any recommendation for 3-4m car?

[Starex_Gold]

AFAIK hindi maganda ride quality ng Z4. Hindi marami ang mapagpipilian na convertibles dito at ang laki ng price difference ng mga to sa mga fixed top counterparts nila. Maganda rin ang IS300C, yun nga lang ang performance niya is not worth its price. Kung IS-F yan, siguro pwede pa.

Maganda ang Z4

Mahal nga lang. 6 million pesos.

[ghosthunter]

AFAIK hindi maganda ride quality ng Z4. Hindi marami ang mapagpipilian na convertibles dito at ang laki ng price difference ng mga to sa mga fixed top counterparts nila. Maganda rin ang IS300C, yun nga lang ang performance niya is not worth its price. Kung IS-F yan, siguro pwede pa.

I have driven the current Lexus IS300.

Personally, spending loads of money (nearly P3M) buying the IS300 is a waste because all you are getting is a cramped 4 door saloon car with a big engine that doesn't even have the performance to go anywhere near "fast". Although it might look good from the outside, it's not worth the sardine-can feeling whenever you get in it.

[ChunkyLover]

AFAIK hindi maganda ride quality ng Z4. Hindi marami ang mapagpipilian na convertibles dito at ang laki ng price difference ng mga to sa mga fixed top counterparts nila. Maganda rin ang IS300C, yun nga lang ang performance niya is not worth its price. Kung IS-F yan, siguro pwede pa.

i beg to differ, My bro agrees that the my IS 6 cylinder engine runs better than his A4 Tdi. but interior wise, the A4 is better.
The interior of the IS is fairly cramped im 5'5 and big boned but i fit snugly... but for larger people i woudnt recommend it...
but still it looks good and a hoot to drive

[ChunkyLover]

I have driven the current Lexus IS300.

Personally, spending loads of money (nearly P3M) buying the IS300 is a waste because all you are getting is a cramped 4 door saloon car with a big engine that doesn't even have the performance to go anywhere near "fast". Although it might look good from the outside, it's not worth the sardine-can feeling whenever you get in it.

but between the 3,C,A4,IS the lexus is fastest

[ghosthunter]

but between the 3,C,A4,IS the lexus is fastest

If one was all about speed, get a sports car. But this is about a luxury car. Comfort, prestige as well as handling and speed. The Lexus IS300 fails in delivering some of those qualities.

I might be a brand snob but for the Lexus sedan line up, after having driven the IS, ES, GS and LS sedans, I feel the Lexus brand does not yet deliver the proper balance of a luxury sedan with exception to the LS460. But even with the LS460, I do feel it is much overpriced by the local dealership.

[ChunkyLover]

If one was all about speed, get a sports car. But this is about a luxury car. Comfort, prestige as well as handling and speed. The Lexus IS300 fails in delivering some of those qualities.

I might be a brand snob but for the Lexus sedan line up, I feel the Lexus brand does not yet deliver the proper balance of a luxury sedan with exception to the LS460. But even with the LS460, I do feel it is much overpriced by the local dealership.

oh, i thought you mentioned that the IS lacks "speed" in the "3m" price range....
Lexus are for those who wants to be understated.
its kinda hard to swallow that a Toyota can be at a price range of BMW or MB ... but hey... Lexus is also a class of its own...
BMW- Sportiness
MB - Comfort & Prestige
Lexus- Durability & Reliability
Audi - Balance

[ghosthunter]

oh, i thought you mentioned that the IS lacks "speed" in the "3m" price range....
Lexus are for those who wants to be understated.
its kinda hard to swallow that a Toyota can be at a price range of BMW or MB ... but hey... Lexus is also a class of its own...

It's an upstart that still needs to prove to the market that it can compete with other more established luxury car brands.

BMW- Sportiness
MB - Comfort & Prestige
Lexus- Durability & Reliability
Audi - Balance

If the only thing that Lexus can bring is durability and reliability, you can have that in droves and much more with the BMW, MB and Audi. hehehe

And for the same money, buying a Volvo would probably get you more luxury and comfort with the performance.

[lazyfoot]

still not buying with the lexus durability till proven here. the hard top mechanisim seems to keep getting stuck often

[ChunkyLover]

It's an upstart that still needs to prove to the market that it can compete with other more established luxury car brands.




If the only thing that Lexus can bring is durability and reliability, you can have that in droves and much more with the BMW, MB and Audi. hehehe

And for the same money, buying a Volvo would probably get you more luxury and comfort with the performance.

Thats a hasty generalization, seems biased to the badge rather than the result...

Pretty low expectation for a car brand that became a hit in the states...

Based from my experiences, bmw and mb and many more badge conscious brands are like beautiful ladies that needs continuous upkeep "no money, no honey", while lexus are like little wild, petite asian woman that's game anytime and anywhere and requires less upkeep

sorry but almost two days without sleep is catching up to me wahahaha


please see what i mean Ratings | J.D. Power
Facts gathered.

[ChunkyLover]

still not buying with the lexus durability till proven here. the hard top mechanisim seems to keep getting stuck often

please see : 2011 Car Recalls | View All 2011 Auto Recall Reports Online

all car brands has flaws, it just depends on the publicity.

hardtop getting stuck is better than a ferrari engine violently exploding hehehe <puns intended>