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    Hi all, I'm in the market for a new car and would like to "future-proof" my setup hehehe. Wife and I are thinking of getting a 7-seater when we decide to expand our family of two. Since her family doesn't have a car and nagsisikan sila sa likod ng 2010 Honda City ko, we also want enough room for them when going on trips. So here's the main things we're looking for:

    A. Diesel (unless you can make a case for a gas SUV/MPV)
    B. Good aircon
    C. Budget of 1.5M or 25k to 30k per month for 5 years
    D. Mostly city driving so dapat enjoy i-drive kahit traffic
    E. decent space for people and stuff.
    F. Matic

    Here's a shortlist so far:

    1. Volkswagen Touran
    + Euro (mababaw na reason, but I've always wanted a European car)
    + Enticing safety features.
    + Cruise control!
    - A little above budget yung TDI variant
    - Wife thinks mainit sa mata even though mundane ang design
    - Baka taga sa maintenance at mahirap maghanap ng mechanic for it after warranty.
    +/- No idea what manual aircon means

    2. Isuzu mu-X
    +/- Popular so madaming kapareho pero ibig sabihin baka maganda demand ng parts at mechanics
    + Wife really loves the look
    +/- Push start
    + Nice entertainment system
    - less safety features (relatively speaking)

    3. Kia Carens
    + Some say it's better than the Touran, no idea
    - least features of the 3
    +/- again, what does manuel aircon?

    4. Any other suggestion na hindi Innova / Avanza - no offense sa 2, pero I feel lazy just picking those two. Bang for the buck I know, pero if I can afford a little more to get something slightly unique or better why not diba? At least at the end of the day, kung wala talaga Innova na. As for Ford or Chevy, medyo same issues with VW and I've heard (alam mo naman tayong mga pinoy with hearsay) na may issues daw sa quality mga American cars. Pero I'm open naman to it, if my fears can be eased or something to that extent.

    Yun lang po, sana pa makakuha kahit konting tulong at wisdom. Thank you all!

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    You have a nice budget there. And it would be wise to also include the all new fortuner, all new montero and all new everest in your shortlist. All are jn the same league as the MU-X and are newer and offer more advanced technology. I would skip your choices and actually pick from this triumvirate.


    The all new innova is also launching soon and that is a much better vehicle than the existing one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EQAddict View Post
    You have a nice budget there. And it would be wise to also include the all new fortuner, all new montero and all new everest in your shortlist. All are jn the same league as the MU-X and are newer and offer more advanced technology. I would skip your choices and actually pick from this triumvirate.


    The all new innova is also launching soon and that is a much better vehicle than the existing one.
    Salamat sa feedback sir! Will definitely consider those options as well pero may questions lang po

    Ford Everest - okay ba ang non-casa maintenance nya? Yun lang naman talaga kinakatakutan ko sa American cars.

    Fortuner - not a fan, bad enough na gobyerno ako, tapos Fortuner. Parang mali dating and mas mainit sa mata.

    Montero - probably not the place for this, but the issues about the unintended acceleration makes me uneasy.

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    For the choices stated my vote goes to the Mux.

    Regarding manual aircon, it just means yung traditional type na nasa majority ng cars na walang climate control kasi you will be the one adjusting the thermostat

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    Quote Originally Posted by coydeleon View Post
    Ford Everest - okay ba ang non-casa maintenance nya? Yun lang naman talaga kinakatakutan ko sa American cars.
    For brand new if you want to save your warranty, wala ka naman choice

    Quote Originally Posted by coydeleon View Post
    Fortuner - not a fan, bad enough na gobyerno ako, tapos Fortuner. Parang mali dating and mas mainit sa mata.
    Why what's wrong if you're from the govt and naka Fortuner ka?

    Quote Originally Posted by coydeleon View Post
    Montero - probably not the place for this, but the issues about the unintended acceleration makes me uneasy.
    Can't blame you, nagkaron na ng bad stigma eh, but for me hindi ako papaapekto dyan. but thats me

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    Quote Originally Posted by jodski View Post
    For the choices stated my vote goes to the Mux.

    Regarding manual aircon, it just means yung traditional type na nasa majority ng cars na walang climate control kasi you will be the one adjusting the thermostat

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    Oh, is climate control a big deal? Never owned or driven a car with one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coydeleon View Post
    Oh, is climate control a big deal? Never owned or driven a car with one.
    Not a big deal naman.

    Yan yung tipong i set mo lang gusto mo na temp and bahala na sya mag adjust ng thermostat and in some cases opening and closing the fresh air vent (if available sa unit) para masunod lang yung temp setting na pinili mo.

    At least dyan sa mux madami na rin today. Pinuntahan ko rin yang path na kumuha ng car na kokonti lang sa daan (mazda 323 gen 1). Nung nagkahirapan na sa parts naging money pit na sa repairs, kaya i had to put it away muna as a toy car na lang

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    Quote Originally Posted by cast_no_shadow View Post
    For brand new if you want to save your warranty, wala ka naman choice
    lol, pagkatapos ng warranty syempre tingin na sa iba. Unless di kasing taga ng Honda ang Ford, which I doubt.

    Why what's wrong if you're from the govt and naka Fortuner ka?
    May stigma na sa akin na Fortuner = Politician. I mean, can't go wrong with a Fortuner obviously but it's a bit too much personally. (So is a Euro, pero dream ko talaga magka Euro)

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    Quote Originally Posted by coydeleon View Post
    Fortuner - not a fan, bad enough na gobyerno ako, tapos Fortuner. Parang mali dating and mas mainit sa mata.
    if it's your money, not tax payer's, nothing to be apprehensive about. i drive a fortuner. it isn't in the same category as the Prado or the LC. just because we are public servants it doesn't mean we should look like paupers. our laws only mandate that we lead modest lives.

    get the fort or everest or the montero if you like it and if it's well within your budget. let the office envious die of envy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Martinez View Post
    if it's your money, not tax payer's, nothing to be apprehensive about. i drive a fortuner. it isn't in the same category as the Prado or the LC. just because we are public servants it doesn't mean we should look like paupers. our laws only mandate that we lead modest lives.

    get the fort or everest or the montero if you like it and if it's well within your budget. let the office envious die of envy.
    Same thoughts Atty, at the end of the day you can't please everybody and who says that we should?

    And it's a Fortuner (no pun intended BTW). As long as my conscience is clear then screw other peoples malice, maglaway kayo pinaghirapan ko ito!

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    Ayaw mo both 2016 Fort and Montero? If i were you I'd go for the 3.0 MU-X.


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    About the Touran, VW came out with a newer version this year. Baka yung available model dito is the last generation.

    If future proofing is what you want, you can't go wrong with the incoming Fortuner.

    Besides, it's not looked upon highly as much as when it first came out, image wise. The FJ Cruiser took that spot already

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    If you want future proof, cross out the volks. Yung marami sa kalsada piliin mo kung yan ang first requirement

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    Salamat sa mga insight. New short list:

    1. Ford Everest Trend 2.2L 4x2 AT
    2. Isuzu mu-X 3.0 VGS LS-A 4x2 AT
    3. Ford Everest Trend 2.2L 4x2 AT

    I guess at this point ang usapan boils down to fuel economy, safety, leg space ng 3rd row, cargo space and ano mas enjoy i-drive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dct View Post
    If you want future proof, cross out the volks. Yung marami sa kalsada piliin mo kung yan ang first requirement
    +1000
    the less you see them on the road the less likely you will find parts in banawe nor find mechanics who know and have the tools to fix it. acceptable ba sa iyo yung prices ng spare parts sa casa, at ano ang lead time pag nag-order ka? baka masira tapos 2 months bago dumating ang part e di commute ka ng 2 buwan.

    why not the fortuner or new montero? yung lumang montero lang naman (2012 and below?) ang may issues e. and bakit naman hindi pwede ang fortuner sa gov't official basta ba pera mo pinambili mo paki ba nila.
    mux, well read the reviews. mixed reviews sa exterior and most do not like the interior.

    when i look for a vehicle what i do is i visit the dealership at least twice and sit inside the vehicle a long time, trying all the seats - driver, passenger, 2nd row, 3rd row. tingin din sa cargo space. tapos babalik ulit ako and do it again, baka may hindi ako nakita the first time. it is something you will have for a long time so para ka din bumili ng bahay, dapat all the rooms are to your liking. pati maid's room, and not because maganda si inday (pangit lahat ang kinukuha na maid ni misis )

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    Quote Originally Posted by cast_no_shadow View Post
    Same thoughts Atty, at the end of the day you can't please everybody and who says that we should?

    And it's a Fortuner (no pun intended BTW). As long as my conscience is clear then screw other peoples malice, maglaway kayo pinaghirapan ko ito!
    a move from a 5 seat sedan to a 7 seat vehicle is good enough for your requirements? (kasi sabi mo nag sisiksikan)

    then my vote, toyota innova...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stigg ma View Post
    a move from a 5 seat sedan to a 7 seat vehicle is good enough for your requirements? (kasi sabi mo nag sisiksikan)

    then my vote, toyota innova...
    Oo nga. 2 seats lang ang dumagdag. Baka starex o hiace ang kailangan mo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dct View Post
    Oo nga. 2 seats lang ang dumagdag. Baka starex o hiace ang kailangan mo?
    Di naman parati magagamit yung 2 extra seats. Madalas 2 lang kami mag-asawa, and at least kung magka baby ready na for yaya, baby, stroller etc. And kung sasama mga in-laws, kaysa pa naman sila since 7 lang kami max.

    Also, wala pa ako sa mentality na ok lang walang konting papogi ang sasakyan :P. Gotta be real, want a little flair with my utility. Maybe way into the future ko iisipin yang Starex pag medyo lampas na ako sa complex ko lol

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    I like the exterior looks of the MUX. It is not flashy or uber modern but it seems that that look will never go old.

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    MUX will age well. I bet isuzu will still be selling it on 2026 with new variants such as the Isuzu MUX Platinum Ultra Limited Edition Sport Plus but still with a 90s spec 3.0 diesel.

    Anyway, its a good choice as its not flashy but very reliable.

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