Detailing Thread [For Newbies][continued]

[watusi]

sa pagkakaintindi ko sa instructions ng mothers, yung 1-2 times a year reffering for the maintenance interval.

hindi po ba mildly abrasive yung step 1 kaya 1-2 times a year lang po ang recommended use?

[raine]

tama ka mildly abrasive ang step 1, pero kaya naman recommend na 1 to 2 x a year lang ang gamit nito kasi sa steps na ito dapat nag step2 and step3 ka rin at pag dinasa mo pa ang instructions yun step 2 and 3 mga 5x a year mo ginagawa naman, at dahil dito well maintained and protected ang paint mo.
and medyo mag cloud talaga yung paint mo kasi natangal ang wax niya. lagyan mo ng step2 sealer and glaze pag tuyo na tangalin mo ( let it cure for 24 hrs) then apply step3 carnuba wax, yan din ang gamit ko ngayon nabili ko sa ace hardware.

[madkatz]

Thanks for the reply bro. It's been less than a day or a day at most. I tried calling them but they have no idea what the langka paint chip kit was, had to explain to them it was a paint chip repair and remover but they don't seem to know it.

I guess I will try later to use rubbing compound to see if that will remove the touch up paint.

I would suggest you try to wetsand the paint using waterproof sand paper, fold to the sandpaper and clip it until only one finger is covered with the wet sanding paper and then sand away, i would also suggest using a shampoo solution and a spray bottle to be safer in wet sanding, if you use a 2000 to 2500 grit sandpaper it should be thin and soft enough to the point where you could feel the excess paint then just follow and sand the affected area being carefull not to sand the unaffected clear coats on the side, the key here is patience in slowly reducing the excess paint, once every thing is sanded and you now see the clear coat its time to pull out the machine and foam pad and buff it all off followed by a polish, there are also some claybars out there that are aggressive enough to remove even larger drops of paint one of them is Megs Professional Aggressive Clay.

[madkatz]

care to explain why number 2? padating na rin kasi ung 476 ko. hehehe. thanks

Washing if done correctly is usually better in cleaning the paint making the wax exposed more, you see if you use a QD to clean the paint you're not really removing road film where with washing there is a higher chance that you could remove road film exposing the real layer of wax making it bead more.

[madkatz]

I used Moms Step 1 to remove the water marks form my hood. After applying and rubbing gently with my finger, i wiped it off with a microfiber cloth. I did this for 3-4 times because the stain was pretty hard to remove. I also noticed that the red shade of my car where i applied step 1 wasn't as bright as the area where the chemical wasn't applied. After appying moms step 1, i applied NAno Glos and the color went back to its original state. Did I just damage my paintjob by applying multiple times? Will the dullness of the paint return once nano glos fades off?

The instructions states that I should only use this 1-2 times a year. When I did the multiple applications, did I just simulate 2 years worth of application?

Worse case scenario is that you might have marred the paint, its nothing that a quick mild polish wouldn't fix, bring it over this sunday and lets try to fix it, Step 1 is not really that aggressive, its aggressive as a cleaner but not as a polish, there is a fine line between that, well basically you did simulate 2 years of maintenance on the painted part on a very well maintained car, but take note that is on a well maintained car that doesn't really need that much pre-wax cleaning.

[madkatz]

Daming watermarks..



Removed watermarks using a generic rotary, megs finishing pad and Optimum poli seal





Applied DP Policoat paint sealant as LSP





Will apply another layer after 24 hours

Great job! and very nice garage! im so envious, how did you like OCW and Poli-seal?

[rico_g]

Daming watermarks..

Removed watermarks using a generic rotary, megs finishing pad and Optimum poli seal





Applied DP Policoat paint sealant as LSP





Will apply another layer after 24 hours

Ganda ng garahe ni sir JM!!! pwede ba makitulog jan sa tabi ng auto mo???

[rico_g]

Washing if done correctly is usually better in cleaning the paint making the wax exposed more, you see if you use a QD to clean the paint you're not really removing road film where with washing there is a higher chance that you could remove road film exposing the real layer of wax making it bead more.

This is quite interesting coz I nearly follow the same regime:

1. 476s Detail with Sliq
2. Monday Tuesday (No rain), dust off lang, Sliq
pg-umulan, hose down, sheeting, dry, dust off, then sliq
3. Wednesday - Wash and Sliq (pag kulang sa oras, ONR waterless wash)
4. Thu and Fri, repeat step 2
5. Weekend - wash and sliq ulit
6. next 5 days, usual regime
7. Back to step 1 (meaning detail and sliq every other week)

what could be changed in this routine, to ensure 476s lasts long? would daily washing help that much?

same kc concern ko, after 2 weeks, d na tight beading, pero meron pa rin... adik lang kasi ako pag nakikita ko na tight ung water beads... pag masmalaki na sa limang piso ung water drop sa roof ko, (in about 1 week), feeling ko one week na lang ung life ng wax.

also, nakakatanggal ba ng roadfilm and waterless wash? pareho lang ba tlga ang effects ng waterless wash and regular wash, kung manipis lang ung dirt?


*chikselog - chief, i remember you were trying out products before as to the culprit in why your wax deteriorates quick...

did you ever find out if it was the Microtex duster that strips off your wax? or the ONR Cleaning QD solution?

[Nik]

guys who used 476s.. meaning kung gusto mo ng tight beading talaga, dapat every week ka mag apply ng 476s? hindi tumatagal yung tight beading ng 14days? TIA

namimili kasi ako ngayon if 476s or 885 ang bibilin ko..

if 885 ilang days kaya tatagal? sino na naka experience?

basis ko sa 476s is yung sinabi ni sir rico_g na "after 2 weeks, d na tight beading, pero meron pa rin...... pag masmalaki na sa limang piso ung water drop sa roof ko, (in about 1 week), "

meaning 1 week lang tinatagal nung tight beading? TIA

[jmpet626]

Great job! and very nice garage! im so envious, how did you like OCW and Poli-seal?

Im surprised sa poliseal, natanggal niya yung watermarks na baked on na sa paint kahit finishing pad lang while leaving the surface very slick and shiny. Ultimate one step product siya. Still haven't tried OCW yet.


*rico

Sa bahay ng sister ko yan, detail ko lang din car niya.

[watusi]

WHAT: DETAILING SEMINAR
WHEN: 09.12.11 (SUNDAY)
WHERE: MASTER'S DOJO..... LOOK AND YOU SHALL FIND
TIME: 8:00 AM

TOPICS
novice
1) Product knowledge (di po brainwashing.... me libreng pagong wax kung gusto ninyo...libre gamit ng polisher para sureball ang kapit)
2) How to properly wash your car (do's and don'ts)=== whole car (guinea pig)
3) step 1-2-3 (4? wag na next time ) === 1 panel only....

urangutang na sa semminar
1) WASH -CLAY- SEAL ---- 2 cars will be use..... first 2 urangutng wins (bring your own wash meet/pail/mfs/clay) (sat pa lang mag clay na ko para di pagod...sana manalo)

both programs will go simultaneous (product knowledge first then pili na kayo ng session)

PARTICIPANTS:
1) psi
2) bombitmd
3) Ginnova
4)scharnhorst
5)Chikselog
6) jed_015
7) rico_g
8) watusi
9)
10)

sa wakas! EB ulit!

sali po ako! saan meeting place? sa dojo na?

[kafph2000]

Guys, pwede bang gamitin as pre-wax cleaner ang M66? If yes, san ba nakakabili nung repacked bottles na 8oz? Meron kaya sa Meguiars Kamias branch?
Tinitignan ko rin kasi yung product ng Mothers na step1. Although it says I only need to use it once or twice a year. Medyo sayang sa bucks at baka mas abrasive kaya ganun. Tama ba pagkakaintindi ko? THANKS!

[watusi]

Worse case scenario is that you might have marred the paint, its nothing that a quick mild polish wouldn't fix, bring it over this sunday and lets try to fix it, Step 1 is not really that aggressive, its aggressive as a cleaner but not as a polish, there is a fine line between that, well basically you did simulate 2 years of maintenance on the painted part on a very well maintained car, but take note that is on a well maintained car that doesn't really need that much pre-wax cleaning.

oh no! ill show you the result on sunday, i hope that it's not as bad as how i described it to be.

After applying moms step 1, then topped 915 over nano glos. the result looks nice. i hope that this is enough for added protection from water marks.

[jmpet626]

yung m66 cleaner wax na siya. Pero for me mas maganda pa din yung dedicated products for each step. Yung m66 at d151 ng megs all in one product. Sa megs kamias meron niyan dun nga lang makakabili ng repacked na megs products.

[Chikselog]

*chikselog - chief, i remember you were trying out products before as to the culprit in why your wax deteriorates quick...

did you ever find out if it was the Microtex duster that strips off your wax? or the ONR Cleaning QD solution?

Sir matagal tagal ko na rin pong di nagagamit itong duster ko, need na kasi bumili ng replacement head ang itim na eh hehe.

Hmm, as to your question I'm not really sure if any of the 2 ang culprit. Actually di ko talaga ma-figure out kung ano eh. Maybe because once a week na lang ako nakakapag-wash dahil kulang sa oras or yung ulan-then-araw na weather natin ngayon.

[watusi]

tama ka mildly abrasive ang step 1, pero kaya naman recommend na 1 to 2 x a year lang ang gamit nito kasi sa steps na ito dapat nag step2 and step3 ka rin at pag dinasa mo pa ang instructions yun step 2 and 3 mga 5x a year mo ginagawa naman, at dahil dito well maintained and protected ang paint mo.
and medyo mag cloud talaga yung paint mo kasi natangal ang wax niya. lagyan mo ng step2 sealer and glaze pag tuyo na tangalin mo ( let it cure for 24 hrs) then apply step3 carnuba wax, yan din ang gamit ko ngayon nabili ko sa ace hardware.

thanks boss.

instead of using moms step 2 and 3, i replaced step 2 with Nano glos and Step 3 with collinite 915

[jed_015]

tama ka mildly abrasive ang step 1, pero kaya naman recommend na 1 to 2 x a year lang ang gamit nito kasi sa steps na ito dapat nag step2 and step3 ka rin at pag dinasa mo pa ang instructions yun step 2 and 3 mga 5x a year mo ginagawa naman, at dahil dito well maintained and protected ang paint mo.
and medyo mag cloud talaga yung paint mo kasi natangal ang wax niya. lagyan mo ng step2 sealer and glaze pag tuyo na tangalin mo ( let it cure for 24 hrs) then apply step3 carnuba wax, yan din ang gamit ko ngayon nabili ko sa ace hardware.

ayy,kelangan pa ba icure ng 24 hours yung step 2 before applying step 3?or collinite sapphire?thanks!!

[jmpet626]

i think wala naman curing time yung step 2 s&g since glaze lang naman siya.

[jmpet626]

ayy,kelangan pa ba icure ng 24 hours yung step 2 before applying step 3?or collinite sapphire?thanks!!

kung sapphire naman may cleaner siya so matatangal din yung mga products na na apply before sakanya

[jed_015]

kung sapphire naman may cleaner siya so matatangal din yung mga products na na apply before sakanya

sabi ni ma'm madkatz hindi naman daw??may matatanggal pero hindi naman lahat..ewan ko lang..so kung matatanggal ano dapat kong unahin??thanks!