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    Hi,

    Going to buy my first new car, bank financing for 40% or 50% down payment. Looking at 3 years term.

    Car choices as ordered:
    1. Honda City VX - 920,000
    Pros: Feature packed, Looks, Interior, Resale value
    Cons: PMS cost? , Parts cost

    2. Mazda 2 V+ Sedan - 895,000
    Pros: Looks, Interior, Yojin3 PMS free
    Cons: Space, Parts price after Yojin3, Resale value

    3. Toyota Corolla Altis 1.6G - 992,000
    Pros: Maintenance cost, Reliability, Space
    Cons: Bare features

    4. Civic 1.8 E CVT - 1,115,000
    Pros:Premium feel, Backseat armrest, Looks
    Cons: Price

    5. Mitsubishi Lancer GT-A 2016 1,090,000
    Pros: Sunroof, 1.8 inch wheels, Backseat armrest
    Cons: Old model, Price

    6. Toyota Vios 1.3E
    Pros: Price, Reliability, Maintenance Cost
    Cons: Plastic interior, bare features

    I've test driven the City VX and Mazda 2 V+, I like the feel of driving the Mazda 2 V+ more and it used to be my first choice. But due to the parts, resale value, and space. My first choice is now the City VX.

    Looking for advise. Please let me know your thoughts. Thanks!

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    City - Pretty common, gusto ko kasi yung hindi mainstream eh. Pero mas ok ang reliability nito kaysa sa toyota, particularly sa makina.

    Mazda 2 - Maganda handling kaso sobrang sikip at liit. Mas okay kung base model Mazda 3 kapalit ng mga toys na makukuha mo sa v+, also di ko na rin irerecommend. Malapit na rin irelease yung skyactiv X. Kaso aftrr youjin3 mo mamamahalan kana. Siguro considered to kung ididispose mo rin kaagad for within 1-4y

    Corolla/Vios - ????

    Civic - Dabest sa lahat kaso ibang segment na to, M3 katapat nito.

    Lancer - Ipphase out na to diba? Di ko to issuggest

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    Civic the best sa choices mo kung kaya naman ng budget.

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    Get the Civic and be done with it. It's the best choice among the list.

    If you want a decent-handling compact, with ample space, German quality, with a powerful yet thrifty turbo diesel engine, go check out the VW Jetta 2.0L TDI DSG. The Comfortline model is priced at 1.1M.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuesford View Post
    Mazda 2 - Maganda handling kaso sobrang sikip at liit. Mas okay kung base model Mazda 3 kapalit ng mga toys na makukuha mo sa v+, also di ko na rin irerecommend. Malapit na rin irelease yung skyactiv X. Kaso aftrr youjin3 mo mamamahalan kana. Siguro considered to kung ididispose mo rin kaagad for within 1-4y

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    Post-yojin maintenance would likely be around what Honda & Toyota would charge for PMS. If you're handy, it should even be much less. Oil, filters & labor are the basic freebies for the 1st 3yrs of Mazda ownership.

    OE Skyactiv Oil filter is around Php750, Shell Fully Synthetic 5w-30 is about Php600 a liter. Crush washer, less than Php100. You can skip intake filter swaps & go washable drop-in from AEM or K&N. They're about $50 from Amazon.
    I'm off yojin w/ 1 of mine & I've bought some OE items from the dealership for mod experiments. I was surprised to see that a steering clockspring here costs about the same online from the US at subPhp5k. A $6 antenna nut is Php500 thru the dealership. Headlamp bulb dust boot, again for experiment, was Php400. So, there really isn't much basis for fear & paranoia. Bermaz is not the Mazda of old under Ford.[emoji4]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    Get the Civic and be done with it. It's the best choice among the list.

    If you want a decent-handling compact, with ample space, German quality, with a powerful yet thrifty turbo diesel engine, go check out the VW Jetta 2.0L TDI DSG. The Comfortline model is priced at 1.1M.
    this

    and civic has the highest reliability if you know maintenance. the engine has minimal issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
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    and civic has the highest reliability if you know maintenance. the engine has minimal issues.

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    Honda's R18 engine maybe more than a decade old but it proved to be reliable coupled with a good amount of performance and fuel efficiency. Also, there are a lot of local shops already familiar in servicing such an engine.

    If fuel efficiency is a key requirement, the Jetta trumps the rest of the compacts available in the local market. Not to mention, that ample torque at low rpms will be a welcome thing for spirited driving.

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    How about the Nissan Juke - P 980,000.00

    Pros - not too common (weird looking kasi)
    - good ride height
    - nissan reliability (same engine as shylphy)
    - easy maneuverability

    Cons - small trunk space
    - CVT has no sports mode

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    Honda's R18 engine maybe more than a decade old but it proved to be reliable coupled with a good amount of performance and fuel efficiency. Also, there are a lot of local shops already familiar in servicing such an engine.

    If fuel efficiency is a key requirement, the Jetta trumps the rest of the compacts available in the local market. Not to mention, that ample torque at low rpms will be a welcome thing for spirited driving.
    I personally know someone with a Jetta MT and Legacy 3.5. With the Jetta he could not remember the last time he filled up at a gas station. With the Legacy... just forget the gas and enjoy driving.

    Daming choices ni TS, tingin ko naman alam na nya gusto nyang bilhin kasi nailista na nya yung mga pros and cons. Naghahanap lang ng urther justification with his choice.

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    Thanks guys for all the replies. now lang uli naka online. Processing na ako ng bank approval for loan and waiting na lang.

    Mostly Civic ang winner based sa comments pero in terms of budget ko I think i-out ko na sya sa choice.

    Namention din yung Nissan juke pero hindi ko lang gusto yung looks and medyo pricey hehe.


    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    Post-yojin maintenance would likely be around what Honda & Toyota would charge for PMS. If you're handy, it should even be much less. Oil, filters & labor are the basic freebies for the 1st 3yrs of Mazda ownership.

    OE Skyactiv Oil filter is around Php750, Shell Fully Synthetic 5w-30 is about Php600 a liter. Crush washer, less than Php100. You can skip intake filter swaps & go washable drop-in from AEM or K&N. They're about $50 from Amazon.
    I'm off yojin w/ 1 of mine & I've bought some OE items from the dealership for mod experiments. I was surprised to see that a steering clockspring here costs about the same online from the US at subPhp5k. A $6 antenna nut is Php500 thru the dealership. Headlamp bulb dust boot, again for experiment, was Php400. So, there really isn't much basis for fear & paranoia. Bermaz is not the Mazda of old under Ford.[emoji4]

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    Useful info, salamat! In terms of Yojin3 they mentioned at the dealership that wear and tear parts are not actually included? (i.e. tires) Is this the case with you as well? thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatredcopter View Post
    Thanks guys for all the replies. now lang uli naka online. Processing na ako ng bank approval for loan and waiting na lang.

    Mostly Civic ang winner based sa comments pero in terms of budget ko I think i-out ko na sya sa choice.

    Namention din yung Nissan juke pero hindi ko lang gusto yung looks and medyo pricey hehe.




    Useful info, salamat! In terms of Yojin3 they mentioned at the dealership that wear and tear parts are not actually included? (i.e. tires) Is this the case with you as well? thanks
    If budget is a primary concern, get the City E. For 800k it already covers everything you need in a car. It's spacious for a subcompact, has the basic features you need (Bluetooth, ABS, fog lamps, 15" rims, etc), has ample power and good economy, and it actually looks respectable.

    I have a Civic and obviously it's better in every way than the City, but it also costs 300k more and that's not a small amount of money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatredcopter View Post
    Useful info, salamat! In terms of Yojin3 they mentioned at the dealership that wear and tear parts are not actually included? (i.e. tires) Is this the case with you as well? thanks
    Yojin covers all filters (oil, intake, cabin, fuel) & the Shell Synthetic 5w-30. They have scheduled intervals for each filter type. OE batt is covered for the 1st year. Wear items like tires & pads....nobody covers those unless proven faulty.[emoji4]

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    If budget is a primary concern, get the City E. For 800k it already covers everything you need in a car. It's spacious for a subcompact, has the basic features you need (Bluetooth, ABS, fog lamps, 15" rims, etc), has ample power and good economy, and it actually looks respectable.

    I have a Civic and obviously it's better in every way than the City, but it also costs 300k more and that's not a small amount of money.

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    Come to think of it, the E is also a good choice. Ang hirap mamili

    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    Yojin covers all filters (oil, intake, cabin, fuel) & the Shell Synthetic 5w-30. They have scheduled intervals for each filter type. OE batt is covered for the 1st year. Wear items like tires & pads....nobody covers those unless proven faulty.[emoji4]

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    Thanks! akala ko lahat ng parts talaga is covered by Yojin

    Update ko na lang choices ko between City E and Mazda 2 V+ hatchback

    Di pala pwede i edit yung main post:

    So aun down to 2 choices
    1. Honda City E - 810,000
    Pros: Feature packed, Looks, Interior, Resale value
    Cons: PMS cost? , Parts cost

    2. Mazda 2 V+ Hatchback - 865,000
    Pros: Looks, Interior, Yojin3 PMS free
    Cons: Space, Parts price after Yojin3, Resale value

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatredcopter View Post
    Come to think of it, the E is also a good choice. Ang hirap mamili


    Thanks! akala ko lahat ng parts talaga is covered by Yojin

    Update ko na lang choices ko between City E and Mazda 2 V+ hatchback

    Di pala pwede i edit yung main post:

    So aun down to 2 choices
    1. Honda City E - 810,000
    Pros: Feature packed, Looks, Interior, Resale value
    Cons: PMS cost? , Parts cost

    2. Mazda 2 V+ Hatchback - 865,000
    Pros: Looks, Interior, Yojin3 PMS free
    Cons: Space, Parts price after Yojin3, Resale value
    Kung hindi ka concern sa space M2, I´m using the City at M2 kay Misis pero mas gusto ko M2

    Sa comparison ng design/spare parts ng underchassis, mas ok sakin M2 compare sa City

    after naman ng warranty, I recommend 0W-20 sa engine oil

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatredcopter View Post
    Come to think of it, the E is also a good choice. Ang hirap mamili


    Thanks! akala ko lahat ng parts talaga is covered by Yojin

    Update ko na lang choices ko between City E and Mazda 2 V+ hatchback

    Di pala pwede i edit yung main post:

    So aun down to 2 choices
    1. Honda City E - 810,000
    Pros: Feature packed, Looks, Interior, Resale value
    Cons: PMS cost? , Parts cost
    Our Mod "jut" can vouch for honda's fair PMS pricing. 10k 20k 30k pricing isn't that bad.

    parts cost? what parts do you need? brake pads? marami oem and aftermarket. shock absorbers? so far konte pa nag papalit since 2014 introduction... kyb ph probably has replacements.

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    Yes space lang talaga concern ko with the M2.

    In terms of parts nothing in particular tinitignan ko lang yung cost of ownership nya in the long term mga +5 years

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    If you think you'd need cargo or passenger space anytime during owning the car, then go with the city. Otherwise, go with the 2.


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    My personal opinion, go with the City as your first car since it can satisfy most of your needs for now and it is quite a safe bet given Honda's reputation and market presence.
    For your second car a few years from now, maybe you could go with something with a better driving dynamics (e.g Mazda 2, Ford Fiesta/Focus Ecoboost) or higher ground clearance (Vitara, HR-V, etc)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dos2 View Post
    For your second car a few years from now, maybe you could go with something with a better driving dynamics (e.g Mazda 2, Ford Fiesta/Focus Ecoboost) or higher (Vitara, HR-V, etc)
    Or aim for something on a higher tier - a sporty midsize (Accord or Mazda6 or Passat) or a bonkers AWD turbo compact (WRX or Levorg 2.0DIT) or a good-handling CUV (Forester or CX5).

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