audio set-up for beginners [continued]

[jhnkvn]

Butyl is rubber. Asphalt.. is well.. asphalt.

How to tell them apart? Hard to do. I mean you don't want to light your doors up right?

Best bet is to simply start by purchasing stuff that you're sure is made of butyl.

Based on your posts dito sa tsikot and sa KAC. Di ko talaga alam if your installer is recommending you for a second layer (Tsikot) or not (85% na daw yun one layer -- KAC).

[Rakenrol101]

Sir jhnkvn,

I have a question regarding power handling ng head unit, I recently had a Pioneer DEH-X2650U installed on my Suzuki Swift, I want to change both front and rear speakers, for now im not planning to get an amp. When i do choose a speaker will speakers with 2ohms work well with the head unit? or should i use 4-8ohms? I plan sana to get a JBL GTO608c for front and a JBL coaxial sa likod.

Thanks

[jhnkvn]

Sir jhnkvn,

I have a question regarding power handling ng head unit, I recently had a Pioneer DEH-X2650U installed on my Suzuki Swift, I want to change both front and rear speakers, for now im not planning to get an amp. When i do choose a speaker will speakers with 2ohms work well with the head unit? or should i use 4-8ohms? I plan sana to get a JBL GTO608c for front and a JBL coaxial sa likod.

Thanks

Try to get the 4ohms as much as possible. As every electrical engineer knows, ohms is a measure of resistance -- in this case, the flow of electricity. The lower it is, the less resistance there is. Problem is, most head units aren't stable at 2 ohms. However, there's no problem in using 4 ohms and 8 ohm drivers.

The good thing here is that most car audio drivers are 4 ohms and home audio, 8 ohms. Where the hell did you get the 2 ohm driver? :O

[Rakenrol101]

Try to get the 4ohms as much as possible. As every electrical engineer knows, ohms is a measure of resistance -- in this case, the flow of electricity. The lower it is, the less resistance there is. Problem is, most head units aren't stable at 2 ohms. However, there's no problem in using 4 ohms and 8 ohm drivers.

The good thing here is that most car audio drivers are 4 ohms and home audio, 8 ohms. Where the hell did you get the 2 ohm driver? :O

Thanks for the reply sir, I called Perfect Circle Banawe and they said that the GTO series are 2ohms? and im trying to research if my head unit is capable in running that

[X-salta]

Sir jhnkvn,

I have a question regarding power handling ng head unit, I recently had a Pioneer DEH-X2650U installed on my Suzuki Swift, I want to change both front and rear speakers, for now im not planning to get an amp. When i do choose a speaker will speakers with 2ohms work well with the head unit? or should i use 4-8ohms? I plan sana to get a JBL GTO608c for front and a JBL coaxial sa likod.

Thanks

wala nang GTO 608C sir, GTO 609C na ang pumalit, SRP is 4,800 pesos sa Perfect Circle (Authorized Distributor)

[brod78]

may shop/s ba kayo na mare recommend that
are good in installing deadeners? balak ko magpalagay this weekend
sa front doors ng revo ko muna at kung effective siya eh baka lahat
ng door panels eh palagyan ko na....nagbabasa basa pa ako sa
sound setup kaya sound deadening muna uunahin ko hehe....salamat!

[jhnkvn]

may shop/s ba kayo na mare recommend that
are good in installing deadeners? balak ko magpalagay this weekend
sa front doors ng revo ko muna at kung effective siya eh baka lahat
ng door panels eh palagyan ko na....nagbabasa basa pa ako sa
sound setup kaya sound deadening muna uunahin ko hehe....salamat!

A lot of installers know how to install deadeners naman. It's not a skill-intensive task and the most you need is common sense and a heatgun -- some do it DIY in fact.

[wezz_zzew]

Bili ka na lang heatgun and deadening materials tapos DIY like me. Mas maganda pag ganun kasi ikaw didiskarte kung saan panel pa ng auto ang kailangan dagdagan kesa naman pabalik balik ka sa shop tapos doble doble gastos. Yung sa akin binili ko lang dati yung deadening for 150 petot yata per meter kumpara sa mga shop na more than 1k minsan. Sarap pa ng pakiramdam pag natapos mo na yung project dahil atat ka na subukan kung ano ang improvement sa sounds mo.



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[brod78]

thanks jhnkvn & wezz.
unfortunately i think im not yet prepared to tinker with a car so
i've asked a quotation from mickys autosound and it's 4.5k for
the front doors only....a bit expensive???

[kenzie]

thanks jhnkvn & wezz.
unfortunately i think im not yet prepared to tinker with a car so
i've asked a quotation from mickys autosound and it's 4.5k for
the front doors only....a bit expensive???

Pa quote ka din kay Jeff Tan of araneta cars baka mas makamura ka dun bait un si boss jeff


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[brod78]

thanks ken...try ko maginquire kay jeff tan tomorrow morning.

[kenzie]

thanks ken...try ko maginquire kay jeff tan tomorrow morning.

Yan number nya try m text kng gising yan reply yan sipag sumagot sa text un haha





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[brod78]

^^ hahaha actually inadd ko siya sa fb...at sinagot niya agad ako...2k for the two front doors...umm acoustipad daw gamit nila...

[kenzie]

^^ hahaha actually inadd ko siya sa fb...at sinagot niya agad ako...2k for the two front doors...umm acoustipad daw gamit nila...

Yup acoustipad butyl yan ginamit nya sa vios ko malinis gawa saka bantay Jeff tao nya mabuti .... ano gamit ni mickey ?








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[jhnkvn]

Mickey's 4.8k quote is probably of StandartPlast Silver (StP - Home) which is an internationally known sound damping and deadening company founded in Russia.

Brand name power lang yan. For a more accurate quote, it's best to ask how much do they sell their sheets. That way, alam mo yun price difference of the material (sheets) and labor and this could give you a better negotiating leverage.

I don't usually discriminate on deadening. Habol mo naman dyan is mass -- the brand name? Not to much unless you're willing to spend extra. I do appreciate my StP's easy-installation process though and they use higher grade butyl (yep, meron din yan quality grades) for their products so if you're competing, these are usually justifiable expenses. If not, stick with the OEM mass market butyl ones.

[ctrl]

Yup acoustipad butyl yan ginamit nya sa vios ko malinis gawa saka bantay Jeff tao nya mabuti .... ano gamit ni mickey ?








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akala ko asphalt tong acoustipad, parang nabangit na to before? balak ko din sana kasi before palagay e. pero nung sinabi na asphalt daw, nagback out ako.

[Rakenrol101]

Mga Sir,

How do i get intouch with Jeff Tan and saan ang shop nya?

Thanks

[brod78]

Mga Sir,

How do i get intouch with Jeff Tan and saan ang shop nya?

Thanks

Araneta Car Accessories along araneta ave...malapit lang sa SM Centerpoint..
add mo siya sa fb dun ka magtanong at mabilis naman siyang sumagot :-)

[sleepyantz]

Hi sirs,

ask lang po ako about my planned set up newbie pa lang po ako so not really sure if good enough na po tong mga planned specs ko.

I've got a 2014 avanza 1.3j, I'm planning to upgrade the speakers currently it has only front stock.

Front and Back speakers would be 2way coaxials contemplating on pioneer,sony,jbl brands. these will be hooked up to my head unit

I will stick with my HU as it already has usb and aux and preouts at the back. Based on specsheet it has 18w rms.

For subwoofer im contemplating on

1 Kicker comp 12" then house it in a 2.27 cu ft ported box based n kicker comp manual.

-or-

1 jbl gt5-1204br loaded enclosure.

amp for subs would be sound magus dk600.

Im willing to shell out around 20kish for the set up. I only want a decent sound system with a good bump in the bass.

questions...

1. will the hu be enough to power 4 coaxials? im seeing 40-50watts rms for each speaker based on the brands mentioned above

2. is sound magus dk600 a good amp for my kicker or jbl?
3. which of the two is better kicker or the jbl?

by the way i'm from cebu and we don't have much shops to go to with car audio. if you guys have other suggestions i will have to check for availability.

[markygy]

*sleep,
1. Yes it will be enough but chances are the loud volume of the subs might over power the sound from the coaxials.
2. Yes
3. The JBL subs.

I suggest get a 4 channel amp. to power 1 set of either coaxials or components for the front and a sub on the rear. No need to add speakers on the rear.