Why no proper coupe for BMW?

**squala** · December 18th, 2005 03:27 AM

Here, I'm talking about a Porsche 911 rival. They make brilliant engines and chassis, but missed out on one model that could have been a proper GT. The current M3 coupe is still not a pure sports car, while the 6-Series is too big it's more of a luxury car. The 911 Carrera S can beat an M6 in a twisty road despite the latter having over a hundred hp more.

A true GT has to have not just great power, but also usable power. The 911 is around for over 40 years now, and they're getting closer and closer to perfecting it. Current models are also very dependable already. It's now the all-around personal car - an everyday driver that can also be used to unadulterated fun.

I'm pretty sure BMW can create something like that, and perhaps even sell at a cheaper price than the Porsche. Other small manufacturers like Morgan outsource engines from them, like the powerful 4.4-liter V8 seen in the X5. The defunct Z8 had enough to go head-to-head with a Ferrari 360, but for some reason, it didn't draw as many fans as expected. The 8-Series also wasn't that successful following the fame of the original 6-Series in the 80s. So I guess 8 isn't really a lucky number for them.

Yes, I'm thinking of a Z6. If they can come up with something as nimble as a 911, with a range of powerful engines to boot, it will certainly be great. They've got the philosophy already, so why not?

**wren** · December 18th, 2005 03:43 AM

porsche...there is no substitute.

porsche has cornered that market already, so few dare to venture in. besides, how can you improve on perfection?

**theveed** · December 18th, 2005 09:43 AM

Simple, they're not interested in that market.

Honestly, such markets don't make a lot of money.

**Wouie** · December 18th, 2005 10:04 AM

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**pixelparadigm** · December 18th, 2005 10:14 AM

But for a name like BMW, sometimes should they focus not only on profitability, but also on pride.

Volkswagen, for example, created the Bugatti Veyron, the fastest car, or the fastest car that would ever be on the earth, for the sake of a "Technical Exercise" rather than making a profit from it.

**BlueBimmer** · December 18th, 2005 10:29 AM

prestige and profit. maybe thats enough for them.

IMO the M5/M6 alone beats the Porsche Cayman S or 911. and i hate how all porsches look 90% the same.

**theveed** · December 18th, 2005 10:49 AM

Pride has little to do with coming out with a coupe when you have a 4-door sedan that can go toe-to-toe to a 911 anyway. That's a bigger accomplishment for them than coming out with a coupe.

In addition, there's no direct match up for 911s anyway until others start coming up with rear mounted boxer engines.

Their market rival is MB, Audi, Lexus and Jag... I think they'll stick to that.

**BlueBimmer** · December 18th, 2005 11:42 AM

yep, when you say BMW, Porsche isnt exactly the first rival auto manufacturer that comes to mind. more like MERC and AUDI.

**ghosthunter** · December 18th, 2005 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by pixelparadigm

Volkswagen, for example, created the Bugatti Veyron, the fastest car, or the fastest car that would ever be on the earth, for the sake of a "Technical Exercise" rather than making a profit from it.

saw that car on Top Gear... 1000hp factory stock.