audio set-up for beginners [continued]

**miggsmd** · October 9th, 2011 09:58 PM

Mga boss may nakita kong add sa net. dunno kung ok ba itong package na ito. Sorry for being a noob on sound setups.
May i ask your opinion bago ako bumili sna:

SALE SOUND SET UP...

1PC 12 "JBL GT5 S12...
1PC V12 NV 905 4CHANNEL AMPLIFIER....
1PC MDF L-PORTED BOX....
1SET GAUGE 8 WIRING KIT...
2PCS Y-COONECTOR....
ALL BRAND NEW..

PRICE 8000 pesos with free installation

thanks po sa mga replies. ask ko na din kung kelangan pa mag pa deadening ng pintuan

**The Truth** · October 10th, 2011 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by jhnkvn

As for the higher-levels of Focal's lineup, buying them first-hand is expensive. I learned that too but since I got a lemon midrange (very rare cases haha!), nasulit ko rin yun warranty agad versus buying them secondhand. The funny thing with my KRX3 set is that, if you listen to it, you wouldn't guess it's Focal. My highs are really tamed down for everyday driving

From time to time, you'll see offers of secondhand Focals popping up if you know where to look. For Polyglass, seeing them in secondhand markets is the norm. But you sometimes see a Utopia N7 complete with the crossblock selling at 120k :naughty2:

120,000 pesos for a second hand Utopia Be N7 with corresponding N7 crossblock?
That's 180,000 pesos in savings! Why did I even think about buying a brand new set?!
How about a second hand Rainbow CS 360 seperates? Php 250,000? :innocent:

Hehe, kidding aside. I really envy *jhnkvn for owning a set of Focal Krx Polykevlars, but I'll have to make do with my Polyglass.
Now all that is left for me to add is a Focal Subwoofer + mono amp.
Which Sub lineup should I match them with and what size for accurate bass? 10" 11" or 12"?
A box set would be preferrable.

**The Truth** · October 10th, 2011 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by miggsmd

Mga boss may nakita kong add sa net. dunno kung ok ba itong package na ito. Sorry for being a noob on sound setups.
May i ask your opinion bago ako bumili sna:

SALE SOUND SET UP...

1PC 12 "JBL GT5 S12...
1PC V12 NV 905 4CHANNEL AMPLIFIER....
1PC MDF L-PORTED BOX....
1SET GAUGE 8 WIRING KIT...
2PCS Y-COONECTOR....
ALL BRAND NEW..

PRICE 8000 pesos with free installation

thanks po sa mga replies. ask ko na din kung kelangan pa mag pa deadening ng pintuan

If you have'nt changed the Headunit and Front speakers yet, I suggest you do that first.
looking at your list, the package doesnt include seperates or even a coax.
oem deadening would cost you at least 2k, sa front doors palang yun. Dagadag mo nalang muna sa speaker budget mo.
soundproofing is not an immediate concern. Hindi naman kailangan complete agad yung setup. Part by part pwd rin.
1)Headunit 2)Fronts 3) 4ch Amp&Wiring 4) Subs+mono 5) Deadening 6) Rear fill (kung gusto mo ng surround effect)
Do not skimp on the Front Speakers, it makes or breaks your set up.

**miggsmd** · October 10th, 2011 01:15 AM

Originally Posted by The Truth

If you have'nt changed the Headunit and Front speakers yet, I suggest you do that first.
looking at your list, the package doesnt include seperates or even a coax.
oem deadening would cost you at least 2k, sa front doors palang yun. Dagadag mo nalang muna sa speaker budget mo.
soundproofing is not an immediate concern. Hindi naman kailangan complete agad yung setup. Part by part pwd rin.
1)Headunit 2)Fronts 3) 4ch Amp&Wiring 4) Subs+mono 5) Deadening 6) Rear fill (kung gusto mo ng surround effect)
Do not skimp on the Front Speakers, it makes or breaks your set up.

boss thanks po sa reply. Actually meron npo akong 2 din headunit na Touchscreen ngaun. Binili ko sa tito ko. ung may GPS, ipod,
TV etc etc. Ung seperates na lang po ung idadagdag ko sa list hehe.
Ask ko na din pla anu magandang brand ng seps that would complete the above setup
Thanks ulit

**jhnkvn** · October 10th, 2011 02:20 AM

Originally Posted by The Truth

120,000 pesos for a second hand Utopia Be N7 with corresponding N7 crossblock?
That's 180,000 pesos in savings! Why did I even think about buying a brand new set?!
How about a second hand Rainbow CS 360 seperates? Php 250,000? :innocent:

Hehe, kidding aside. I really envy *jhnkvn for owning a set of Focal Krx Polykevlars, but I'll have to make do with my Polyglass.
Now all that is left for me to add is a Focal Subwoofer + mono amp.
Which Sub lineup should I match them with and what size for accurate bass? 10" 11" or 12"?
A box set would be preferrable.

(Secondhand goodies)
You'd be surprised to know how much people can save once they find the right connections in the secondhand market. For example, RC who was an EMMA SQ Advanced Unlimited champion previously owned this DLS A7 (40k retail) and sold it at 20k. There's also reports of used Focal KRX3 that was sold to the buyer's friend for 30k :naughty2:. But of course, these deals happen quickly since it's on a first-come-first-serve basis.

If I haven't sent you the link where to find secondhand goods, PM me. I kinda forgot which and who did I recommend that link to (kay larshell ko ata ni recommend)

(Rainbow)
Sadly, Rainbows aren't still popular here in the Philippines. I haven't even managed to audition one! I've seen their dealer pricelist though... 500k!

(Subwoofer)
As for the subwoofer, if you're going for a full-Focal lineup, I know somebody who competed in EMMA and is selling his 13" polyglass subwoofer complete with box for 12k only. As for the size, that really depends. I have this sweet spot for 12-inch subwoofers since I find they provide the right amount of oomph and response.

For those who are competing in SQ competitions, one of the hardest thing to tune for is getting the bass at front. Some people remedy this by placing their subwoofer at the front nalang rather than the back as this makes the blending of the sub to the midbass easier hence seeing 8" subwoofers isn't rare either. It provides ample amount of oomph for those everyday driving. Just don't expect to roll down your windows and play Lil' Jon out loud cruising by the street.

**jhnkvn** · October 10th, 2011 02:33 AM

Originally Posted by miggsmd

Mga boss may nakita kong add sa net. dunno kung ok ba itong package na ito. Sorry for being a noob on sound setups.
May i ask your opinion bago ako bumili sna:

SALE SOUND SET UP...

1PC 12 "JBL GT5 S12...
1PC V12 NV 905 4CHANNEL AMPLIFIER....
1PC MDF L-PORTED BOX....
1SET GAUGE 8 WIRING KIT...
2PCS Y-COONECTOR....
ALL BRAND NEW..

PRICE 8000 pesos with free installation

thanks po sa mga replies. ask ko na din kung kelangan pa mag pa deadening ng pintuan

Pare, there's a seller in Sulit.com having the exact deals for 7,500php. Which at that price is fair (not expensive, not cheap either).

As you already have a 2DIN HU, just replace the front speakers nalang muna before buying the subwoofer. I believe this would have a better impact when starting out rather than rushing and installing the subwoofer as your first upgrade.

Deadening is highly recommended. But you can forgo this depending on the car you would install your ICE upgrades. Some cars are more prone to rattling. Pero kung magbabayo ka, deadening the trunk lid at the very least is required.

What brand of separates I could recommend depends on your budget. At the budget meals, I like Targa. Common sila sa Raon but you'd have a hard time finding sa Banawe (3-5 shops lang ata meron). Why are they hard to find sa Banawe? Nagkaguluhan kasi yun supplier-dealer relationship dati. Targa is a Philippine manufacturer of speakers.. and bumabawi sila sa sales of OEM. In fact, the ones you see in component sets like Sony or JVC is actually Targa's speakers. Although it's labeled "Made in China", sa totoo lang, it's more feasible to source the drivers itself locally to avoid shipping costs. That's what's Targa forte is.

**The Truth** · October 10th, 2011 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by miggsmd

boss thanks po sa reply. Actually meron npo akong 2 din headunit na Touchscreen ngaun. Binili ko sa tito ko. ung may GPS, ipod,
TV etc etc. Ung seperates na lang po ung idadagdag ko sa list hehe.
Ask ko na din pla anu magandang brand ng seps that would complete the above setup
Thanks ulit

If you're planning to go through with that package, just go with JbL or Pioneer entry level seperates.
Lots of them in Banawe. (3-5k)
but I suggest shelling out a few thousand more and get MB Quart's Onyx entry level..
that would cost you around 6k I think

**jhnkvn** · October 10th, 2011 08:26 PM

I would also recommend JBL separates. Go JBL since you're planning to get the GT5 na rin.

**Starex_Gold** · October 11th, 2011 02:11 AM

*jhnkvn: Bro, ok ba yung DLS performance 226 2-way coaxial 6.5" speakers?

Pwede ba yun front and rear just for the sake na palitan yun speakers?

And kailangan pa ba ng amplifier?

BTW, ok na ako sa stock subwoofer. Like you said, konting enhancement nalang HEHE....

**Fotonista** · October 11th, 2011 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by Starex_Gold

*jhnkvn: Bro, ok ba yung DLS performance 226 2-way coaxial 6.5" speakers?

Pwede ba yun front and rear just for the sake na palitan yun speakers?

And kailangan pa ba ng amplifier?

BTW, ok na ako sa stock subwoofer. Like you said, konting enhancement nalang HEHE....

Boss SG, IMO don't go for a coax upfront (even sa rear not advisable). Always get a component system (separates). It's easier to tune and get the sound stage on a seps that the coax. I guess with the price of DLS coax, you can get na rin some decent sounding seps.

my 2 cents.