Avanza Engine Modification

[xda2jojo]

For INFO To all, walang silbi ang Voltage Stabilizer na yan...
Inside the Voltage Stabilizer is a bunch of small Electrolytic in microFarads.
Walang effect yan sa PURE DC Voltage ng car Battery.
Unless otherwise:
1.) Using the bulk Capacitor in FARADS for your High Wattage Amp.
2.) Or our battery voltage is higher than 12V(13.4V), let's say 24V then the VS is act as a regulator(Stabilize) to maintain the output of 12V.

There's no technical bases sa Voltage Stabilizer using small MIcroFarads capacitor.
Any link or lab test kung mayroon man ay wala.
Fake or original, pareha lang, sayang money mo dyan.

Kahit bigyan or bayaran pa ako para ikabit ko sa car ko, sorry nalang I won't put my car at risk.

[Islaw*Palitaw]

sir islaw, ingat lang sa pagbili ng voltage stabilizer kasi yung raizin na brand marami din fake, research mo muna sa google dami dun discussion re voltage stabilizer and how to identify fake, yung sa akin nabili ko Turboup F60 assembled in taiwan using jdm (japan development market) parts. also search mo sa ebay "voltage stabilizer", dyan marami naka list na raizin pivot and other brands, meron dun fake and original, yung price range ng mga voltage stabilizer ay from $18 to $200 para magkaroon ka ng idea if binibili mo fake or original.

heto nabili ko for $39.00, pinabili ko sa pinsan ko thru ebay then padala sa balikbayan box

For me, it doesn't matter whether it's a fake or genuine, anyway a Voltage Stabilizer is just a passive component that is made up of bunch of high capacity capacitors used to aid and assist voltage/current supply from the battery during high current draining engine modes... so kahit fake, capacitor pa din yun, hindi nga lang genuine PIVOT brand capacitors kaya OKs lang.

[hans sebastian]

For INFO To all, walang silbi ang Voltage Stabilizer na yan...
Inside the Voltage Stabilizer is a bunch of small Electrolytic in microFarads.
Walang effect yan sa PURE DC Voltage ng car Battery.
Unless otherwise:
1.) Using the bulk Capacitor in FARADS for your High Wattage Amp.
2.) Or our battery voltage is higher than 12V(13.4V), let's say 24V then the VS is act as a regulator(Stabilize) to maintain the output of 12V.

There's no technical bases sa Voltage Stabilizer using small MIcroFarads capacitor.
Any link or lab test kung mayroon man ay wala.
Fake or original, pareha lang, sayang money mo dyan.

Kahit bigyan or bayaran pa ako para ikabit ko sa car ko, sorry nalang I won't put my car at risk.

on newer model cars maybe small ang effect nito pero my old car honda city type z e kitang kita ko effect yun can put the volume up of the stereo without the ligths blinking you can beep beep your horn as long as you want at di babagsak luryente mo o manghina busina mo im using hella pot pot before sa auto ko,torque ng auto ko lumakas din,on newer cars which still has good electricity flow hinde mo mararamdaman ang epekto but on older ones kitang kita yan...

http://www.pivotracing.com/product/VS-M

[woohoo]

I myself am more interested in installing a battery monitor (only), like my old DieHard. I wonder where I can find one?



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[mikibabs]

boss woohoo meron ako nabili na parang ganun na device plug-in sa cigarette lighter socket, yung mga indicators nya different colors led, sa handyman ko nabili sa bacolod, around P400.00 sorry wala akong pix, meron din sila digital pero around P1,500 i think.

[meledson]

^^^ Sorry to say, that does not work as advertised.

Voltage stabilizers na nakakabit sa battery and/or engine, theoreticaly for me, does not work, pero I am keeping an open mind.

[hans sebastian]

^^^ Sorry to say, that does not work as advertised.

Voltage stabilizers na nakakabit sa battery and/or engine, theoreticaly for me, does not work, pero I am keeping an open mind.

siguro sir sa mga bagong model na kotse but on my car before kita ko naman ang pag babago and i think lahat din ng gumamit sa honda type z club of the philippines mag sasabi na its effective anyway the latest model ng type z is 2002

[xda2jojo]

on newer model cars maybe small ang effect nito pero my old car honda city type z e kitang kita ko effect yun can put the volume up of the stereo without the ligths blinking you can beep beep your horn as long as you want at di babagsak luryente mo o manghina busina mo im using hella pot pot before sa auto ko,torque ng auto ko lumakas din,on newer cars which still has good electricity flow hinde mo mararamdaman ang epekto but on older ones kitang kita yan...

http://www.pivotracing.com/product/VS-M

Still I don't believe sir.
Even my counterpart Australian and Jap Electronic tech don't believe it.

Sa old car ko na 92 model(Lancer GLxi), same din probs sa'yo.
After rewiring and adding DIY grounding kit, na-restore ko lahat ang lugar na grabi ang resistance.
Maybe not 95% restored, pero di dahil sa VS kundi sa grounding.

And ops....may link ako nakita regarding VS:
http://www.peony888.com/VS/sobogus.htm
Simple circuit with caps na nasa microfards....micro
I doubt what inside the pivot and rezin.
Parang made in singapore lang yata eto, may jap website ba yan sila?
How can you stabilize the Voltage when the input is same as output using ONLY MICROfarads...gosh!
Even the bulky Capacitor in FARADS needs a good and expensive Battery for there AMPERE sucking sound amplifier.
Kung sa bisaya pa, mangilad lang para makakwarta.

[xda2jojo]

^^^ Sorry to say, that does not work as advertised.

Voltage stabilizers na nakakabit sa battery and/or engine, theoreticaly for me, does not work, pero I am keeping an open mind.

Well, I am also an open minded person but in terms of electronic circuitry, a simple circuit can deliver a "BIG Output", then I need a fact and explanation(tech info of individual group of circuit how it works), why the damned capacitor in small farads....ops a very very small farads(in micro) can stabilize a voltage with BIG load(Engine start).



PS:
Anyway mag DIY ako ng VS, same circuit na mga benebenta, but I am going to add more caps, then gawa ako actual test with and without it.

EDIT:
Pivot jap website using google:
http://pivotjp.com/

[Islaw*Palitaw]

For INFO To all, walang silbi ang Voltage Stabilizer na yan...
Inside the Voltage Stabilizer is a bunch of small Electrolytic in microFarads.
Walang effect yan sa PURE DC Voltage ng car Battery.
Unless otherwise:
1.) Using the bulk Capacitor in FARADS for your High Wattage Amp.
2.) Or our battery voltage is higher than 12V(13.4V), let's say 24V then the VS is act as a regulator(Stabilize) to maintain the output of 12V.

There's no technical bases sa Voltage Stabilizer using small MIcroFarads capacitor.
Any link or lab test kung mayroon man ay wala.
Fake or original, pareha lang, sayang money mo dyan.

Kahit bigyan or bayaran pa ako para ikabit ko sa car ko, sorry nalang I won't put my car at risk.

Actually you have a point there Sir Jojo, that's why it's just called voltage stabilizer (passive) and not voltage regulator (active) and most VS are made up of high value capacitor (in Farad and not in small microfarad). If you happen to encounter a VS with effective capacity in microfarad, throw it away cause it's useless since it will not store suitable amount of current to supplement and assist your DC power source.


On the other hand, what you mentioned in item 2 is what they usually referred to as voltage limiter which clips voltage to a certain threshold level to avoid over voltage which is different from VS where it's effective voltage always follows whatever is your power source is.


Hindi naman siguro at risk si Vanzy if we install VS. For the warranty - maybe it's true, but on the operational risk side, whether it would destroy, cause an accident or even blow up your car, I would say that the probability of occurrence that it would be more of a risk issue than being a nice-to-have add-on is highly improbable to occur since it is just a passive component.

Well on the monetary side, sayang talaga money if it doesn't serve it's purpose... sabi nga ng anak ko in one of his pre-school jingle that goes somethin like... "Sayang lang ang lobo, binili ko na lang sana ng pagkain ito, nabusog pa ako"... hehehehe...

[xda2jojo]

Ok i did some net research
According to the net, can stabilize sparks.
Hmmmn, paano kaya yon na nasa battery ang connection ng VS?
Eh, ang nagbibigay ng voltage sa SP eh ang ignition coil which is HV na eto.
Kung pangit ang spark di yan sa batt, dahil yan sa ignition coil/sa High tension wire/or sa SP.

[xda2jojo]

Hindi naman siguro at risk si Vanzy if we install VS. For the warranty - maybe it's true, but on the operational risk side, whether it would destroy, cause an accident or even blow up your car, I would say that the probability of occurrence that it would be more of a risk issue than being a nice-to-have add-on is highly improbable to occur since it is just a passive component..

Maybe mali lang gamit ko na word na "risk".
If I know the actual circuit of this VS, try ko mag DIY(Mag-assemble) para matest natin.

...most VS are made up of high value capacitor (in Farad and not in small microfarad).

in FARAD, using small capacitor(physical) in VS?
Hi-tech na yan sir a,
I only encountered a super small super capacitor act as a temporary battery(1 month before ma-drain) for RAM(EGM), pero microfarads parin eto.
Yon na ang hi-tech na encounter ko sa mga capacitor.
Na amazed ako sa mga Farads dahil sa Laki nila, physical look.
Susmeo, 1 Farad palang, malaki pa eto sa braso ng anak ko, di yan sakto sa magandang transparent na colored casing ng VS.

[yapoy86]

mas recommended ko pa mag kabit ng 2 or 3 farad capacitor mas makakatulong yung sa sudden current demand ng vehicle.. kung micro farad lang wala yun silbi..

also for grounding wires may maximum recommended length lang from the battery.. the shorter the better.. kung ma notice nyo from the negative terminal ng battery, next connection nung grounding wire sa body agad mga 1-2 feet away lang tapos next is engine na..

for older cars madalas poor na yung mga connections lalo na sa fuse box (changing the fuses may also help).. installing additional grounding is recommended pero dont forget na you also need to improve your positive side... ganda nga ng negative connections mo loose naman yung positive... bala wala din

[xda2jojo]

mas recommended ko pa mag kabit ng 2 or 3 farad capacitor mas makakatulong yung sa sudden current demand ng vehicle.. kung micro farad lang wala yun silbi..

also for grounding wires may maximum recommended length lang from the battery.. the shorter the better.. kung ma notice nyo from the negative terminal ng battery, next connection nung grounding wire sa body agad mga 1-2 feet away lang tapos next is engine na..

for older cars madalas poor na yung mga connections lalo na sa fuse box (changing the fuses may also help).. installing additional grounding is recommended pero dont forget na you also need to improve your positive side... ganda nga ng negative connections mo loose naman yung positive... bala wala din

I am thinking tuloy using a mosfet instead a mechanical relay and a a 24v lipoly battery with huge amp stepdown AVR para stable ang voltage sa future project ko for my old car....hmmmn.

[waikiki83]

mga sir ask ko lang may difference din po ba ito kahit bago yung avanza ko?
kasi may nabasa ako dito rin na halos walang effect pag bago pa yung car e....

please advise po gusto ko rin sana pakabit lalo na kung makakaimprove ng fc...

ty po...

[xda2jojo]

mga sir ask ko lang may difference din po ba ito kahit bago yung avanza ko?
kasi may nabasa ako dito rin na halos walang effect pag bago pa yung car e....

please advise po gusto ko rin sana pakabit lalo na kung makakaimprove ng fc...

ty po...

no diff, butingting lang yan sa mga bagong car.

[waikiki83]

*xda2jojo

Thanks sir for the clarification...

[xda2jojo]

*xda2jojo

Thanks sir for the clarification...

Teka grounding kit ba ang tinatanong mo sir?
Kung grounding kit sa bagong car, walang effect yan, posibling magkaroon lang ng ground loop ang sasakyan mo sa daming ground wire na umiikot ikot sa loob, can also possibly cause a noise interference and hum to your audio.
Ganoon din sa old cars kung lagay ka ng lagay ng ground kahit saan sa loob ng car.
Good grounding kit for old cars can restored it upto 80% to 90% or possibly higher engine performance.

Kung VS naman na naka-market, New car and old, no effect at all, IMHO.
Just like what sir yapoy86 says, 1 FARAD or 3 FARAD BIG BULKY CAPACITOR is much much better than marketed VS.
1 FARAD like this:

or this one:

White Cap is worth 14,000 pesos for 1 FARAD only.
That's damned OVERKILL using it without HIGH Wattage Audio setup.

[woohoo]

boss woohoo meron ako nabili na parang ganun na device plug-in sa cigarette lighter socket, yung mga indicators nya different colors led, sa handyman ko nabili sa bacolod, around P400.00 sorry wala akong pix, meron din sila digital pero around P1,500 i think.

Thanks for the tip!

Sana makabili na ako nito. Very useful ito pag A/T ang sasakyan, e.

:2thumbsup:

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[Islaw*Palitaw]

Teka grounding kit ba ang tinatanong mo sir?
Kung grounding kit sa bagong car, walang effect yan, posibling magkaroon lang ng ground loop ang sasakyan mo sa daming ground wire na umiikot ikot sa loob, can also possibly cause a noise interference and hum to your audio.
Ganoon din sa old cars kung lagay ka ng lagay ng ground kahit saan sa loob ng car.
Good grounding kit for old cars can restored it upto 80% to 90% or possibly higher engine performance.

Kung VS naman na naka-market, New car and old, no effect at all, IMHO.
Just like what sir yapoy86 says, 1 FARAD or 3 FARAD BIG BULKY CAPACITOR is much much better than marketed VS.
1 FARAD like this:

or this one:

White Cap is worth 14,000 pesos for 1 FARAD only.
That's damned OVERKILL using it without HIGH Wattage Audio setup.

I think these are old school high wattage capacitors. Usually, Voltage Stabilizers nowadays contains what they call an EDLC capacitors AKA "Super Capacitors" which is miniature in size and is capable of up to 5,000 Farads. This what makes these VS small in size like this particular VS brand which has a capacitance of 4.5 Farad (4500000 uF)