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    mga sir,
    ano po ang recommend nyong car na around 3-4m? preffer ko sana convertible? (hard top)
    TYI

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    believe me tol, a convertible is not worth it... even in express ways you wouldn't dare to open it

    pero back to the topic: the new 2012 MB SLK hard top would be nice but you would have to stretch your budget a little more to about 5.5m
    -the only thing that would fit your budget is the big exact 3m mark (BMW 3 series, MB C-class, Audi A4, Lexus IS300)... the only transpo with a price range of 3m-4m's are SUVs...

    good luck with the purchase *The "new" releases for this year is the C-class and SLK...
    others will change in a year

    hope this help

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    Quote Originally Posted by yastarr View Post
    mga sir,
    ano po ang recommend nyong car na around 3-4m? preffer ko sana convertible? (hard top)
    TYI
    BMW 120i (around P3,950,000)

    Last edited by ghosthunter; August 1st, 2011 at 05:58 PM.

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    I do not suggest convertibles, especially in this country. You wouldn't be able to use it due to the hot weather and dreadful pollution. It will also be more problematic in the long run. I'd suggest you get coupes, sports sedans or high end compact SUVs. Here are some cars I find to be appealing (in no particular order).
    1. Audi A4 3.2FSI Quattro (P3.880M)- the great styling, AWD and the 266hp FSI engine make it a very good buy. In fact I prefer this one over the C-Class and the 3-Series and its got a much lower price tag too, with pretty much the same level of equipment.
    2. Audi Q5 2.0TFSI Quattro (P3.980M)- I find this one the best looking in its class (X3, MB GLK, XC60). The engine is very good, and being a TFSI unit, dropping in a piggyback ECU will bring in huge performance gains.
    3. Volvo XC60 D5 (P3.595M)- If you are into diesels, this one's got the most powerful one in its class, and being a Volvo it naturally comes with a full host of safety equipment, besides being the cheapest in its class.
    4. Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X MR (P3.695M)- This one needs no introduction. And this time around the dual clutch TC-SST 6 speed A/T will make it much easier to drive as compared to its predecessors and also much better than the Impreza WRX STi (whose A/T option is an ordinary 5 speed A/T).
    5. Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8V6 with Brembo Package (P1.990M)- Now, I know that it may sound absurd that your budget is at 3-4M and that I am suggesting a Korean car costing half of that budget. But this one is a truly great performing car, that made the V6 Camaro look like a really bad deal (costs 1.098M more and with similar levels of performance). And since you bought it for so cheap, you've got a lot of extra to spend for engine and suspension upgrades. And then, you already have 306hp and a nearly 50:50 front/rear weight distribution as a starting point. :devil:
    6. Chevrolet Camaro 2SS (P4.3M)- If you don't mind the fuel consumption of a huge 400hp 6.2L V8, this is among the best sports cars you can get at this price range in the Philippine market. A Camaro in Bumblebee form would be a definite head turner.

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    Convertible? Only two good ones in your price range... the Mini Cooper S Convertible (around 2.5m) and the Mazda Miata Hardtop. Both fantastic fun to drive. Both pretty special feeling, both reasonably easy to own... though maintenance and parts are cheaper for the Mazda.

    Then mail the extra 1.5m to me.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    All I can think of is the Mazda Miata ...

    It's cute ... small ... looks fun to drive.

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    Ayon sa topgear:

    Hundreds of cars right at your fingertips | TopGear.com.ph

    Mini Cooper S Cabriolet : 3.1M
    BMW 1 - Series 120i Convertible: 3.950M
    Mitsubishi Lancer EVO X MR : 3.695M
    Chevy Camaro 2LT: 3.188M
    Lexus IS 300C: 3.978M
    Volvo S60 T6: 3.595M

    Dami pa. Basta, If I have 3-4M na DAPAT maubos sa brand new sports car, my top picks would be (in no particular order)
    S60 T6
    BMW 120i
    EVO X MR/GSR
    Camaro

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChunkyLover View Post
    believe me tol, a convertible is not worth it... even in express ways you wouldn't dare to open it

    pero back to the topic: the new 2012 MB SLK hard top would be nice but you would have to stretch your budget a little more to about 5.5m
    -the only thing that would fit your budget is the big exact 3m mark (BMW 3 series, MB C-class, Audi A4, Lexus IS300)... the only transpo with a price range of 3m-4m's are SUVs...

    good luck with the purchase *The "new" releases for this year is the C-class and SLK...
    others will change in a year

    hope this help
    thanks sa mga suggestions, ok sana yung MB SLK-350 kaso out of budget na hehe...
    Medyo type ko din yung Lexus is300c,

    walang recommend ng BMW Z4, Audi TT?

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    AFAIK hindi maganda ride quality ng Z4. Hindi marami ang mapagpipilian na convertibles dito at ang laki ng price difference ng mga to sa mga fixed top counterparts nila. Maganda rin ang IS300C, yun nga lang ang performance niya is not worth its price. Kung IS-F yan, siguro pwede pa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yastarr View Post
    thanks sa mga suggestions, ok sana yung MB SLK-350 kaso out of budget na hehe...
    Medyo type ko din yung Lexus is300c,

    walang recommend ng BMW Z4?
    Lexus is300c is good, I'm a lexus user myself.. i liked it more than the a4, 3, and C...
    the only thing disappointing with the IS300c is the rear legroom, other than that its a great car.
    MONEY wise, i'd rather not. because the IS will have a model change early 2013

    z4 - i wouldn't recommend it, with a SRP of 6,000,000 with almost no options included... its practically a scam

    hmmm if i were you just wait for the 2013 audi a5 and the c-class coupe, arriving midyear of 2012...

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    2011-2012 model releases:
    porsche cayenne - 6.9m
    audi a6 - 5.5m
    MB c-class - 3m
    BMW x3 - 4.5m
    Lexus ES- 3.3m
    MB SLK - est. 5.5m
    1 series M - est. 4m
    BMW 5 series - 5m
    here are my best pick for the new releases. 3, a4, and IS due to change early or mid 2012

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    AFAIK hindi maganda ride quality ng Z4. Hindi marami ang mapagpipilian na convertibles dito at ang laki ng price difference ng mga to sa mga fixed top counterparts nila. Maganda rin ang IS300C, yun nga lang ang performance niya is not worth its price. Kung IS-F yan, siguro pwede pa.
    Maganda ang Z4

    Mahal nga lang. 6 million pesos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    AFAIK hindi maganda ride quality ng Z4. Hindi marami ang mapagpipilian na convertibles dito at ang laki ng price difference ng mga to sa mga fixed top counterparts nila. Maganda rin ang IS300C, yun nga lang ang performance niya is not worth its price. Kung IS-F yan, siguro pwede pa.

    I have driven the current Lexus IS300.

    Personally, spending loads of money (nearly P3M) buying the IS300 is a waste because all you are getting is a cramped 4 door saloon car with a big engine that doesn't even have the performance to go anywhere near "fast". Although it might look good from the outside, it's not worth the sardine-can feeling whenever you get in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    AFAIK hindi maganda ride quality ng Z4. Hindi marami ang mapagpipilian na convertibles dito at ang laki ng price difference ng mga to sa mga fixed top counterparts nila. Maganda rin ang IS300C, yun nga lang ang performance niya is not worth its price. Kung IS-F yan, siguro pwede pa.
    i beg to differ, My bro agrees that the my IS 6 cylinder engine runs better than his A4 Tdi. but interior wise, the A4 is better.
    The interior of the IS is fairly cramped im 5'5 and big boned but i fit snugly... but for larger people i woudnt recommend it...
    but still it looks good and a hoot to drive

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    I have driven the current Lexus IS300.

    Personally, spending loads of money (nearly P3M) buying the IS300 is a waste because all you are getting is a cramped 4 door saloon car with a big engine that doesn't even have the performance to go anywhere near "fast". Although it might look good from the outside, it's not worth the sardine-can feeling whenever you get in it.
    but between the 3,C,A4,IS the lexus is fastest

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChunkyLover View Post
    but between the 3,C,A4,IS the lexus is fastest
    If one was all about speed, get a sports car. But this is about a luxury car. Comfort, prestige as well as handling and speed. The Lexus IS300 fails in delivering some of those qualities.

    I might be a brand snob but for the Lexus sedan line up, after having driven the IS, ES, GS and LS sedans, I feel the Lexus brand does not yet deliver the proper balance of a luxury sedan with exception to the LS460. But even with the LS460, I do feel it is much overpriced by the local dealership.
    Last edited by ghosthunter; August 2nd, 2011 at 12:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    If one was all about speed, get a sports car. But this is about a luxury car. Comfort, prestige as well as handling and speed. The Lexus IS300 fails in delivering some of those qualities.

    I might be a brand snob but for the Lexus sedan line up, I feel the Lexus brand does not yet deliver the proper balance of a luxury sedan with exception to the LS460. But even with the LS460, I do feel it is much overpriced by the local dealership.
    oh, i thought you mentioned that the IS lacks "speed" in the "3m" price range....
    Lexus are for those who wants to be understated.
    its kinda hard to swallow that a Toyota can be at a price range of BMW or MB ... but hey... Lexus is also a class of its own...
    BMW- Sportiness
    MB - Comfort & Prestige
    Lexus- Durability & Reliability
    Audi - Balance

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChunkyLover View Post
    oh, i thought you mentioned that the IS lacks "speed" in the "3m" price range....
    Lexus are for those who wants to be understated.
    its kinda hard to swallow that a Toyota can be at a price range of BMW or MB ... but hey... Lexus is also a class of its own...
    It's an upstart that still needs to prove to the market that it can compete with other more established luxury car brands.


    BMW- Sportiness
    MB - Comfort & Prestige
    Lexus- Durability & Reliability
    Audi - Balance
    If the only thing that Lexus can bring is durability and reliability, you can have that in droves and much more with the BMW, MB and Audi. hehehe

    And for the same money, buying a Volvo would probably get you more luxury and comfort with the performance.

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    still not buying with the lexus durability till proven here. the hard top mechanisim seems to keep getting stuck often

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    It's an upstart that still needs to prove to the market that it can compete with other more established luxury car brands.




    If the only thing that Lexus can bring is durability and reliability, you can have that in droves and much more with the BMW, MB and Audi. hehehe

    And for the same money, buying a Volvo would probably get you more luxury and comfort with the performance.

    Thats a hasty generalization, seems biased to the badge rather than the result...

    Pretty low expectation for a car brand that became a hit in the states...

    Based from my experiences, bmw and mb and many more badge conscious brands are like beautiful ladies that needs continuous upkeep "no money, no honey", while lexus are like little wild, petite asian woman that's game anytime and anywhere and requires less upkeep

    sorry but almost two days without sleep is catching up to me wahahaha


    please see what i mean Ratings | J.D. Power
    Facts gathered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lazyfoot View Post
    still not buying with the lexus durability till proven here. the hard top mechanisim seems to keep getting stuck often
    please see : 2011 Car Recalls | View All 2011 Auto Recall Reports Online

    all car brands has flaws, it just depends on the publicity.

    hardtop getting stuck is better than a ferrari engine violently exploding hehehe <puns intended>

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any recommendation for 3-4m car?