Paint

[ineedmorehp]

Anu ba magandang brand ng automotive paint?
Sikkens, DuPont, Anzhal, RM (unknown to me. Info naman...), PPG

Tuwing kelan ba kailangan magpa-repaint?

Anung technology ng paint ngayon and maganda?

Anung paraan ng pagpaint?
Washover, Scrape to metal, top-coat, etc.?

Info naman.. THanks!

[russpogi]

Anu ba magandang brand ng automotive paint?
Sikkens, DuPont, Anzhal, RM (unknown to me. Info naman...), PPG

Sikkens, DuPont, Anzhal, Nippon... depende kung ano hanap mo: Acrylic or Urethane (I suggest Urethane)

Tuwing kelan ba kailangan magpa-repaint?

Depende sa yo pare.

Anung technology ng paint ngayon and maganda?

Ok na sa kin yung backyard na talyer. (May tropa kse akong may talyer kse hilig nya talaga so sa kanya kme ni erpats nagpapagawa.) Pero if you need more info on this, ask our fellow tsikoteers. Di na kse updated kung may bagong technology sa paint job aside from the oven-bake process.

Anung paraan ng pagpaint?
Washover, Scrape to metal, top-coat, etc.?

Depends on two things: your tsikot's condition and your wallet's condition.

Info naman.. THanks!

You are most welcome!

[ineedmorehp]

Ayun thanks for the INfo. Follow-up questions:

Sa paint, personal preference?

Sa methodology, which is the best scrape??

[cokyi]

panong the best scrape? scrape pataas, scrape pababa, scrape diagonally, scrape sideways... ano kaya? loko lang.haha

[russpogi]

Sa paint, personal preference?

Nippon and Anzhal (both Urethane as Nippon also makes Acrylic paints)

Sa methodology, which is the best scrape??

What do you mean? Like this:

scrape pataas, scrape pababa, scrape diagonally, scrape sideways...

However, it really depends on the condition of your tsikot. Nga pala, ano nga ba tsikot mo? Year/Model? What color and what color do you plan to replace it with?

[ineedmorehp]

ESi '94, Sikkens na may pagka sky blue. Palitan nila ng DuPont or RM, pero DuPont nalng daw. Ask ko process nila, remove the color and respray the paint. Tapos sabi talagang sakit ng Civic 92-94 yun roof, so iba cut-weld sa imported na Civic. Syempre 4 door ha! Hehe.. how much un roof na imported? yun w/ sun/moon roof? Basic palang yun so kelangan ko pa pinturahan...

[empy]

former painter here. i don't like RM, but different painters have different preferences. like someone else said, do yourself a favor and go urethane...mas mura nga ang acrylic but the difference in durability is like night and day.

Sikkens is a european paint and for some reason has gotten a reputation of being soft...i don't know why and think it might be BS. btw Sikkens is the oem supplier for BMW. i like it because it's easy to get a perfect gloss with it.

Dupont and PPG are made by the same company. their urethanes are good paints and they're not too expensive.

again, go urethene even if you have to pay a bit more. panalo ka sa durability and ease of maintenance.

[ineedmorehp]

Yes, urethane na DuPont nga gagamitin, they gave me assurance that they can match the previous sikkens color. Anyway its their problem on how to do that. Some panels will not be repainted coz not collision-related so insurance policy/rules.

Btw, do you have any comments/suggestion on my roof problem? I hesitant on both solutions, repaint (after few years it will appear again) and cut-and-weld using another imported surplus roof; and at the same time, im considering the price of both.

I want to keep my car, even if its 10+ years old already. Iba pag 1st hand..

[empy]

bosing di ko linya ang bodywork, but one thing i do know is that if you remove the roof and replace it the structural integrity of the chassis is compromised. may law nga dito sa US na if you cut the roof of the vehicle to repair it, the car is considered a 'salvage' vehicle and you must disclose the repair before you sell it.

bottom line is that your car is less safe

[ineedmorehp]

Uu nga eh. Badtrip... sabi sakit daw ng mga Civic 92-94 yun... anyway, anu opinion mo regarding sa repaint ng mga damaged panels using DuPont and keep the others as is.

[ILuvDetailing]

Agree with M54, Dupont or PPG is the way to go (more durable and flexible... less headaches down the road), just make sure that the prep material they use is also Dupont or PPG... cuz some unscrupulous paintshops use substandard prep material and branded clear or base coat. Remember the most important step in the painting process is the prep.

With regards to your roof having rust, I guess you have no choice but to scrap to metal, just make sure that the shop knows what they're doing. Its ain't gonna be cheap, but you get what you pay for.

[ineedmorehp]

Pano yung ibang panels na d painted kasi wala naman probl, d kaya mag iba shade nun d pantay?

[mazdamazda]

make sure na may computerized yung color matching nung paintshop mo kundi baka hindi magpantay yan.

[russpogi]

DON'T cut the roof and replace. Again, DON'T! Follow M54 Powered's advise. The structural integrity of the vehicle is compromised. I suggest that you add a little more so that you can get the whole vehicle repainted, including the other panels that does not need repainting (daw). Ikaw na bahala makipag usap sa insurance adjuster (yung nga ba tawag dun?).

[ineedmorehp]

Ok. Thanks guys. I've things are already finalized like paint, DuPont, my replacement parts for the damaged caused by the collision, etc. except if I want the whole car repainted or just the roof to eliminate that rust.

[russpogi]

Ok. Thanks guys. I've things are already finalized like paint, DuPont, my replacement parts for the damaged caused by the collision, etc. except if I want the whole car repainted or just the roof to eliminate that rust.

Lahatin mo na lang IMO. Scrape to metal and have the rust removed with a rust converter. Be sure to rinse that area as the rust converter residues may damage the new paint as well.

[ineedmorehp]

Lahatin mo na lang IMO. Scrape to metal and have the rust removed with a rust converter. Be sure to rinse that area as the rust converter residues may damage the new paint as well.

LOL! Nde ko pina-lahat, 4 panels naiwan, pina sama ko roof dahil sa rust so minus 1. Dahil sa ayaw nila ng backjob. Lalahatin na nila Hehehe. Pero they will not repair dents on the panels not really included in the repair.

What's rust converter?! D ko lam yun... pa explain. Thanks.

[russpogi]

LOL! Nde ko pina-lahat, 4 panels naiwan, pina sama ko roof dahil sa rust so minus 1. Dahil sa ayaw nila ng backjob. Lalahatin na nila Hehehe. Pero they will not repair dents on the panels not really included in the repair.

Sayang naman...

What's rust converter?! D ko lam yun... pa explain. Thanks.

Chemical yun pare parang muriatic acid na ginagamit na banyo. Halos pareho din yung principle of using it: apply the rust converter on metals with rust, let it sit for about 24 (yata) then scrape the rusted parts and rinse well with water. I'm not really sure ha! Better check the instructions on the container. Parang tubig lang yun pare. Meron yan sa mga paint shops and hardware. Mura lang din yun.

[ineedmorehp]

Ah ok, i'll check it latar... balikan ko sa talyer. Yung mga dent meron naman mga shop that can repair dents w/o damaging paint. Thanks sa mga suggestions and help.

[ILuvDetailing]

lahatin mo na dude, don't skimp on this process, its either all or nothing. why? so that the base coat and primer could be applied evenly. Down the road you will not regret doing this. BTW read theveeds link...