Ziebart Diamond Gloss or Big Bert's Paint Protection Program?

[arielt72]

Hi to all. Just want to know your opinions and or experiences with ziebarts (carsavers) and big bert's paint protection. Which is better to get? Ziebart costs around 30% more than big bert's, but is it worth it? My car is just a week old, and I wanted to preserve its gloss coz I know that black cars are prone to scratches and won't look good when faded.

Hope to get ur feedbacks guys. Will get it done this weekend if possible. Thanks!

[mazdamazda]

i'll go with big bert's...

why?

- personalized service... you get to know the owners, other detailing fanatics / customers, heck even the detailing boys and girls if you want!
- cheaper rates. ziebarts has to charge higher since its overhead is bigger (due to advertisments, executives, etc)
- good advice. unlike ziebarts which offers just a standard line-up of products, big bert's can offer you a wide range of options depending on your needs / budget. they are also not hesitant to teach & show you DIY techniques / tips.

btw, my rav4 is a regular big bert's customer since day1 and i still have yet to see a single swirl on my car's panels!!!

[philander]

Magkano yang mga yan and where to buy?

Thanks.

[arielt72]

Thanks mazdamazda. But I also want to know the quality of paint protection they provide. I heard that even the owner of big bert's got his car paint protected at ziebart before. (maybe before they've put up their shop).

[theveed]

Yes I've tried their paint protection several years ago before we opened BBPD, I'm not in the position to compare the both of us since it'll be unprofessional for me to do so.

What what I can specify is how our service is different. We offer you a PROGRAM for maintenance of your paint, not a one-time-magic-product deal. Our package will include a paint detail as well, which you can avail anytime within that 12 month period that your program is valid.

This means that let's say you've used your car for 11months, naturally, the amount of surface defects will increase from the time you first bought your car. You can avail the detail on the 11th or 12th month so your car's surface can be restored. That's included with the program along with 3 separate paint sealant application (every 3 months).

[TROOPER128]

hi theveed
i have a 2001 trooper gusto ko sya i pa detailed in and out..how much will it cost me? how long ko iwan un car sa inyo?
tnx

[theveed]

Trooper: Please refer to this thread nalang po thanks para di ma-hi-jack yung thread. Salamas!

[Cardo818]

Originally posted by mazdamazda


btw, my rav4 is a regular big bert's customer since day1 and i still have yet to see a single swirl on my car's panels!!!

mazdamazda,

gold/silver yun paint mo eh, di talaga makikita ang swirls hehehe :D

[oknamlarry]

theveed

my 1995 nissan safari patrol has a ziebart diamond gloss only last sept. 2004. can your shop continue maintaining it? please PM me

[zeagle]

Parang rip off ang Ziebart. They say its good for one year (I think) but that is conditional. If you use your car a lot daw and subject it to harsh environment, the life of the paint protection is reduced. I think Big Bert's program is a lot better coz there is regular application of paint protection. I also don't believe in one year paint protection. There is no such thing unless you use plastic wrap. Hehe

[ILuvDetailing]

Ako halos every week nagwawax, sakit sa katawan zeagle baka pwedeng makigamit ng rotary hehehe.

I'd pick Big Berts Paint Protection System over Ziebarts.

[zeagle]

Ako halos every week nagwawax, sakit sa katawan zeagle baka pwedeng makigamit ng rotary hehehe.

I'd pick Big Berts Paint Protection System over Ziebarts.

OT: E di gawin natin ang EB natin detailing night

[ILuvDetailing]

zeagle: Ayos! OT na tayo dito :lol: balik tayo sa thread natin hehehe.

[O!lman]

Magkano ba sir ang paint proctection ng big bert sa RAV 4 and Altis....Yung RAV4 muna sana ng esmi ko dahil palaging ginagamit sa Binondo...dami nang gasgas eh!

[theveed]

May PM po kayo Centum...

Vince (Zeagle): Naglalaro ka pa ba?

[jasonub]

May PM po kayo Centum...

Vince (Zeagle): Naglalaro ka pa ba?

airsoft? di na ata, he used to shoot with me a few months ago using the real stuff

[zeagle]

May PM po kayo Centum...

Vince (Zeagle): Naglalaro ka pa ba?

Veed: Tagal na akong retired. Sold na my gears. Kaya eto sa auto forum na. Drop by your shop one of these days to buy that micro fiber thing for waxing.

[theveed]

Hehe, ganun ba... nagchechek ako sa forum grabe si Mader nalang kilala ko sa mga current guys hehehe.... Siguro pag sumulpot ako sasabihin nila "Sino to!??? Sino naginvite dito?"

[arielt72]

You are right zeagle, Ziebart Diamond Gloss is a rip-off. I decided on that route since i've got no time to get my car regularly waxed, and now i'm regretting it! Got all scratches and swirls on my 5 month old car coz i think the paint protection they applied are more prone to scratches even if i use 3m microfiber cloth. I'm planning to get it back to them for inspection, but i'm not letting them put another coat of that so called paint protection. I may even ask them if they can remove it. After that i'll bring it to big bert's and probably get the best advise on how to restore the gloss.

[ILuvDetailing]

arielt: No need to bring it back to Ziebart, Paint protection is by no means a scratch protection its just protection againts the elements, and Paint sealant the Ziebart applied on your ride has long been gone so no need to have to have it "removed". Get you car waxed at least once a month, thats your best bet in getting maximum protection.