Well maybe that's what he meant, underdeveloped, hehehe but may point nga yung comment na workers doesn't care if it's a J or G or whatever when they are assembling. I think I am going for the Avanza 1.5G now. I'm planning to sell it after 3 years anyway. I once was bothered on considering Grand Livina but after reading some 'talks' about complaints on GL, I decided to stick on Avanza G. I'm going to have some test drives next weekend if it fits my comfort and if the pay for my 2nd house (I sold it at 350) arrives, that's the time I'll start talking to three Toyota agents. Good luck to me.