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    #2521
    Quote Originally Posted by Sleepcare View Post
    For me change the kinetic seps to pioneer seps then add deadening. Atleast 5k additional but malaki ang improvement compared sa kinetic seps.

    Tonality yes magkakaroon ng pagbabago. Pero you'll feel the improvement more kapag pioneer. May demo si jeff niyan kinetic vs pioneer and malaki ang difference. Pero YMMV parin. According to him may iba ok na sa kinetic pero may iba din na nag-go sa pioneer nung narinig yung difference. (Actually i'm one of them )
    Thanks sir. May I know your current setup? Hehe. Willing to shell out more naman if makikita talaga ung difference. Pag nagtatanong kasi ako kay jeff, more on "search mo nalang sa FB ko" ung sagot niya. Haha. Meron din kasi siya 8k promo seps and coax w/ deadening na Pioneer and JBL. I have no idea lang kung mas sulit un then add subs & amp nalang. mejo okay na kasi ako sa outside looks ng auto kaya plano ko naman sa loob.

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    #2522
    Quote Originally Posted by monty_GTV View Post
    kung improvement sa tonality against sa stock meron yan. may kasama na ring boxed sub so may boom boom ka na
    Thanks sir!

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    #2523
    Quote Originally Posted by phil15 View Post
    I can let you audition my APs if you are around Marikina/ Antipolo/ Marcos HIghway area. It is running on via a 5 ch Audison amp. Just message me should you be interested. Goodluck
    Thanks very much for the offer bro! I'm based in the Loyola Heights-Katipunan area so I'm not too far off, I guess. Will send you a private message. Cheers!

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    #2524
    Quote Originally Posted by sientobente View Post
    Helix din Boss Arn. I have heard Alpine amps before but sorry it's not enough for me to identify their sound signature.
    Their HUs and Type R seps, I know, they sound clinical. Just not sure with the amps.


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    Thanks again, bro! Your inputs have been very helpful.

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    #2525
    Quote Originally Posted by gaol View Post
    Thanks again, bro! Your inputs have been very helpful.
    They are running the audition nights this Friday, Boss Arn. Please check the SQ Manila FB Page.


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    #2526
    in the process of upgrading my speakers to an aftermarket one. their proposal is satisfactory for the time being due to my budget as well.
    that lineup doesn't include the 2nd row speakers. so their plan was to disconnect it for the time being. if i plan in the future to install some focal coaxials on them + an amplifier, would it be feasible to add some speakers or i can just leave it as it is?

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    #2527
    Quote Originally Posted by sientobente View Post
    They are running the audition nights this Friday, Boss Arn. Please check the SQ Manila FB Page.


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    Thanks, I saw the post. I thought at first it was an EB for those with Audi vehicles (Audi Nights) hehe. I'll see if I can make it, Friday nights are usually dinner night with the in-laws.

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    #2528
    goodmorning po newbie lang po sa sa car audio..hingi lang po sana ako advise mga sirs kung ano mas maganda ipares sa focal 165fx na amp between helix g4 at audison sr4..btw HU ko po pioneer AVH595BT..TIA po

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    #2529
    Quote Originally Posted by tutituts24 View Post
    Thanks sir. May I know your current setup? Hehe. Willing to shell out more naman if makikita talaga ung difference. Pag nagtatanong kasi ako kay jeff, more on "search mo nalang sa FB ko" ung sagot niya. Haha. Meron din kasi siya 8k promo seps and coax w/ deadening na Pioneer and JBL. I have no idea lang kung mas sulit un then add subs & amp nalang. mejo okay na kasi ako sa outside looks ng auto kaya plano ko naman sa loob.
    Running pioneer seperates and sansui coax (no amplifier) on Innova.

    Before, i'm running on teac seps+lightning lab/kinetic amplifier+10 inch subs.

    Better get the pioneer package kasi hindi nirerecommend saakin ni Jeff ang JBL. I think he should know what kind of music you're listening to. Mga kanta ko kasi 90's kaya he recommended the pioneer to me. Maybe yung mga types of music na pinapakinggan mo pwede ang JBL.
    Last edited by Sleepcare; August 4th, 2017 at 01:18 PM.

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    #2530
    Quote Originally Posted by ikloyputograpi View Post
    in the process of upgrading my speakers to an aftermarket one. their proposal is satisfactory for the time being due to my budget as well.
    that lineup doesn't include the 2nd row speakers. so their plan was to disconnect it for the time being. if i plan in the future to install some focal coaxials on them + an amplifier, would it be feasible to add some speakers or i can just leave it as it is?
    If "SQ" ang goal, you won't need the 2nd row speakers. Pero admittedly bitin ang front row speakers lang sa MUX kasi ang laki ng space na kailangan i-fill.

    You can install focal coax naman without amp sa 2nd row then adjust nalang sa fader kung "SQ" mode ka that time. (that said, you'll need a 4 channel amp for the seps+subs) Or kung no subs naman pwede na ikabit coax sa 3/4 channel.

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    #2531
    Quote Originally Posted by Joke_Serious View Post
    goodmorning po newbie lang po sa sa car audio..hingi lang po sana ako advise mga sirs kung ano mas maganda ipares sa focal 165fx na amp between helix g4 at audison sr4..btw HU ko po pioneer AVH595BT..TIA po
    I think either of the 2 ok lang naman but marami akong nakikita na helix amp ang combo para sa focal expert.

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    #2532
    Quote Originally Posted by Sleepcare View Post
    I think either of the 2 ok lang naman but marami akong nakikita na helix amp ang combo para sa focal expert.
    Thank you sir helix na lang talaga siguro ako at mas mababa ang price nya compare kay audison..

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    #2533
    Quote Originally Posted by Joke_Serious View Post
    Thank you sir helix na lang talaga siguro ako at mas mababa ang price nya compare kay audison..
    how bout focal's new fpx line..4.400sq?

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    #2534
    Quote Originally Posted by ikloyputograpi View Post
    how bout focal's new fpx line..4.400sq?
    Sa totoo lang boss never pa ako nakakita ng focal seps na powered by focal amps. Usually audison/helix/rockford ang terno.

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    #2535
    Quote Originally Posted by ikloyputograpi View Post
    how bout focal's new fpx line..4.400sq?
    Highly recommended po kasi ng installer ko (simplesound) sir ang helix or audison..mas maganda daw po kasi ipair ang focal seps sa dalawa na yan sir..tnx sa mga inputs sir

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    #2536
    if in any case i would want to hook up a pair of coaxials with an amplifier, how many channels do i need? is it 4ch also?
    a pair for the woofer and a pair for the tweeters? is this how it works?, complete newbie regarding audio setups, i just don't want to end up paying when its not needed.

    say for example i would want to install a PC 165F a Focal Expert Coaxial having nom power of 70w RMS, with an impedance of 4 ohms. and as per what i've read at Crutchfield, amp should range between 75%-150% of what the speakers RMS is. so tentatively it will be 55w-105w range. so approximately a Helix G4 having * 4 Ohms 4 x 80 will be satisfactory right?..

    this (car audio) is just rocket science for me, no idea from the beginning, awaiting for your inputs guys, thanks in advance.

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    #2537
    Quote Originally Posted by Sleepcare View Post
    Sa totoo lang boss never pa ako nakakita ng focal seps na powered by focal amps. Usually audison/helix/rockford ang terno.
    i thought so too, majority of the focal seps are being paired with helix or audisons. i have only seen some post twice from timsaudiogarage being a full focal setup (seps with fpx amps), but then again, so you were saying focal fpx's line doesn't blend well with its speakers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Joke_Serious View Post
    Highly recommended po kasi ng installer ko (simplesound) sir ang helix or audison..mas maganda daw po kasi ipair ang focal seps sa dalawa na yan sir..tnx sa mga inputs sir
    probably, its quite confusing having built their (focal) own amps but doesn't juice well with their speakers, or i might be wrong, maybe financial constraint is also being a factor that's why we don't usually see a focal seps and an amplifier set? how much does a helix g4 and g1 cost by the way? i always see these combos from simplesound.

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    #2538
    Quote Originally Posted by ikloyputograpi View Post
    i thought so too, majority of the focal seps are being paired with helix or audisons. i have only seen some post twice from timsaudiogarage being a full focal setup (seps with fpx amps), but then again, so you were saying focal fpx's line doesn't blend well with its speakers?


    probably, its quite confusing having built their (focal) own amps but doesn't juice well with their speakers, or i might be wrong, maybe financial constraint is also being a factor that's why we don't usually see a focal seps and an amplifier set? how much does a helix g4 and g1 cost by the way? i always see these combos from simplesound.
    bukas pa po iinstall ni sir jonz ang unit sir..update lang po ako after..

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    #2539
    Quote Originally Posted by Joke_Serious View Post
    bukas pa po iinstall ni sir jonz ang unit sir..update lang po ako after..
    is it an integration install? what is your proposed setup btw, if you dont mind if i ask?
    how many days would you think they could finish the installation?
    hoping you would share your setup with pics here at tsikot.

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    #2540
    Quote Originally Posted by ikloyputograpi View Post
    is it an integration install? what is your proposed setup btw, if you dont mind if i ask?
    how many days would you think they could finish the installation?
    hoping you would share your setup with pics here at tsikot.
    amps lang po ang pinalagay ko kanina sir..audison po ang pinalagay ko tapos ginawang full active na lang po ni jonz ang focal 165f seps ko sir..malinis na nga po ang tunog hehehe heto na po set up ko ngayon sir HU - pioneer avh 595bt, focal 165f full active seps, audison sr4 amps at focal bp20 bomba active sub..NOTE*** di ko po isahang bili yan sir one at a time lang pero nabuo din sa awa ng Diyos

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