First time to drive and first car.

[renzo_d10]

Kaya nga.

Yung Smart car na pagkaliit liit eh sobrang safe.

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[Silaar]

Kaya nga.

Yung Smart car na pagkaliit liit eh sobrang safe.

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Size doesn't matter as much as strength. The Mirage is projected to get five stars on the NCAP tests.

A "small" car that gets five stars will keep you alive better in a collision than an AUV that won't even get two stars, or an older "compact" that gets three.

Really?! Parang pagong (animal) pala siya.. hehe.. btw I apologized for my ignorance anyway,edi yan na ang pinaka matipid sa mga subcompact cars. I think I'll look it up in the net for more reviews and thanks for enlightening me

[Egan101]

An officemate got his Mirage end of November. He got the GLS MT model. After 3 weeks of use, he mentioned he was averaging 18 Km/L FC on city driving (normal weekday route of QC to Taguig).

[Silaar]

I guess 18km/L FC is great? Hehe.. matanong narin pala.. paano momaconsider na maganda ang FC mo? Ilan ba ang averange o pinakamababa na FC pag compact sedan, subcompact at SUVs?

Anyway, Altis na ba ang may pinaka maganda FC sa mga kasabayan niyang models sa mga compact sedans?

[jonski]

Ayos na ayos 18km/l na FC. Sakin 4km/l FC sa Expedition namin and masaya na ako kapag naka 5 na ako. Siguro kapag average mo ay 9km/l ay sulit na yan sa compact sedan.

[Egan101]

Most will say that the Altis and Civic of the same age as the Sentra N16 will do 10-11 Km/L on city driving. The MT models will do better compared to their AT counterparts. The Sentra N16 gets lower FC values (8-9 Km/L). The Lancer Cedia of the same age even gets lower FC (6-8 Km/L). Most compacts nowadays average the same figures (8-10 Km/L). Subcompacts (City, Jazz, Vios, etc) do much better in FC (10-12 km/L) while midsize cars (Accord, Camry, Galant, Mazda6) do around 6-8 Km/L. I am not sure about the FC of compact gas SUVs (Xtrail, Escape, Tribute, CRV, etc) but I do hear complaints of poor FC from friends who own 2nd gen CRVs only doing 5-6 Km/L. You can check in other forums regarding FC of the more common diesel SUVs (Fortuner, Montero Sport, Everest, Santa Fe, Sorento).

[GTi]

I guess 18km/L FC is great? Hehe.. matanong narin pala.. paano momaconsider na maganda ang FC mo? Ilan ba ang averange o pinakamababa na FC pag compact sedan, subcompact at SUVs?

Anyway, Altis na ba ang may pinaka maganda FC sa mga kasabayan niyang models sa mga compact sedans?

Mataas na yang 18km/L bro. Halos imposible na umabot nun lalo na sa city driving. Gas mileage varies greatly from car to car, in different driving environments, routes, and driving styles. For example, our Accord 3.0V6 gets just around 5km/L city, but is able to do north of 10km/L in long drives.

Sa mga compact SUVs like CRV, Rav4, etc, 5-7km/L is the norm for those with 2.0-2.4L engines with A/T, slightly better with the M/T. V6 variants? Don't even bother. The bigger SUVs with 2.5L diesels typically get around 7-10km/L, and typically around 5-8km/L for he 3.0L diesels.

AFAIK ang Altis talaga ang pinakamatipid sa class niya. Yun nga lang hindi naman ganon ka laki ang margin. I'd be much happier in an ES Civic. VTi-S M/T variant of course.

[fanboi]

I guess 18km/L FC is great? Hehe.. matanong narin pala.. paano momaconsider na maganda ang FC mo? Ilan ba ang averange o pinakamababa na FC pag compact sedan, subcompact at SUVs?

Anyway, Altis na ba ang may pinaka maganda FC sa mga kasabayan niyang models sa mga compact sedans?

sobrang ok na yan. im getting 6-8km/l sa suv ko at 12-14km/l sa sub-compact ko.

[Silaar]

Thanks sa info mga paps!

Hmm.. Sayang yung Lancer na GLX (Cedia yun di ba?) trip ko pa naman ang itsura. Ayaw narin ako sa SUVs hehe kung 500k budget. Pangbibili ko nalang ng damit yung panggasolina ng SUV para bumagay naman ako sa sasakyan Lol.

Ngayon last 3 nalang pinagiisipan ko.. Altis dahil sa FC at fabled reliability ng isang Toyota na sasakyan, Sentra N16 GSX dahil lang sa mas younger model ang makukuha sa same price at hindi din naman nagkakalayo ang FC at reliability at maintenance cost nito sa altis at ES Civic, kasi Honda xD. Para sa akin lang di ko trip itsura.. maganda pa yung EK Civic.. Hindi naman abot ang FD Civic kung 500k budget .

Last car question.. hehe.. ano naman standing ng FD Civic compared sa Altis? Parang ginawa ko nang baseline ko ang Altis sa lahat ng choices ko para sa isang compact sedan. Kung kaunti na tipong irrelevant ang lamang baka sa ang make or break sa kanila ay comfortable ride at looks.

On those last 2 criterias what would you pick between the 4 (kasama FD Civic).

Btw, bukas na ko magstart maghanap sa mga pre-owned car dealers. Mairerekomenda niyo ba itong mga dealers na ito: P3k Car Sales sa Las Pinas at Car Land sa Pasay? Sino na nakabili doon? at kamusta naman? Any car dealers na maisusuggest niyo na puntahan na malapit lang sa Cavite?

TIA!

[renzo_d10]

Definitely the FD Civic.

I get 8-9km/L city driving, 11km/L mixed, and the best I got on the highway was 16km/L on our 1.8 MT

And that thing is such an exciting car. The seats are a turn off though, it's on the hard side and the clutch can be annoying at times. But it's a great car.

[GTi]

Thanks sa info mga paps!

Hmm.. Sayang yung Lancer na GLX (Cedia yun di ba?) trip ko pa naman ang itsura. Ayaw narin ako sa SUVs hehe kung 500k budget. Pangbibili ko nalang ng damit yung panggasolina ng SUV para bumagay naman ako sa sasakyan Lol.

Ngayon last 3 nalang pinagiisipan ko.. Altis dahil sa FC at fabled reliability ng isang Toyota na sasakyan, Sentra N16 GSX dahil lang sa mas younger model ang makukuha sa same price at hindi din naman nagkakalayo ang FC at reliability at maintenance cost nito sa altis at ES Civic, kasi Honda xD. Para sa akin lang di ko trip itsura.. maganda pa yung EK Civic.. Hindi naman abot ang FD Civic kung 500k budget .

Last car question.. hehe.. ano naman standing ng FD Civic compared sa Altis? Parang ginawa ko nang baseline ko ang Altis sa lahat ng choices ko para sa isang compact sedan. Kung kaunti na tipong irrelevant ang lamang baka sa ang make or break sa kanila ay comfortable ride at looks.

On those last 2 criterias what would you pick between the 4 (kasama FD Civic).

Btw, bukas na ko magstart maghanap sa mga pre-owned car dealers. Mairerekomenda niyo ba itong mga dealers na ito: P3k Car Sales sa Las Pinas at Car Land sa Pasay? Sino na nakabili doon? at kamusta naman? Any car dealers na maisusuggest niyo na puntahan na malapit lang sa Cavite?

TIA!

Yung pre-facelift ES Civic from 2000-2003 pangit talaga. Pero yung facelifted 2003-2006 medyo maganda na. Medyo may pagka mini-Accord ang dating. Timeless design, IMHO. Unlike the trendy design of the FD which will age quickly in time.

The 2006 FD Civic can already be had for around 300+k. Most of them would be the base 1.8V though. If you don't mind... Since it has a bigger engine, it is of course less efficient than a 1.6L Altis or a 1.6L ES Civic. But then the driving experience is definitely much, much better. I remember when they were hyping the fuel efficiency of the Jazz through the Pagudpud to Sorsogon run, they included the FD Civic in the run. The car was able to run slightly more than 1100kms on a single full tank if I remember correctly.

As for the car dealers, I am not so sure. But we have had pleasant experiences dealing with Car Land. The owner is an acquaintance of the family. We've gotten a Tribute 2.3L, and helped a friend get a JDM Granvia 3.0L from them. Both cars are running pretty well thus far.