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    #1
    Is it better to get:

    -an MPV, eg. Innova or Carens with easier drivability.

    or

    -a minivan, eg. Carnival with its huge space.

    or

    -a full-sized van, eg. Urvan Estate with its extra seats.

    or

    -a mid-sized SUV. eg. Montero Sport.

    or

    -a large AUV, eg. Sportivo.


    Criteria would be blend of passenger comfort and easy maintenance.

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    for how many people?

    the MPVs and the midsize SUVs have rear seats that are at best liveable...

    a van as capable as the Grand Starex probably gets my vote. Then there's the humongous E-150...
    Last edited by scharnhorst; May 2nd, 2009 at 10:24 PM.

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    just saw a Carens kanina on display sa SM Tunasan. 3rd row looks cramped is all that i could say..

    Me would go for the montero over the other choices. ride height is high for me and it's a 7 seater. cargo nga lang hindi kayang tapatan sa ibang mga vans at di ko rin alam maintenance ng mitsubishi.. pero kahit ganon, i'd pick it for my family as in family lang hidni kasama guests

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    The most practical choice would be an mpv such as the Innova. Its ride quality as well as legroom clearance are above average. Maintenance-wise they're pretty easy to maintain, parts are readily available all around. Also, fuel economy is top notch even with an automatic transmission *note im talking about the D4D*. You just have to live with seeing an Innova every minute.
    But if seating would be a concern, I have to agree, the Grand Starex is the best choice out there. The Montero is not really an option for me, the interior is a bit cramped especially if your passengers are big.
    A definite budget would certainly help if you can provide.

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    A toyota grandia is an option. Luwag nito sa loob, lakas pa makina.

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    Yup, Grand Starex or Super Grandia for me.

    Or if you want a car-like driving experience get the Santa Fe

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    mag hi-ace ka na lang na bago kahit wag na yung super grandia

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    Kano kadaming tao ba pinaguusapan natin??

    Kung mga 10 people no choice ka na get a full size van and it that regard the Grand Starex. Forget the Hiace weak 2.5 D4-D engine tapos yung engine nasa ilalim pa so mainit unlike sa Starex may hood sya...

    Pag mga 5-7 people, I suggest Hyundai Santa Fe (biased ba? ) Its the best in its class and price range in terms of comfort, features, and luxury. It has a nice CRDi engine to boot as well.

    Pag may budget ka, then the likes of the Innova is fine...

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    Innova and Carnival can carry 8 passengers each. But bet. the two, passenger comfort tips towards the Carnival.

    Urvan, HiAce commuter, etc.. Well these are delivery vans in other countries. They can carry lots of people (15 +) or cargo (space not maximized due to fixed seats). But passenger comfort in these cannot compete with the likes of the Carnival or Innova.

    The Sportivo can also carry more people and cargo than the Innova but its really old already.

    I wouldn't consider frame based SUV like Montero, Fortuner, etc.. for the sole purpose of ferrying 7 to 8 passengers in comfort. In this category, 5 passengers should be the max.

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    *Gerbo

    how people will you be loading into this "Versatile Family vehicle" of your's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tidus1203 View Post
    Kano kadaming tao ba pinaguusapan natin??

    Kung mga 10 people no choice ka na get a full size van and it that regard the Grand Starex. Forget the Hiace weak 2.5 D4-D engine tapos yung engine nasa ilalim pa so mainit unlike sa Starex may hood sya...

    Pag mga 5-7 people, I suggest Hyundai Santa Fe (biased ba? ) Its the best in its class and price range in terms of comfort, features, and luxury. It has a nice CRDi engine to boot as well.

    Pag may budget ka, then the likes of the Innova is fine...
    Oo nga yung makina ng hi-ace nasa ilalim
    Last edited by renzo_d10; May 15th, 2009 at 12:06 PM.

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    Meron bang Hi-Ace na nasa harap ang engine? lahat ng Hi-ace ng uncle ko up to the Super Grandia GL lahat nasa ilalim ng front seats.

    Yung mga Starex naman nya, lahat nasa harap engine.

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    #13
    dp...........

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    kung malaking van talaga hanap mo mag Grand Starex ka. or Hiace GL Grandia/Super Grandia kaso mahina ang engine compared sa Grand Starex.

    na try ko na dating karerahin yung Grand Starex VGT using our GL Grandia.. ayun iwan ako :shocked2:

    and IMO mas comfortable ang ride ng Grand Starex kasi spring suspension sya sa likod unlike yung Hiace. naka leaf spring. at mas ok pa handling ng Grand Starex.
    pag nabenta na yung 2002 Starex Club namin sana palitan ng Grand Starex

    heinz, nasa mid ang engine ng Hiace. ang nasa harap yung mga brake fluid tank, radiator, etc..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    *Gerbo

    how people will you be loading into this "Versatile Family vehicle" of your's?
    9-10 people.

    Highly considering the old Starex. Medyo lukewarm reception dito sa other thread sa base model GS. Pini-phased na rin pala.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbo View Post
    9-10 people.

    Highly considering the old Starex. Medyo lukewarm reception dito sa other thread sa base model GS. Pini-phased na rin pala.
    better strike out the MPV's.

    7 people lang kasya sa innova, 8 kung pipilitin. In all situations kawawa yung dalawa sa likod, unless mga bata sila

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    #17
    dapat passenger vans na rin

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    if you're driving, avoid the engine-under-driver models. if you have a driver, well, who cares about the driver?
    otherwise, your budget and passenger load will be the deciding factors.
    starex? ask about its fuel consumption first.
    the koreans? i don't know if they have improved their product quality. i still fondly remember my 1996 korean breadbox... those were learning experiences you wouldn't find in the book...
    what do i drive now? a diesel innova since 2005. good for 5 comfortable big adults with long legs. and 2 children. mura pa. no regrets.

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    ask the experiences of the old and new Starex Owners.

    yung family namin satisfied sa Starex.. meron kaming 2 Starex. one 2000 model SVX and 2003 model Club.

    yung SVX namin, sa 173,357 KMS na naitakbo nya sa amin, wala kaming major problem. basta ang maintenance mo ay tutok.

    kung ang old Starex ay ganun na ka OK, ano pa kaya yung bago?

    malamang IMPROVISED pa yung Grand Starex.. diba?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starex_Gold View Post
    malamang IMPROVISED pa yung Grand Starex.. diba?
    sir, improved ata.

    Never driven one, pero masarap nga maging pasahero sa starex

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