low-end pull than this engine.
- more rear leg room due to the absence of the center bump
- better front row adjustments for tall drivers; better leg and thigh support for those long drives.
- flatter handling
- easier to throw around the corners due to the lower, wider stance (although i've now added 15" tires and rims and a STB... just need to find a nice set of aftermarket gas shocks to complete my desires in the handling and feel dept).
- better stock sound system
- still feels solid after 50k kms; had to replace a couple of control arm bushings though as i spotted some tears on it and the rear shocks are already soft.

[Kanut]

altis' front section reminds me of prince charles' nose :hihihi:

[squala]

- still feels solid after 50k kms; had to replace a couple of control arm bushings though as i spotted some tears on it and the rear shocks are already soft.

The 7th Gen Civic's shocks are really soft. I've followed a number of these and they really bounce on not-so-good roads. My friend, who got his VTi last year brand new, installed lowering springs right away, and boy, as if there were no shocks. It took a while for me to convince him of bringing the shocks to Zee. The bounce was lessened somehow but not eradicated because the shocks can only handle so much PSI because it's twin-tube.

[vinj]

The 7th Gen Civic's shocks are really soft. I've followed a number of these and they really bounce on not-so-good roads. My friend, who got his VTi last year brand new, installed lowering springs right away, and boy, as if there were no shocks. It took a while for me to convince him of bringing the shocks to Zee. The bounce was lessened somehow but not eradicated because the shocks can only handle so much PSI because it's twin-tube.

Yup, confirmed this also with my friend who had one... the softness reminds me of the ones in our old N16 Sentra Grandeur. The difference is I remedied the ones in our N16 easily by getting Paraut gas shocks at P1,500* only. The KYBs for the rears of the Civic ES cost P4,200* at the least so i have to save extra moolah before i get a set... I was thinking of having it done by Zee or Cruven but when it comes to old shocks i'd rather have them changed.

[niky]

Never cured that in the Sentra, either, eh? had to buy Parraults for our B14s (2000 models) because the stock shocks couldn't support lowering springs at all.

Still happy with the Lynx shocks... mmmmmhhhmmmm.. kahit stiff yung springs, well-controlled ang body-motion.

[squala]

Still happy with the Lynx shocks... mmmmmhhhmmmm.. kahit stiff yung springs, well-controlled ang body-motion.

Yeah, maybe part of the reason why the Lynx has class-leading handling is its suspension setup, though I'm not sure if the shocks can hold up long enough with lowering springs despite feeling sturdy. Well, there's Zee or Cruven anyway.

As for the Civic, it's quite clear that Honda didn't intend it to be a sports car anymore. I might have said this already before, but it's the family-orientedness of the Corolla that made it sell better worldwide. Yes, the current Civic is larger, more spacious and rides more softly, but the Altis has upped the notch even more, and many people get the Mazda 3 just for its sheer looks. The latest sales stats I know of showed that the Civic is already in 4th place. It's the Altis, 3 and Sentra, yes, Sentra ahead of it.