Detailing Thread [For Newbies][continued]

[flakez]

Nope. Not Ace. You can get Carlack68 at True Value and BB.

thanks. BB lang alam ko kaya kala ko meron din sa ace. hehehe.

[Louie_18]

M66 (aka Quick Detailer) is a cleaner wax from Meguiar's Pro-line of products. You can get it for cheap (8oz repacked bottles) at Simex, QC.

It's probably as good as ColorX (but still way cheaper).

(NOTE: Yeah the name is really confusing. Meg's should have used a different name for this. )

Sir, thanks. Safe po ba ito sa clear coat? Abrasive ba siya? Thanks!

[rockstar5k]

Sir, thanks. Safe po ba ito sa clear coat? Abrasive ba siya? Thanks!

Re-post ko lang itong link na ito for reference:

http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=33287

[Reepicheep]

Wouldn't m66 cause my KSG to haze? I have some large watermarks on my roof that I want to be removed - although they aren't really noticeable since it's an SUV.

[Nik]

IMO 5 layers of the same sealant would be pointless thats why we use different sealants in out multiple layers we find that it lasts much longer compared to multiple layers of the same sealant except for some which are not available locally

next glazes contains oils especially 3m IHG, and glazes are applied before sealants so if you want glazes you can't apply sealants since it won't bond properly, and multiple layers of glazes are also pointless since it does not layer the only benefit you will from it is better coverage incase you missed a spot

2 fleets are ok

mam sa page 277 ata nung unang thread ko to nakuha..

*chickselog: actually with 476, 1 coat is already good enough, two coats is sort of overkill already but 3 coats would be just a waste, if you have the time to do 3 coats then i would tell you to invest on a sealant, sealants are the ones that really benefit when it comes to layering more than 3, i had the innova layered with 4 layers of KSG and until now it still looks nice, as for waxes the top recommended layer is just 2, based on personal experience the 3 layer would just be a waste.

hindi na po to valid as of today? dahil may na discover na kayong mas ok?

if hindi na po to valid.. max of how many layers lang pwede if carlack68 lang ang meron akong sealant? TIA

question again.. pano po kung after sealant ko ilalagay yung 3m IHG.. kakapit na po kaya yung glaze? tapos papatungan nalang ng fleet.. TIA !!

[madkatz]

Wouldn't m66 cause my KSG to haze? I have some large watermarks on my roof that I want to be removed - although they aren't really noticeable since it's an SUV.

It very well might because of the abrasives in M66 so you would need to seal it again, this is recommended to be done before your optiguard session so it would be sealed ASAP

[Reepicheep]

I see. Might as well buy m66 soon and ask BB's crew to do it for me.

[madkatz]

mam sa page 277 ata nung unang thread ko to nakuha..

*chickselog: actually with 476, 1 coat is already good enough, two coats is sort of overkill already but 3 coats would be just a waste, if you have the time to do 3 coats then i would tell you to invest on a sealant, sealants are the ones that really benefit when it comes to layering more than 3, i had the innova layered with 4 layers of KSG and until now it still looks nice, as for waxes the top recommended layer is just 2, based on personal experience the 3 layer would just be a waste.

hindi na po to valid as of today? dahil may na discover na kayong mas ok?

if hindi na po to valid.. max of how many layers lang pwede if carlack68 lang ang meron akong sealant? TIA

question again.. pano po kung after sealant ko ilalagay yung 3m IHG.. kakapit na po kaya yung glaze? tapos papatungan nalang ng fleet.. TIA !!

Its not that its not valid anymore, layering klasse up to 5 layers would be a good idea and would really look good but you have to consider that time you are spending in layering the 5 layers, its going to be pointless if you'll just apply it on a daily drive and have the car not used for one whole week, thats why i said its pointless, i layered the 5 layers because i had a polycharger added into it cutting the number of details from 5 to 6 days down to just 3 days, Actually just friday night to sunday night, if i don't have a polycharger i wouldn't even think of layering 5 layers of sealants with 24 hours cure time in between, and KSG is great but at 5 layers its not that much different from 3 layers except that it protects better and has a tad little more wet look, now imagine you could gather different sealants like get the depth and darkening effect of this sealant, layer it twice, add the mirror shine of this sealant and then add the anti static properties of the last sealant, then thats a great multiple layer a lot better than 5 KSG, so the reason why i said its pointless is because its not really worth all the time you put into it except if you're building something like Darkening sealant + mirror sealant + Corrosive Resistant Sealant + Anti Static Sealant or the sorts.

[madkatz]

I see. Might as well buy m66 soon and ask BB's crew to do it for me.

if you're gonna have a optiguard session i think KAIO used via rotary would already be enough to remove those marks, if its not enough then you could ask them for some of their cleaner wax and have the marks removed, they have their own cleaner wax which they're very familiar with working.

[Reepicheep]

Hehe hopefully Paul would be extra generous on Friday to give my Monty some extra service. Thanks Ms. madkatz!

[jmpet626]

*ms madkatz


kung polycharged yung sealant, how long curing time inbetween coats?

[madkatz]

It would depend on the sealant and what polycharger did you use? Polycharger brand? There are a lot of different polychargers out there and they all vary in cure time but if its the Polycharger brand with KSG its 12 hours, with WGDGPS its 8 hours

[Chikselog]

*madkatz
Mam right now I'm doing an experiment sa 476S ko. Ang ginawa ko is

1. Detail with 476S with NanoSLIQ. Kapag marumi or maputik, wipe with NanoSLIQ. Kapag iwawash, lagay ng SLIQ after.
2. Detail with 476S only. Kapag marumi, dust off lang or hinahayaan ko. Rarely gagamitan ng NanoSLIQ. Kapag wash, wala ng ilalagay.

Any thoughts/suggestions? So far I'm on #2. Medyo hirap lang ako gawin to kasi di ako sanay pumasok ng marumi oto eh hehe.

Pero so far ang pinakamatagal na tinagal ng 476S sakin is 13 days. Double coat pa yata ito pero the 2nd coat was applied 2 days after the 1st coat. Ginamit kasi yung oto.

[PSI]

*madkatz
Mam right now I'm doing an experiment sa 476S ko. Ang ginawa ko is

1. Detail with 476S with NanoSLIQ. Kapag marumi or maputik, wipe with NanoSLIQ. Kapag iwawash, lagay ng SLIQ after.
2. Detail with 476S only. Kapag marumi, dust off lang or hinahayaan ko. Rarely gagamitan ng NanoSLIQ. Kapag wash, wala ng ilalagay.

Any thoughts/suggestions? So far I'm on #2. Medyo hirap lang ako gawin to kasi di ako sanay pumasok ng marumi oto eh hehe.

Pero so far ang pinakamatagal na tinagal ng 476S sakin is 13 days. Double coat pa yata ito pero the 2nd coat was applied 2 days after the 1st coat. Ginamit kasi yung oto.

idol pa hirit lang ha.....
question
1) di kaya sobra tapang ng shampoo mo?
2) ano tubig ninyo sa bahay pang car wash? deep well?

[Chikselog]

*PSI
1. Microtex shampoo. Tamang lubricity lang, yung turo ni sir Edwin.
2. NAWASA.

[Nik]

Its not that its not valid anymore, layering klasse up to 5 layers would be a good idea and would really look good but you have to consider that time you are spending in layering the 5 layers, its going to be pointless if you'll just apply it on a daily drive and have the car not used for one whole week, thats why i said its pointless, i layered the 5 layers because i had a polycharger added into it cutting the number of details from 5 to 6 days down to just 3 days, Actually just friday night to sunday night, if i don't have a polycharger i wouldn't even think of layering 5 layers of sealants with 24 hours cure time in between, and KSG is great but at 5 layers its not that much different from 3 layers except that it protects better and has a tad little more wet look, now imagine you could gather different sealants like get the depth and darkening effect of this sealant, layer it twice, add the mirror shine of this sealant and then add the anti static properties of the last sealant, then thats a great multiple layer a lot better than 5 KSG, so the reason why i said its pointless is because its not really worth all the time you put into it except if you're building something like Darkening sealant + mirror sealant + Corrosive Resistant Sealant + Anti Static Sealant or the sorts.

got your point mam !! thanks.. hindi lang products ang basis.. pati din time and effort.. salamat mam.. 2 to 3 layers nalang lalagay ko hehe.. ask ko din si master if san makakabili ng polycharger.. thanks mam !!

question..

if plan ko mag layer ng 2 to 3 sealant.. ok lang ba na tonight mag layer ako isa.. tom night gagamitin auto.. tapos wash after use then layer ulit nung 2nd.. ok lang ba yun? ganun din pag nag layer ng dalawang fleetwax? ok lang na after ng curing time eh gagamitin muna tapos wash nalang bago mag 2nd layer.. TIA

[Ginnova]

Also applied 476s 10 days ago and i think wax is still present. Pano ba malaman na wala na yung wax at kailangan na ulit patungan.

[jmpet626]

It would depend on the sealant and what polycharger did you use? Polycharger brand? There are a lot of different polychargers out there and they all vary in cure time but if its the Polycharger brand with KSG its 12 hours, with WGDGPS its 8 hours

Thanks.. Wala pa ako poly charger not sure pa if i'll get one. 40$ kasi yung ch2 and h20 kits.

[scharnhorst]

*ma'am madkatz: thanks for answering the query ma'am...

nagdeteriorate ata agad yung sealant at yung fleetwax against fulltime outdoor parking with rain

*madkatz
Mam right now I'm doing an experiment sa 476S ko. Ang ginawa ko is

1. Detail with 476S with NanoSLIQ. Kapag marumi or maputik, wipe with NanoSLIQ. Kapag iwawash, lagay ng SLIQ after.
2. Detail with 476S only. Kapag marumi, dust off lang or hinahayaan ko. Rarely gagamitan ng NanoSLIQ. Kapag wash, wala ng ilalagay.

Any thoughts/suggestions? So far I'm on #2. Medyo hirap lang ako gawin to kasi di ako sanay pumasok ng marumi oto eh hehe.

Pero so far ang pinakamatagal na tinagal ng 476S sakin is 13 days. Double coat pa yata ito pero the 2nd coat was applied 2 days after the 1st coat. Ginamit kasi yung oto.

Sir, mas matagal talaga pag pinapatungan ng booster yung 476, lalo na pag winawash

[PSI]

*PSI
1. Microtex shampoo. Tamang lubricity lang, yung turo ni sir Edwin.
2. NAWASA.

thats what i'm afraid of.......

Idol.... me susubukan tayo sa sun.... dalin mo yung vios...