"Tamang OC lang" - a newbie's guide to car appearance maintenance

[Archerfish]

salamat mga master. gastos pala talaga magkaron ng car hehe. parang 2 girlfriend ko tuloy. buti na lang hndi selosa yung isa.

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Another illustration is, a car is likened to a medical student who for the longest time keeps on studying but never graduates.
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[Flipo]

I was about to buy the widely talk about Sonax Bright Shine Detailer now available at Blade to put on top of the TW Ice Seal N Shine, but I guess I have to put that on hold and wait a little while to try the new products of Turtle Wax.

NEW TURTLE WAX Hybrid Solutions products unveiled for 22 !! - YouTube

The Empire strike back!

So it seems keep stumbling on to Hybrid Ceramic products on youtube, only this time it's from Meguiars. This doesn't really surprise us as Turtle Wax is throwing down the gauntlet of Ceramic infused products, it's only natural that other major players would answer back. I'm not sure how far the lineup goes, but this is what I've found so far.

Meguiars Hybrid Ceramic Detailer.
44 Page Not Found | Meguiar's

Megauirs Hybrid Ceramic Liquid Wax.
44 Page Not Found | Meguiar's

Meguiars Hybrid Ceramic Quik Clay Kit.
44 Page Not Found | Meguiar's

On top of this, they have some Ceramic infused Professional Line Products, as well as some newer cleaners and a IPA style wipe. Not sure if they're just a re-packaging of the retail versions or different formulas, but it looks like they offer some bulk sizes.

Meguiars 799 Pro Ceramic Bead Booster.
44 Page Not Found | Meguiar's
https://www.meguiars.com/professiona...intain-ceramic

Meguairs M122 Surface Prep.
https://www.meguiars.com/professiona...12201-1-gallon

Meguiars M788 Deep Crystal Ceramic Paint Coating.
https://www.meguiars.com/professiona...eramic-coating

Meguiars M27 Hybrid Ceramic Sealant.
https://www.meguiars.com/professiona...nt-m2716-16-oz
https://www.meguiars.com/professiona...ealant-m2701-1

And the other products (Irong removing spray, dressing, wheel and tires cleaner, and a APC).

https://www.meguiars.com/professiona...emover-without

https://www.meguiars.com/professiona...-both-interior

https://www.meguiars.com/professiona...out-using-acid

https://www.meguiars.com/professiona...de-all-purpose

All products will be available January 1st, 2020 according to their pages. IF these perform well, I might actually replace a lot of my chemicals with them, as I find the Megs Pro Products to be good value and well performing in all areas but paint protection. It's interesting to note that their Ceramic coating appears to be a proper coating in bottles for the professional line, and not a spray type product like their consumer line.

[zechs]

Parang sira ung mga links na post mo? Hehe 404 not found

Ung Deep Crystal Coating nila lumang product na. Never released dito sa atin sa pagkaalam ko.

Ito ung M799. Standalone sealant or dilute 1:3 to use as clay lubricant or QD.

[Flipo]

The Empire strike back!

So it seems keep stumbling on to Hybrid Ceramic products on youtube, only this time it's from Meguiars. This doesn't really surprise us as Turtle Wax is throwing down the gauntlet of Ceramic infused products, it's only natural that other major players would answer back. I'm not sure how far the lineup goes, but this is what I've found so far.

Meguiars Hybrid Ceramic Detailer.
44 Page Not Found | Meguiar's

Megauirs Hybrid Ceramic Liquid Wax.
44 Page Not Found | Meguiar's

Meguiars Hybrid Ceramic Quik Clay Kit.
44 Page Not Found | Meguiar's

On top of this, they have some Ceramic infused Professional Line Products, as well as some newer cleaners and a IPA style wipe. Not sure if they're just a re-packaging of the retail versions or different formulas, but it looks like they offer some bulk sizes.

Meguiars 799 Pro Ceramic Bead Booster.
44 Page Not Found | Meguiar's
44 Page Not Found | Meguiar's

Meguairs M122 Surface Prep.
https://www.meguiars.com/professiona...12201-1-gallon

Meguiars M788 Deep Crystal Ceramic Paint Coating.
https://www.meguiars.com/professiona...eramic-coating

Meguiars M27 Hybrid Ceramic Sealant.
https://www.meguiars.com/professiona...nt-m2716-16-oz
https://www.meguiars.com/professiona...ealant-m2701-1

And the other products (Irong removing spray, dressing, wheel and tires cleaner, and a APC).

https://www.meguiars.com/professiona...emover-without

https://www.meguiars.com/professiona...-both-interior

https://www.meguiars.com/professiona...out-using-acid

https://www.meguiars.com/professiona...de-all-purpose

All products will be available January 1st, 2020 according to their pages. IF these perform well, I might actually replace a lot of my chemicals with them, as I find the Megs Pro Products to be good value and well performing in all areas but paint protection. It's interesting to note that their Ceramic coating appears to be a proper coating in bottles for the professional line, and not a spray type product like their consumer line.

Meguiars Hybrid Ceramic Detailer.
https://www.meguiars.com/automotive/...-gloss-enhance

Meguiars Hybrid Ceramic Liquid Wax.
https://www.meguiars.com/automotive/...ction-easy-use

Meguiars Hybrid Ceramic Quik Clay Kit.
https://www.meguiars.com/automotive/...hybrid-ceramic

Meguiars 799 Pro Ceramic Bead Booster.
https://www.meguiars.com/professiona...tain-ceramic-0
https://www.meguiars.com/professiona...intain-ceramic

[darwinlsantos]

hi genetlemen,

patulong naman po pano maalis to, ganto po ang ginawa ko. i cleanse my windshield using invisible glass cleanser, tapos gumamit ako ng clay while lubricating it with warm water sinundan ko kasi si crisfix sa youtube. then after that nilinis ko ulit ng glass cleanser. tapos i applied micromagic rain repellent. then for some weeks tuwang tuwa ako kasi ang linaw ng windshelield ko. kahit heavy rain totoo yung sinasabi nila na i can even drive without using wipers kasi nga nag beeds tlga. then after some times bigla na lng lumitaw yang white haze na yan. hindi sya fog e. pupunasan ko sya kaso babalik din agad after ilang seconds tapos same yung mark spot at hugis nya, kahit anong gawin ko ayaw tlga matanggal. i used acid rain remover wa epek padin. i even reapplied micro magic kaso parang lalong lumala. nakakafrustrate tlga. alam mo yung naasar ako sa sarili ko kasi di ako mapakali sa kotse(syempre newbie) tas bigla nagkaganyan na sya. ano bang tawag jan at pano po ba yan maaalis. sana may nakakaalam. salamat master

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[Archerfish]

hi genetlemen,

. then after some times bigla na lng lumitaw yang white haze na yan. hindi sya fog e. pupunasan ko sya kaso babalik din agad after ilang seconds tapos same yung mark spot at hugis nya, kahit anong gawin ko ayaw tlga matanggal. i used acid rain remover wa epek padin. i even reapplied micro magic kaso parang lalong lumala. nakakafrustrate tlga. alam mo yung naasar ako sa sarili ko kasi di ako mapakali sa kotse(syempre newbie) tas bigla nagkaganyan na sya. ano bang tawag jan at pano po ba yan maaalis. sana may nakakaalam. salamat master

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Sorry to hear that... I know this is a long shot since you already used acid rain remover, but you might want to try Microtex Glaz Stainz' Out.

[ninjababez]

hi genetlemen,

patulong naman po pano maalis to, ganto po ang ginawa ko. i cleanse my windshield using invisible glass cleanser, tapos gumamit ako ng clay while lubricating it with warm water sinundan ko kasi si crisfix sa youtube. then after that nilinis ko ulit ng glass cleanser. tapos i applied micromagic rain repellent. then for some weeks tuwang tuwa ako kasi ang linaw ng windshelield ko. kahit heavy rain totoo yung sinasabi nila na i can even drive without using wipers kasi nga nag beeds tlga. then after some times bigla na lng lumitaw yang white haze na yan. hindi sya fog e. pupunasan ko sya kaso babalik din agad after ilang seconds tapos same yung mark spot at hugis nya, kahit anong gawin ko ayaw tlga matanggal. i used acid rain remover wa epek padin. i even reapplied micro magic kaso parang lalong lumala. nakakafrustrate tlga. alam mo yung naasar ako sa sarili ko kasi di ako mapakali sa kotse(syempre newbie) tas bigla nagkaganyan na sya. ano bang tawag jan at pano po ba yan maaalis. sana may nakakaalam. salamat master

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sa labas ba yan? if yes, sa small portion nya ay try mo daanan ng blade. tignan mo kung parang may material na umangat or madurog. malamang isa sa chemical na ginamit mo HINDI na cure, nalinis or na buff ng maayos

[Deestone]

Hi, just want to ask if how much is the typical cost for a full body paint for Toyota Innova. Planning to have it repainted since I can see some paint deterioration in some areas especially the car roof.

[darwinlsantos]

sa labas ba yan? if yes, sa small portion nya ay try mo daanan ng blade. tignan mo kung parang may material na umangat or madurog. malamang isa sa chemical na ginamit mo HINDI na cure, nalinis or na buff ng maayos

yes master sa labas sya. ayan sya o pag mag start pa lang. tas maya maya lalaki na gang sa maging ganun na.

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[zechs]

Almost a month update on the Microtex crystal fx, still beads like crazy and water also sheets quickly.

Just to refresh, I applied two coats of crystal fx on the panels. No reapplication of product. If I recall correctly, around 6-7 carwashes up to today. Also this car is parked exposed to the elements (sun, heat and rain).

[monty_GTV]

Almost a month update on the Microtex crystal fx, still beads like crazy and water also sheets quickly.

Just to refresh, I applied two coats of crystal fx on the panels. No reapplication of product. If I recall correctly, around 6-7 carwashes up to today. Also this car is parked exposed to the elements (sun, heat and rain).

looks like a durable LSP, and a good hydrophobic properties too[emoji106]

may i see the bottle? i searched for microtex crystal fx and im seeing the Glaz Crystal FX which is made by mtx or formerly microtex, pareho ba?

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[polar01]

looks like a durable LSP, and a good hydrophobic properties too[emoji106]

may i see the bottle? i searched for microtex crystal fx and im seeing the Glaz Crystal FX which is made by mtx or formerly microtex, pareho ba?

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Microtex/Glaz Crystal FX are one and the same. Using it too. Satisfied with its hydrophobic properties. Applied it every other month.

I went to the Auto Saloon *SMX the other day and bought 1 gal of the Robert Doyle Beadmaker. Will try this next.



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[jojopad]

I went to the Auto Saloon *SMX the other day and bought 1 gal of the Robert Doyle Beadmaker. Will try this next.

Is this the same with P&S Beadmaker? I use this every after carwash as a drying aid. Enhanced gloss and durable hydrophobic properties. Makes it easy to wash the car every after 2 weeks.

[polar01]

Is this the same with P&S Beadmaker? I use this every after carwash as a drying aid. Enhanced gloss and durable hydrophobic properties. Makes it easy to wash the car every after 2 weeks.

Yes, same lang bro. How often do you apply? The sales person said that i can apply to the windshield/glass as well as headlights to protect from watermarks.


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[monty_GTV]

Microtex/Glaz Crystal FX are one and the same. Using it too. Satisfied with its hydrophobic properties. Applied it every other month.

I went to the Auto Saloon *SMX the other day and bought 1 gal of the Robert Doyle Beadmaker. Will try this next.



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okay, thanks for the info. and how much is a gallon of beadmaker cost naman?[emoji6]

so much of the nano-coatings and hydrophobic sprays nowadays. no doubt they seem to be making the traditional carnauba paste waxes obsolete. and i still have cans of paste waxes in my detailing box[emoji85]

my TW seal and shine and new ceramic coating is on the way. i like to try that crystal fx, the beadmaker (nice name)...is it time to ditch the time consuming paste wax and go for the easy and more convenient synthetic spray? but wax then topped with spray sealant sounds nice though[emoji4]

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[polar01]

okay, thanks for the info. and how much is a gallon of beadmaker cost naman?[emoji6]

so much of the nano-coatings and hydrophobic sprays nowadays. no doubt they seem to be making the traditional carnauba paste waxes obsolete. and i still have cans of paste waxes in my detailing box[emoji85]

my TW seal and shine and new ceramic coating is on the way. i like to try that crystal fx, the beadmaker (nice name)...is it time to ditch the time consuming paste wax and go for the easy and more convenient synthetic spray? but wax then topped with spray sealant sounds nice though[emoji4]

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The 1 gal cost me around 2500 after discount. Their 500 ml is ₱600. They also have in 1 liter but forgot the cost.

Waxing is a stress buster for me so i will continue to do that usual routine and top up/maintain with spray on until the next sched to wax.[emoji4]


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[monty_GTV]

The 1 gal cost me around 2500 after discount. Their 500 ml is ₱600. They also have in 1 liter but forgot the cost.

Waxing is a stress buster for me so i will continue to do that usual routine and top up/maintain with spray on until the next sched to wax.[emoji4]


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okay thanks again. a gallon goes a loooong way and save some pesoses in the long run.

yeah, i stiil believe nothing beats the old school wax on/wax off way[emoji23]

so in your next waxing schedule, how do you remove the tough and durable spray sealants? do you use heavy shampoo, paint decontamination, APC, degreaser and the like to prepped the paint? does IPA wipe enough to remove the residue(s) of spray sealants before applying a carnauba wax?

review videos (like the tw seal & shine) showed that spray sealants or similar sprays with hydrophobic properties are that durable and even APC's can hardly remove it even after many washes. my point is, if i want to apply paste wax and ensure proper bonding to the paint, i must remove first the old spray sealant. now, since its really that tough to remove (not unless maybe newly polished/prepped), then re-waxing may not be practical anymore once you started using hydrophobic sprays. i think the wax simply will not adhere to the paint. going back again to the question of wax before sealant? or sealant before wax?[emoji2960][emoji85][emoji23]

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[polar01]

okay thanks again. a gallon goes a loooong way and save some pesoses in the long run.

yeah, i stiil believe nothing beats the old school wax on/wax off way[emoji23]

so in your next waxing schedule, how do you remove the tough and durable spray sealants? do you use heavy shampoo, paint decontamination, APC, degreaser and the like to prepped the paint? does IPA wipe enough to remove the residue(s) of spray sealants before applying a carnauba wax?

review videos (like the tw seal & shine) showed that spray sealants or similar sprays with hydrophobic properties are that durable and even APC's can hardly remove it even after many washes. my point is, if i want to apply paste wax and ensure proper bonding to the paint, i must remove first the old spray sealant. now, since its really that tough to remove (not unless maybe newly polished/prepped), then re-waxing may not be practical anymore once you started using hydrophobic sprays. i think the wax simply will not adhere to the paint. going back again to the question of wax before sealant? or sealant before wax?[emoji2960][emoji85][emoji23]

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Now that makes me think about it....hahaha. Im doing it wrong then.....when i was using the glaze crystal fx i just top off with wax.

Though i do 2x a year polishing. Perhaps will just wax 2x a year.....oh no.






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[Flipo]

okay thanks again. a gallon goes a loooong way and save some pesoses in the long run.

yeah, i stiil believe nothing beats the old school wax on/wax off way[emoji23]

so in your next waxing schedule, how do you remove the tough and durable spray sealants? do you use heavy shampoo, paint decontamination, APC, degreaser and the like to prepped the paint? does IPA wipe enough to remove the residue(s) of spray sealants before applying a carnauba wax?

review videos (like the tw seal & shine) showed that spray sealants or similar sprays with hydrophobic properties are that durable and even APC's can hardly remove it even after many washes. my point is, if i want to apply paste wax and ensure proper bonding to the paint, i must remove first the old spray sealant. now, since its really that tough to remove (not unless maybe newly polished/prepped), then re-waxing may not be practical anymore once you started using hydrophobic sprays. i think the wax simply will not adhere to the paint. going back again to the question of wax before sealant? or sealant before wax?[emoji2960][emoji85][emoji23]

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Bro the TW Seal N Shine or the new Ceramic Spray Coating is already a sealant in spray form and much easier to apply than the wax sealant.

Check this video from TW:
Seal N Shine vs. Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Spray Coating

Seal N Shine vs. Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Spray Coating - YouTube

[monty_GTV]

Now that makes me think about it....hahaha. Im doing it wrong then.....when i was using the glaze crystal fx i just top off with wax.

Though i do 2x a year polishing. Perhaps will just wax 2x a year.....oh no.






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nothing wrong there sir[emoji111][emoji4] its just that, if i want the wax to bond properly with the paint then it should be free from old lsp or perhaps old wax/sealants.

twice a year polishing is good[emoji106] its my regimen too. maybe its when after polishing that you do waxing then spray wax/sealants na lang in between.

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