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    #1
    Hi everyone. Planning to transition from Civic FD to a CUV.
    At 700-750k budget, what would you guys recommend?
    This will be used as my daily driver Las Pinas to BGC after this pandemic.

    Currently in the market scanning 2016 CR-V, CX-5 and Forester.

    Things to consider:
    1. Mostly solo passenger
    2. 6 ft driver
    3. Easy and cheap to maintain
    4. AT and good FC
    5. Good resale value

    Thanks in advance!


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    Find a Forester XT if you can. It’s quick, fast, comfortable to ride, and with a big trunk. For maintenance, just bring it to GAT Performance in BF Homes Paranaque.

    We have practically the same route. My office is also in BGC.


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    I'd go with the Honda or Mazda just because they still use traditional Automatic Transmission. It may be more reliable and is definitely cheaper to repair/replace than a CVT.
    I believe the current gen CRV 2.0 Gas is already using CVT but the diesel is still standard torque converter.

    If you want the fastest among the bunch, definitely forget about the transmission arguement and go with the Forester XT. Is is also the most spacious among the 3, especially in the front seats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tool_46n2 View Post
    I'd go with the Honda or Mazda just because they still use traditional Automatic Transmission. It may be more reliable and is definitely cheaper to repair/replace than a CVT.
    I believe the current gen CRV 2.0 Gas is already using CVT but the diesel is still standard torque converter.

    If you want the fastest among the bunch, definitely forget about the transmission arguement and go with the Forester XT. Is is also the most spacious among the 3, especially in the front seats.
    +100000000000 on this advice.[emoji106]
    Managed to steer clear of brand new CVTs....Used? I'll stay even farther away. Wear is irreversible & they're non-rebuildable. I'd be more at peace w/ something manageably fixable longterm.

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    why not consider toyota rav4 on your list? Or maybe a fortuner (basically a jacked up innova also seats 7-8.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by thearsenal1205 View Post
    why not consider toyota rav4 on your list? Or maybe a fortuner (basically a jacked up innova also seats 7-8.)
    Good USED options....all nonCVT.[emoji106]

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    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    Good USED options....all nonCVT.[emoji106]

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    and it's have a diesel option (fortuner/innova)
    also there's the toyota rush in the used market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thearsenal1205 View Post
    why not consider toyota rav4 on your list? Or maybe a fortuner (basically a jacked up innova also seats 7-8.)

    Heaven forbid ... only a Subaru Forester will suffice ... it's the best ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    It maybe the bandwagon now but the same was said of AT trannies of old.

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    this reminds me of the old 80's.
    The perception of mechanics and older people that time is that any Automatic transmission costs a huge arm and a leg to maintain and service.

    But for the TS choices.

    Why not opted for a 2nd hand Fortuner or a second hand Hilux pick up instead. they have excellent resale value, very good FC, traditional A/T, big enough for 6 ft persons, great for out of town trips.
    you do sacrifice that with a more jarring ride.

    My personal choice thou is the Subaru Forester XT. If your all alone driving, its best to have a car that you could enjoy and have fun with. For that the Forester XT is better than the rest. my personal opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tool_46n2 View Post
    I'd go with the Honda or Mazda just because they still use traditional Automatic Transmission. It may be more reliable and is definitely cheaper to repair/replace than a CVT.
    I believe the current gen CRV 2.0 Gas is already using CVT but the diesel is still standard torque converter.

    If you want the fastest among the bunch, definitely forget about the transmission arguement and go with the Forester XT. Is is also the most spacious among the 3, especially in the front seats.
    Re: traditional AT - Are you referring to the 2016 model of the CR-V and CX-5?

    On Forester - are you talking about the 2016 FXT?

    Sorry for asking these because price is a major consideration

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renzokuken View Post
    Re: traditional AT - Are you referring to the 2016 model of the CR-V and CX-5?

    On Forester - are you talking about the 2016 FXT?

    Sorry for asking these because price is a major consideration

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    Mazda has always been traditional AT. I think they said that they will stick with it and never dabble with CVT or even DCT.

    Previous gen CR-V was still using standard AT. Current gen CR-V 2.0 is already CVT, but the 1.6T diesel is the 9-speed AT

    Previous gen Forester was the 1st one to use CVT, I think. Even the Forester XT used CVT, just a higher spec version to handle the increased torque.

    I have a strong belief for the standard AT ever since BMW M cars started switching from DCT to 8/9speed ZF transmission. (Probably the best transmission overall right now in an Internal Combusion engine).
    VolkswagenAudi has traditionally been pushing for DCT in all of their cars, and then came up with the Lamborhini Urus which uses the famed ZF 8speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tool_46n2 View Post
    Mazda has always been traditional AT. I think they said that they will stick with it and never dabble with CVT or even DCT.

    Previous gen CR-V was still using standard AT. Current gen CR-V 2.0 is already CVT, but the 1.6T diesel is the 9-speed AT

    Previous gen Forester was the 1st one to use CVT, I think. Even the Forester XT used CVT, just a higher spec version to handle the increased torque.

    I have a strong belief for the standard AT ever since BMW M cars started switching from DCT to 8/9speed ZF transmission. (Probably the best transmission overall right now in an Internal Combusion engine).
    VolkswagenAudi has traditionally been pushing for DCT in all of their cars, and then came up with the Lamborhini Urus which uses the famed ZF 8speed.
    Well, even ZF couldn't make BMW stick w/ its CVT offering in their R50. Catastrophic failure! They swore never again.
    BMW had to go Aisin AT for the MINI.

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    Wala nama sa considerarion yung matulin at comfortabke. Saka sa Las Piñas- BGC na ruta, hindi kailangan ng matulin na sasakyan dyan. 80% mabigat daloy ng trapiko.

    Sa Cr-V ako, or kung practical ka na tao, MPV bibilhin ko, Innova.

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    it's nice to know that your car is fast, even as you have no opportunity to show it.
    "bragging rights."
    use it as a tie-braker, if you will.

    but yes,
    for plain practicality,
    go innova.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    it's nice to know that your car is fast, even as you have no opportunity to show it.
    "bragging rights."
    use it as a tie-braker, if you will.

    but yes,
    for plain practicality,
    go innova.
    Doc, Let me drive your Toyota and you might turn your knuckles white holding the dash. Hahahaha

    Our slow Jetta TDI can still go fast with me on the wheel. With Jut on the wheel, you might just be scared sh&tless. Hehehehe

    The Innova is the practical choice for a family ride but it lacks the oomph. A CUV is a better choice for singles who want an all-around vehicle or for couples who likes road trips or for families with just 2 kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    Doc, Let me drive your Toyota and you might turn your knuckles white holding the dash. Hahahaha

    Our slow Jetta TDI can still go fast with me on the wheel. With Jut on the wheel, you might just be scared sh&tless. Hehehehe

    The Innova is the practical choice for a family ride but it lacks the oomph. A CUV is a better choice for singles who want an all-around vehicle or for couples who likes road trips or for families with just 2 kids.

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    Taga Las Pinas ka din? Kasi kung Las Pinas, baka zapote alabamg road tapos NaiaX amg daan, eh 60kph lang spwed limit dun diba?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TsekwangBakla View Post
    Okay sir.

    Solo passenger, LPC- BGC, Doble ba yung space ng Forester sa CRV?


    Again, wala naman yata sa main concern nya yung napakatulin na kotse. Yung Crv ba hindi kaya tumakbo ng katulad ng Firester mo?
    I didn’t say twice the space. You get more usable space due to the box dimension of the trunk of the Forester.

    If you can add the performance part to your choice, i guess it’s a good deal since a Forester or CRV are priced the same on the used market.

    The Forester XT is the quickest among the affordable CUVs, not sure if the fastest but it can do 220kmh on open roads. Subaru made the Forester XT as its performance option. If you don’t want a quick one, you can always opt for the standard Forester NA.

    Quote Originally Posted by TsekwangBakla View Post
    Taga Las Pinas ka din? Kasi kung Las Pinas, baka zapote alabamg road tapos NaiaX amg daan, eh 60kph lang spwed limit dun diba?
    I said the same area. I live in Paranaque. I take SLEX daily to work. When traffic is light, you can easily do 150kmh or faster within the Sucat-Nichols stretch.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TsekwangBakla View Post
    Wala nama sa considerarion yung matulin at comfortabke. Saka sa Las Piñas- BGC na ruta, hindi kailangan ng matulin na sasakyan dyan. 80% mabigat daloy ng trapiko.

    Sa Cr-V ako, or kung practical ka na tao, MPV bibilhin ko, Innova.
    I take SLEX daily from Paranaque to BGC. I can go pedal to the metal on usual traffic unless on freak days where it is bumper to bumper when passing thru Bicutan exit.

    A comfortable car to drive is a blessing for passengers plus a big trunk is useful on road trips.

    I will not trade my Forester XT with a CRV or CX5 or Xtrail or Tucson or Sportage. Yes it’s true I like to drive fast as I have no time to wait for slow people on the road. I just pass them quickly and go on my merry way.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    I take SLEX daily from Paranaque to BGC. I can go pedal to the metal on usual traffic unless on freak days where it is bumper to bumper when passing thru Bicutan exit.

    A comfortable car to drive is a blessing for passengers plus a big trunk is useful on road trips.

    I will not trade my Forester XT with a CRV or CX5 or Xtrail or Tucson or Sportage. Yes it’s true I like to drive fast as I have no time to wait for slow people on the road. I just pass them quickly and go on my merry way.


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    Okay sir.

    Solo passenger, LPC- BGC, Doble ba yung space ng Forester sa CRV?


    Again, wala naman yata sa main concern nya yung napakatulin na kotse. Yung Crv ba hindi kaya tumakbo ng katulad ng Firester mo?

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    Thanks for your replies.

    Whether via Cavitex or Skyway, can definitely make use of the speed. Also I go out of town every once in a while. Although speed is not a top priority, its nice to have.

    I know practicality wise Innova may be the best choice but it is currently not my in list of options. When I have kids and family in the future maybe then it will be an option.

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