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    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    On Safety - if you want a safe car, get a Volvo!

    Pero seryosong usapan... Nung nagsimula akong magdrive, di required mag seat belt!
    Yung Tamaraw FX and mga Kia Pride namin lumabas sa casa nang walang seatbelt!
    Ang kotse lang namin noon na may seatbelt, 1991 Corolla (smal body) and box type.

    Kung ako tatanungin... basta may seatbelt (kasi kung wala pwede kang huliin).
    Limited budget, mas ok pa din yung pinaka bagong afford mo na kotse... Mas safe yun kesa sa public transport and motorcycle.

    On Repossed cars - as is condition yun.

    Swertehan lang.

    Bumili kami dati ng FX from Union Bank... nabarat namin ng husto kasi di umaandar, bale change engine agad pagdating sa bahay...

    Tapos ang daming maliliit na bagay ang nawawala... Head Unit, speakers, lock ng goove compartment. Pero since nasa public transport business kami noon, madali lang namin naayos yun... DI naman lahat ng repo ganun. May mga kilala akong nakabili from BPI and halos aircon and battery lang pinagawa/pinalitan nila.

    Both cars are fairly new, since manual naman ata tinitignan mo... aside from the regular stuff na masisira and sira na, I'm sure di ganun kahirap ayusin yan.

    Just a suggestion... Body and interior is very important. Yung suspension and engine pwede mong pagawa later.
    Yung interior and body nya looks good naman, fresh na fresh pa and mukang brand new pa naman.

    Actually boss, yun nga ang kinakatakot ko eh, baka lemon unit or nakahuyan na yung unit na mapunta sakin. As per seller kasi, hinatak daw yung car dahil hindi na nababayaran nung owner. Bayan seller kasi yung kukuhaan ko (Mars Autopick) and I ask him if may casa record yung unit, hindi daw nya alam or hindi pa nya nakita. Something like that.

    Kasali ako sa mga group sa facebook ng Hyundai Eon and Suzuki Celerio, naka-encounter ako dun ng isang member na binebenta or tinatrade yung mga stock parts nung unit nya dahil isusurrender na nya sa bank. Sayang daw kasi kung mapupunta lang sa banko.

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    #22
    Quote Originally Posted by jnsk View Post
    isang member na binebenta or tinatrade yung mga stock parts nung unit nya dahil isusurrender na nya sa bank. Sayang daw kasi kung mapupunta lang sa banko.
    normal yun sa repossessed...

    madalas kami noon mag ikot sa mga parking lot ng banks.

    madalas mismatch yung mga gulong, nawawala mga ilaw, radio and seats etc

    pero as I said, madami din naman maayos.

    At 200-250k more than 10 year old Toyota/Honda ang makikita mo.

    For a 2 year old car, basta umaandar, may AC and tumitigil kapag nag brakes ka... why not? unti unting lalabas problema nya and unti unti mo na lang ayusin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    normal yun sa repossessed...

    madalas kami noon mag ikot sa mga parking lot ng banks.

    madalas mismatch yung mga gulong, nawawala mga ilaw, radio and seats etc

    pero as I said, madami din naman maayos.

    At 200-250k more than 10 year old Toyota/Honda ang makikita mo.

    For a 2 year old car, basta umaandar, may AC and tumitigil kapag nag brakes ka... why not? unti unting lalabas problema nya and unti unti mo na lang ayusin.
    So okay lang naman siguro yung nakita kong offer from bayan seller no? 69k dp all in, 8.7k monthly for 3yrs or 7k for 4yrs.


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    Kung sakali bang 2nd hand unit yung makuha ko, dapat ba malaki yung budget ko for upcoming issues na pwede ko maencounter as time goes by para sa 2 years old car? How about maintenance? Can you give me some idea para mapaghandaan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnsk View Post
    Kung sakali bang 2nd hand unit yung makuha ko, dapat ba malaki yung budget ko for upcoming issues na pwede ko maencounter as time goes by para sa 2 years old car? How about maintenance? Can you give me some idea para mapaghandaan.
    As a general rule.
    Pag second hand, avoid hulugan. Bakit? Taas amort mo. Di mo pa tapos bayaran ang unit, namomroblema ka na sa pagawa.

    Depends on the car kung magkano ang spare budget na pagawa. Since ang tininitingnan mong unit is mga small cars, my guestimation would be around 50k na spare.

    Things to do after mo makuha. Change all fluids and filters kahit pa sinabi ma bagong palit. Well, kung may receipt naman to back it up (galing sa reputable shops) i guess kahit di lahat palitan.

    Next to go normally is suspension (shocks).
    Next is gulong since may 5 to 6 yrs lang ang lifespan ng mga gulong.
    And so on until magsawa ka... Heheheh

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    Quote Originally Posted by chronicle View Post
    As a general rule.
    Pag second hand, avoid hulugan. Bakit? Taas amort mo. Di mo pa tapos bayaran ang unit, namomroblema ka na sa pagawa.

    Depends on the car kung magkano ang spare budget na pagawa. Since ang tininitingnan mong unit is mga small cars, my guestimation would be around 50k na spare.

    Things to do after mo makuha. Change all fluids and filters kahit pa sinabi ma bagong palit. Well, kung may receipt naman to back it up (galing sa reputable shops) i guess kahit di lahat palitan.

    Next to go normally is suspension (shocks).
    Next is gulong since may 5 to 6 yrs lang ang lifespan ng mga gulong.
    And so on until magsawa ka... Heheheh

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    Sa 50k po ba is lahat na? O isang part lang ng unit?

    Make sense. Problema ko lang kasi eh ayoko sana isagad yung pera ko pambili ng 2nd hand unit in cash, kaya nagbabalak ako mag financing. If ever man yun nga, tinatarget ko is mga newer model to make sure na hindi sasakit ng todo yung ulo ko kakarepair.

    Napaisip ako dun sa madami nang pinagawa, pero di ka pa din tapos magbayad. Tumitingin din ako ng brand new na Celerio, someone quoted me with 130k dp (30%) and 9.8k monthly amo for M/T variant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnsk View Post
    Sa 50k po ba is lahat na? O isang part lang ng unit?

    Make sense. Problema ko lang kasi eh ayoko sana isagad yung pera ko pambili ng 2nd hand unit in cash, kaya nagbabalak ako mag financing. If ever man yun nga, tinatarget ko is mga newer model to make sure na hindi sasakit ng todo yung ulo ko kakarepair.

    Napaisip ako dun sa madami nang pinagawa, pero di ka pa din tapos magbayad. Tumitingin din ako ng brand new na Celerio, someone quoted me with 130k dp (30%) and 9.8k monthly amo for M/T variant.
    Depende sa ipapagawa. Yang 50k na yan can be anything.

    Kahit naman sa bnew, kelangan may budget ka pang maintenance sa casa kahit up to 10Tkm lang just to be safe para makita mo kung may pwede iwarranty.

    Wants vs needs. Kung di pa talaga kaya, wag muna. Otherwise, baka magaya ka lang dun sa mga na repo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chronicle View Post
    Depende sa ipapagawa. Yang 50k na yan can be anything.

    Kahit naman sa bnew, kelangan may budget ka pang maintenance sa casa kahit up to 10Tkm lang just to be safe para makita mo kung may pwede iwarranty.

    Wants vs needs. Kung di pa talaga kaya, wag muna. Otherwise, baka magaya ka lang dun sa mga na repo.

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    Malaking responsibility pala talaga when owning a car. Mukang mas kailangan ko pa ng time to think. Anyways, thanks sa mga insight sir. Really help a lot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnsk View Post
    So okay lang naman siguro yung nakita kong offer from bayan seller no? 69k dp all in, 8.7k monthly for 3yrs or 7k for 4yrs.


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    Hmmm... bale after 3 years 382,200 yung car + 20k/year est comprehensive insurance.

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    IMO... Kung kaya mo na bumili ng car and ok naman syo and sa wife mo yung tinigtignan ninyo...

    1. May garage ka ba? not only for coding days... pero for those days na 2 days or more na sira yung car at wala kang time pagawa. And may parking ka ba sa office?

    2. Small repairs, maganda matuto kang gumawa kahit konti (pero not required)

    3. Small car tinitignan mo, alamin mo limitations ng small car.

    First car ko in college was the box type. Ilang beses pinilit sa akin ng dad ko yung isang Corolla (small body namin) pero siguro bata pa ako noon and naiilang ako since Corolla/Pride mga taxi namin - hanggang ngayon natatawa ako na pinanindigan ko yung 82 box type vs 91 Corolla.

    Target mo for a used car is hindi ka ititirik, titigil pag tapak mo sa brakes and may A/C. Yung ibang naiisip mo (since limited budget) itabi mo muna. Once reliable na yung car magpapalit ka na nang tires and battery.

    Kahit anong pang kotse yan... mas safe pa din and comfortable yung may sarili ka kesa mag motorcycle ka or commute.

    Kapag mabuntis si misis and magsimula kayong mag pacheck up, malaking pasalamat mo na may car ka.

    Kapag mauna yung baby... malamang madelay yung car purchase mo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    IMO... Kung kaya mo na bumili ng car and ok naman syo and sa wife mo yung tinigtignan ninyo...

    1. May garage ka ba? not only for coding days... pero for those days na 2 days or more na sira yung car at wala kang time pagawa. And may parking ka ba sa office?

    2. Small repairs, maganda matuto kang gumawa kahit konti (pero not required)

    3. Small car tinitignan mo, alamin mo limitations ng small car.

    First car ko in college was the box type. Ilang beses pinilit sa akin ng dad ko yung isang Corolla (small body namin) pero siguro bata pa ako noon and naiilang ako since Corolla/Pride mga taxi namin - hanggang ngayon natatawa ako na pinanindigan ko yung 82 box type vs 91 Corolla.

    Target mo for a used car is hindi ka ititirik, titigil pag tapak mo sa brakes and may A/C. Yung ibang naiisip mo (since limited budget) itabi mo muna. Once reliable na yung car magpapalit ka na nang tires and battery.

    Kahit anong pang kotse yan... mas safe pa din and comfortable yung may sarili ka kesa mag motorcycle ka or commute.

    Kapag mabuntis si misis and magsimula kayong mag pacheck up, malaking pasalamat mo na may car ka.

    Kapag mauna yung baby... malamang madelay yung car purchase mo.
    Actually the main purpose of me getting a car is a comfort of having it compare to daily commute specially ngayon sa commonwealth na sobrang traffic, agawan lagi sa UV and BUS makasakay lang, and for my misis na din na gusto magtravel.

    1. Yes, meron naman, kaya mas prefer ko din ang small car para maliit lang din ang makain na space sa parking.

    2. I guess matutunan ko to as time goes by dahil sobrang mabutinting akong tao, willing din ako pagaralan yung iba't ibang bagay na kailangan matutunan sa oto kasi ayoko din dumating yung time na maloko ng mga mekaniko.

    3. Lagi kong tinatnaong sa sarili ko to kung bakit maliit na oto lang ang gusto ko aside from space saver, I guess hindi kasi ganun ka kumplikado yun ganun type, and attracted talaga ko sa toy cars, lalo na yung mini cooper. Isa sa dahilan ko ba't small car ang gusto kong kunin is because, maliit akong tao. Hahahaha!

    Yan din yung nasa isip ko, iset-aside muna yung mga hindi pa naman nangyayari. Kay lang hindi talaga mawala sa isip ko yung ibang mga possible na mangyari, kaya as much as possible gusto ko maging ready.

    Pero honestly, nawawalan talaga ko ng pagasa kumuha ng 2nd hand unit everytime na iniisip kong dapat may budget dapat ako in the near future for repairs. Baka masayang lang yung unit na kukunin ko.

    Ayoko naman din ng motorcycle dahil sa commonwealth ako madalas bumabyahe. Baka isa isang maputol yung body parts ko pag nag motor.

    Nappreciate ko yung importance ng pagkakaroon ng sariling oto nung nagkasakit at nawala yung dad ko. They always suffering from getting a taxi or grab, yung iba maarte pa dahil may sakit, ayaw isakay. Kaya narealize ko na sana may sarili kaming oto, I rather sacrifice my work para lang mahatid sila sa ospital.

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    Dun ka na sa celerio.. masyadong maliit yung eon.. or kung kaya ng budget suzuki swift.

    Kung hyundai naman try mo humanap nung grand i10. Mas malapad yun.

    Masarap daily drive ang small cars lalo na pag automatic.. comfortable na din naman para sa akin

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    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    Dun ka na sa celerio.. masyadong maliit yung eon.. or kung kaya ng budget suzuki swift.

    Kung hyundai naman try mo humanap nung grand i10. Mas malapad yun.

    Masarap daily drive ang small cars lalo na pag automatic.. comfortable na din naman para sa akin
    Problema lang, masyado mahal yung matic ng Celerio. Di ko naman trip yung porma ng Grand i10. May mga iilan akong nakikita ng swift pero mataas na masyado yung price.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jnsk View Post
    Problema lang, masyado mahal yung matic ng Celerio. Di ko naman trip yung porma ng Grand i10. May mga iilan akong nakikita ng swift pero mataas na masyado yung price.


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    my advice to myself is,
    buy the more expensive. they will probably cause less headaches in the foreseeable future.
    used cars are cheap, for a good reason. i would not want to be the one to find out what that reason is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnsk View Post
    Sobrang ingay ba nung kay Eon? Ilan KM/L si Celerio mo sir?
    Hindi naman parang diesel hehe. Yung celerio kasi comparable sa engine noise ng normal na 4 cylinder. Yung eon medyo maingay pero tingin ko normal lang kasi entry level car lang at yung sound deadening hindi ganon kaganda.. pero ok naman. umaabot naman ng 130kph.

    Celerio 13-15kms/L city long drive 18-20kms/L

    Si eon nasa 12 t0 15kms/L city minsan mas masama pag puno kayo kasi pwersado. sa long drive di ko na fulltank test eh.

    Sa handling si Celerio kayang-kaya ang twisties ng kenon at tagaytay talisay road hindi parang tataob pag banking mo. kapit na kapit. si eon medyo alangan ako.

    Mas mura din parts ng celerio kesa sa eon. SP, filter, oilfilter and etc. pati pms mas mura ang suzuki kesa hyundai

    Kung ako sayo, hintay hintay ka nalang. accent nalang kunin mo. mas sulit ang pera. konti nalang naman.

    Kaya ko nasabi to 5 kasi auto sa bahay. 1 kay erpat 2 sa sister ko at 2 sakin.

    1. Avanza - matagtag pag 2 lang kayo sakay.
    2. Eon - masikip. pang single lang hehe pero maluwag ang trunk, pwede tambakan ng gamit
    3. Celerio - Maluwag sa harap pero masikip sa likod. pwede na sa magasawa na may isang anak. ksaya stroller ng baya sa likod.
    4. Accent - eto medyo solid na to. matulin, maganda handling, maluwag, matipid sa gas sa class nya.
    5. Vitara - pinaka pogi sa lahat.

    hope this helps

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    i still don't see your logic in insisting on a small car. eh meron ka naman palang parking space. so what space are you trying to save?

    and these micro cars aren't any less complex than sub-compacts

    when you buy furniture or appliance, will it fit in your micro car? suppose you have 4 people onboard and go shopping. walang nang space

    travel ba gusto ng wife? the micro-car won't swallow your luggage on the way to the airport

    your best bet is still to get an older sub-compact. one with complete maintenance records. then look at the tires. if cheap china tires then the owner is a cheap mofo who skimped on everything. kung michelin or pirelli bilin mo na

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    TS issue is not the actual car choice but more of funds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chronicle View Post
    TS issue is not the actual car choice but more of funds.

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    Yea. That’s why I’m opting for 2nd hand unit thru financing.


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    i think it might be difficult to find a financier for this type of undertaking...
    Last edited by dr. d; March 13th, 2019 at 12:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vodka View Post
    i still don't see your logic in insisting on a small car. eh meron ka naman palang parking space. so what space are you trying to save?

    and these micro cars aren't any less complex than sub-compacts

    when you buy furniture or appliance, will it fit in your micro car? suppose you have 4 people onboard and go shopping. walang nang space

    travel ba gusto ng wife? the micro-car won't swallow your luggage on the way to the airport

    your best bet is still to get an older sub-compact. one with complete maintenance records. then look at the tires. if cheap china tires then the owner is a cheap mofo who skimped on everything. kung michelin or pirelli bilin mo na
    I just don’t feel owning a bigger car. Besides, we already have L300 which is for family, and a motorcycle for palengke use.

    Small car is okay for me kasi di pa naman ako ganun karuning pagdating sa oto. Kumbaga basic car lang na pwede namin magamit sa work and konting out of town.

    Ayoko din maghangad ng medyo malaking oto kasi baka mahirapan lang din ako. Ewan ko, basta sabi ng puso ko hatchbacks lang sapat na. [emoji23]


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