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    I've heard of and read for so long of vehicles equipped with DCTs and CVTs that have problems. Can we have a list of what car models have DCT and CVT trannies, and if these models are ok or not? So, which one has which? Which one has problems? Which model/model year to avoid?

    DCT
    1. Ford Ecosport pre 2018 - definitely problematic
    2. Ford Fiesta, all models?
    3. Ford Focus, all models?

    CVT
    1. Subaru Forester 2015 and later? Ano ba problem nito?

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    for me lng..

    ford and hyundaikia and vw dct

    all cvts except Toyoda

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    se, which hyundai/kia has dct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    se, which hyundai/kia has dct?
    Hyundai diesel accent
    veloster dct

    kia local models dont have dct.

    saw some dct failures over at hyundai-forums.

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    From what I've gathered, yes Toyota CVT's are reliable -- made by aisin. Those with bad CVT's come from jatco. Like the one Nissan uses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlee View Post
    From what I've gathered, yes Toyota CVT's are reliable -- made by aisin. Those with bad CVT's come from jatco. Like the one Nissan uses.
    Thanks for this info

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    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlee View Post
    From what I've gathered, yes Toyota CVT's are reliable -- made by aisin. Those with bad CVT's come from jatco. Like the one Nissan uses.
    Mitsu mirage, asx, lancer.

    Afaik, mirage uses jatco but there's no confirmed issue YET even after 5 yrs plus in the market.

    Suzuki celerio current gen uses cvt as well. Not sure who is the supplier.


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    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlee View Post
    From what I've gathered, yes Toyota CVT's are reliable -- made by aisin. Those with bad CVT's come from jatco. Like the one Nissan uses.
    G4 CVTs... JATCO also... Problem is the solenoid valves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    se, which hyundai/kia has dct?
    Accent 2016 - 2018 all DCTs

    Accent 2019 back to conventional 4speed, torque-converter type AT

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    for me lng..

    ford and hyundaikia and vw dct

    all cvts except Toyoda
    StockEngine, are you saying that Toyota's CVT is reliable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jakewise View Post
    StockEngine, are you saying that Toyota's CVT is reliable?
    toyota was smart enough to put them in smaller vehicles. they also use the most cvt fluid. i think this makes them reliable.

    carcomplaints.com
    comsumer reports
    toyota nation forums

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    So the toyota prius/aqua cvt is ok? My sister is buying a used aqua hybrid in her island paradise (fiji).
    Last edited by yebo; July 23rd, 2019 at 10:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    So the toyota prius/aqua cvt is ok? My sister is buying a used aqua hybrid in her island paradise (fiji).
    it should be ok if low mileage and fluids changed at right intervals. normally owners keep their prius'. if theyre selling.. its rather fishy imo.

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    Avoid CVTs and DCTs. But between them, I might pick CVTs as they seem to be the lesser evil. DCTs are prone to overheating in extreme traffic.

    Toyota CVTs are the most reliable but they are still CVTs... probably won’t last as long as a conventional auto

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardwang View Post
    Avoid CVTs and DCTs. But between them, I might pick CVTs as they seem to be the lesser evil. DCTs are prone to overheating in extreme traffic.

    Toyota CVTs are the most reliable but they are still CVTs... probably won’t last as long as a conventional auto
    Can you say the same for Golf GTS DCT? Hoping to get one kaso na discontinued.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardwang View Post
    Avoid CVTs and DCTs. But between them, I might pick CVTs as they seem to be the lesser evil. DCTs are prone to overheating in extreme traffic.

    Toyota CVTs are the most reliable but they are still CVTs... probably won’t last as long as a conventional auto
    Agreed.

    Bear in mind also that different AT gens require different driving styles. For example, DCTs should be placed on N and D intermittently when in Makatigtype rush hour traffic

    CVT's should be accelerated gradually, Jack rabbit starts will kill it

    True to all trannys, regular and correct ATF grade is a must.

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    DCT
    1. Ford Ecosport pre 2018 - definitely problematic
    2. Ford Fiesta, all models?
    3. Ford Focus, all models?
    4. Hyundai Accent diesel
    5. Hyundai Veloster

    CVT
    1. Subaru Forester 2015 and later? Ano ba problem nito? Or is it 2014 and later?
    2. Nissan CVTs?
    Last edited by yebo; July 23rd, 2019 at 10:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    DCT
    1. Ford Ecosport pre 2018 - definitely problematic
    2. Ford Fiesta, all models?
    3. Ford Focus, all models?
    4. Hyundai Accent diesel
    5. Hyundai Veloster

    CVT
    1. Subaru Forester 2015 and later? Ano ba problem nito? Or is it 2014 and later?
    2. Nissan CVTs?
    Incomplete list:

    Dual-clutch transmission - Wikipedia

    List of automobiles with continuously variable transmissions - Wikipedia

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    [DCT
    1. Ford Ecosport pre 2018 - definitely problematic
    2. Ford Fiesta, all models?
    3. Ford Focus, all models?
    4. Hyundai Accent diesel
    5. Hyundai Veloster

    CVT
    1. Nissan CVTs?

    Struck out subaru forester from the cvt list. Good luck sa 1%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    [DCT
    1. Ford Ecosport pre 2018 - definitely problematic
    2. Ford Fiesta, all models?
    3. Ford Focus, all models?
    4. Hyundai Accent diesel
    5. Hyundai Veloster

    CVT
    1. Nissan CVTs?

    Struck out subaru forester from the cvt list. Good luck sa 1%.
    The Fatal Flaw of Subaru Cars - YouTube

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