Most fuel efficient sub compact automatic

[parak21]

Dear all,

I am buying a vehicle. I just need inputs on which cars on the narket is the most fuel efficient.

Take note, for CITY DRIVING ONLY

car must be AUTOMATIC.

accent crdi a/t
Vios 1.3e
Mirage glx cvt
City 1.3s

Will they have the same figures for city driving? Like edsa type or traffic.

[Walter]

Obviously, the diesel Accent would be the most cost efficient when it comes to fuel.

[ghosthunter]

Dear all,

I am buying a vehicle. I just need inputs on which cars on the narket is the most fuel efficient.

Take note, for CITY DRIVING ONLY

car must be AUTOMATIC.

accent crdi a/t
Vios 1.3e
Mirage glx cvt
City 1.3s

Will they have the same figures for city driving? Like edsa type or traffic.

Most would say Accent diesel would be the best option.

But I would differ on that becuse the purchase price of the Accent diesel is P868,000.

Compare to something more affordable like the MIRAGE GLX CVT P548,000.

That is a difference of P320,000

That can buy a lot of fuel.

In fact it is enough to fill the MIRAGE's fuel tank for around four years.

So if you consider that, the MIRAGE already has a FOUR year head start on being more economical on fuel.

If we would consider the price difference between gas and diesel, then the MIRAGE would even be much more ahead in cost savings.

[renzo_d10]

Isa pa yung maintenance cost, mahal magmaintain ng CRDi vs. gas

[s10pao]

If we would consider the price difference between gas and diesel, then the MIRAGE would even be much more ahead in cost savings.

sir can you further elaborate on this?

[niky]

In city driving, the 1.3 liter engines in the Vios and the City don't seem well suited to the drag of the transmissions. Some even claim that they drink more gas than the 1.5 ATs, though when I've driven them, I found them to still be slightly more economical. It all depends on driving style. Suffice to say, they're not the most economical picks amongst your choices.

The Mirage CVT is pretty good, and it's a light car, so economy is decent even with the auto in traffic.. The Accent diesel is pretty decent, though I haven't driven it in heavy traffic, so I can't comment on city use.

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And GH makes an excellent point. With what the Mirage GLX CVT costs versus the Accent diesel, you can buy a whole crapload of gas.

[ghosthunter]

sir can you further elaborate on this?

The following will not be 100% accurate but hopefully it would show my point.

Assuming the Accent CRDi and MIRAGE CVT gets around the same fuel mileage from their respective fuels.

Gasoline = approximately P52/L

Diesel = approximately P43/L

Fuel cost difference = P9/L

Purchase price difference between Accent and Mirage = P320,000

320,000 / 9 = 35,555.56

Mirage has a 30L fuel tank.

35,555.56 / 30 = 1185.19 full tanks for the MIRAGE.

Assuming one full tank per week = 296.30 months or 24 years

The Accent CRDI would need 24 years before the PURCHASE cost difference between the Accent / Mirage would catch up with the Mirage based on fuel savings on diesel vs gasoline.

[basti08]

My Mirage CVT feels just a bit more efficient than my 2010 Vios 1.5G AT. Now that I experienced both, I'm more inclined to suggesting a 1.5L Vios AT. Although, the Vios 1.3L AT is indeed a bit more economical than a 1.5G AT during city traffic driving, during normal driving conditions, the 1.5L AT is still way better. That is, taken into consideration that you are travelling with passengers, with bit of highway driving where power and economy balance is important. The 1.5L is still better. Tried a real world driving (no eco style, hataw pag pwede) with a 1.3L AT convoy (with me using my 1.5G AT) to Tagaytay and the 1.3L ending up consuming almost same. With the 1.3L struggling to keep up in the inclines. I hope you get what I mean.

[170kphlang]

ang malaking advantage ng accent crdi ay whether eco or spirited driving ka, hindi ka nagwoworry sa fuel consumption

[s10pao]

The following will not be 100% accurate but hopefully it would show my point.

Assuming the Accent CRDi and MIRAGE CVT gets around the same fuel mileage from their respective fuels.

Gasoline = approximately P52/L

Diesel = approximately P43/L

Fuel cost difference = P9/L

Purchase price difference between Accent and Mirage = P320,000

320,000 / 9 = 35,555.56

Mirage has a 30L fuel tank.

35,555.56 / 30 = 1185.19 full tanks for the MIRAGE.

Assuming one full tank per week = 296.30 months or 24 years

The Accent CRDI would need 24 years before the PURCHASE cost difference between the Accent / Mirage would catch up with the Mirage based on fuel savings on diesel vs gasoline.

thanks GH!

here's how i computed it

Assumptions:
12T Km per year
Php52/L gasoline
Php43/L gasoline

12KPL Accent HB
10KPL Mirage

Annual fuel cost for Accent HB
12,000/12*43 = Php43,000 per year

Annual fuel cost for Mirage
12,000/10*52 = Php64,200 per year

Annual fuel cost difference
Php19,400

Years to recover price difference
320,00/19,400 = 16.49484536

[ghosthunter]

thanks GH!

here's how i computed it

Assumptions:
12T Km per year
Php52/L gasoline
Php43/L gasoline

12KPL Accent HB
10KPL Mirage

Annual fuel cost for Accent HB
12,000/12*43 = Php43,000 per year

Annual fuel cost for Mirage
12,000/10*52 = Php64,200 per year

Annual fuel cost difference
Php19,400

Years to recover price difference
320,00/19,400 = 16.49484536

With whatever computation (I did say my computation isn't accurate but enough to show my point) to see any benefit from the Accent's CRDi engine vs the Mirage 1.2L CVT, it would still take over ten years of driving the car.

[basti08]

ang malaking advantage ng accent crdi ay whether eco or spirited driving ka, hindi ka nagwoworry sa fuel consumption

Correct!

#tooshort

[dr. d]

taking a different view..
the fuel efficiency of the diesels is not my reason for favoring them.
i favor diesels because of their relative water resistance. bahain samin, e.
the fuel savings is a bonus.
my 88 centavos' worth..

[ghosthunter]

taking a different view..
the fuel efficiency of the diesels is not my reason for favoring them.
i favor diesels because of their relative water resistance. bahain samin, e.
the fuel savings is a bonus.
my 88 centavos' worth..

BTW, modern diesels still have electronics. Get them wet and it still stalls.

BTT the topic is "Most fuel efficient sub compact automatic"...

My answer include the whole cost of buying and fueling the car, hence the answer is the MIRAGE is the better choice.

[e2romo]

The computation that factors in the price of the car would be total cost of ownership. If TS is only interested in the fuel economy then he just need the real world km/liter reading of the car. But total cost of ownership is the more logical way to look at costs savings.

To make the total cost of ownership more accurate you'll have to factor in also the maintenance costs. Like in Hyundai forum they said you have to go for maintenance every 3 months or they will void the warranty, hence you have a quarterly recurring expense.

Sent from my mind using Telepathy 2

[xander1925]

My Accent in Heavy Traffic averages from 10-11km/L.. Base on manual full tanks

When i say Heavy traffic it's 1 1/2 Hr of travel

When it's not traffic, it's 15-20 minutes..

[Densker]

Mirage CVT vs Accent diesel A/T na pala ito.

Mirage na lang ako.

1. mas mataas price ng hyundai ng 300k ( approx 6,000L of fuel na yan)
2. panget yung backseat ng accent
3 mahal maintenance ng crdi
4 maikli interval ng preventive maintenance ng hyundai (5 years pa kung ayaw mo ma void ang warranty).
5. mahirap mag pa warranty sa hyundai kapag may kamahalan ang nasirang part sa kotse.
6. mas mataas ang insurance ng accent. malaking bagay ito lalo na kung 5 years to pay .

[dr. d]

Mirage CVT vs Accent diesel A/T na pala ito.

Mirage na lang ako.

1. mas mataas price ng hyundai ng 300k ( approx 6,000L of fuel na yan)
2. panget yung backseat ng accent
3 mahal maintenance ng crdi
4 maikli interval ng preventive maintenance ng hyundai (5 years pa kung ayaw mo ma void ang warranty).
5. mahirap mag pa warranty sa hyundai kapag may kamahalan ang nasirang part sa kotse.
6. mas mataas ang insurance ng accent. malaking bagay ito lalo na kung 5 years to pay .

question... just what is warrantied for 5 years, by hyundai? is it to include everything except the "wear and tear" items?
so what is the #5 above, all about? they actually deny warranty for the more expensive parts? isn't that partially digested grass?

[Syuryuken]

ang tinatanong lang naman ng TS kung ano ang mas fuel efficient a

[yebo]

they actually deny warranty for the more expensive parts?

YES.

too short