Detailing Thread [For Newbies][continued]

[madkatz]

with sg topped with wax, does a daily driver just need weekly washing and rewaxing in 4-6 months? e.g. muntinlupa-qc daily, cos it does collect debris that needs claying. is it ok to layer wax over those?

thanks for the advice.

i bet some of you will read that as thanks in advance.

No you still need to wax at least every month, its just that every 6 months you remove the sealants and layer them again, but for the sealants to last long enough you still need to wax monthly basically the sealant just becomes the fail safe measure once the wax dies out, then the sealant needs to be re-applied before it start to dull

[madkatz]

hi detailers!

nasa BigBert's yung mazda2 namin ngayon for the optiguard session.

planning on coating it with 476 tonight... I wonder if this is such a good idea, or does the carlack need more than 8 hours of curing time?

yup preferably 24 hours

[Chikselog]

Manager PSI/mam madkatz anong balita sa Optimum Opti-Seal?

[mada]

mga sir's paki bigay nga po sakin ulit yung mga QD items diko na mahanap.

[indiej]

oid ka kung qd. cost effective.

thanks madkatz. so it's conquer the OC within and just layer the wax in-between 4-6 months. after that, strip all layers, restart.

[scharnhorst]

*PSI: uy kelan next EB? haha parang gusto ko kumuha ng fleetwax :D

*madkatz: thanks ma'am. will coat 476 next week...

[bombitmd]

*PSI: uy kelan next EB? haha parang gusto ko kumuha ng fleetwax :D

Sulit siya, pare. Nakaka-3 weeks na ako na halos twice a week ang hugas (wash + OCW), buhay pa rin ang beading.

OT DOC BOM.... musta mags mo? napapaisip tuloy ako....

Kumikinang-kinang pa rin. Ok talaga siya, salamat sa tulong mo kanina! Huwag ka na mag-isip... bili na!!! hehe!

[kent1023]

*madkatz - thanks for the advice planning to buy collinite 915 to improve sana the depth and gloss...baka try ko muna pure carnauba wax, may eagleone at mothers ako na hindi pa nagagamit

[PSI]

*PSI: uy kelan next EB? haha parang gusto ko kumuha ng fleetwax

*madkatz: thanks ma'am. will coat 476 next week...

Idol, mukhang yung ENGINE DETAILING na lang ang natitira eh.....type nyo ba?
eto an mga natakeup since nag join ako
1) product knowledge (ala talaga bobo ko dito buti ala exams HEHEHEH)
2) proper washing (2 bucket system/ using the right equiptment)
3) external detailing
a) tar removal/ detailing of mags
b) degriming ( putik tama ba spelling ko)
c) step 1-2-3 (sealant kasama )
b) buffing==> using the buffing machine and the unano

ala papala detailing loob oto..... pero wait tayo..... medadating maganda solution....pang carpet....lets just say na spray spray lang aangat na dumi sabay scrub and vacum .... kaya basa lang ng basa me lilitaw din..... "

HAPPY ARE THOSE WHO WAIT, FOR THEY GET THE BETTER PRODUCT WITH A LOWER COST" HEHEHEH!

mukhang madami na ata yung me machines......you might want to have a session to enhance your skills.... sowi guys ala pa ko kaya pass muna... calling JMPET/ MAT baka gusto nyo ihandle eto.... as much as i would like to handle the EB... let me rephrase that... as much as i want to organize the EB .... kakahiya naman ako magoorganize tapos ala naman ako HEHE!

so that leaves me to only with the engine detailing.... HMMMMM type niyo ba?
syempre usap muna kami ni master.... bago ko iannounce

willing ba kayo pagalaw makina ng oto ninyo? mga computerized/sensors na ang laman ng hood hehehehe!! but what the heck..... have seen the cars that master worked on .... DAMN!!! sarap nakawin LOL.... mga IMPORTED

[PSI]

*doc bom==== no prob any time...... ala mag 15 na lang siguro ako next year....

if your waxing every 2 weeks and tipong red/black/blue ang kulay ng oto... i would go for 915.....but kung silver.... hehehehehe!! fleet na lang..... lalo na kung harsh environment... minsan ala pang 2 weeks wax ulit ako HAHAHAHA! takot tamaan yung paint just my 2 cents... again bobo po ako sa product knowledge

SEALANT............... SEALANT............ ANG SOLUTION DITO!!!!!!! tamang adik!!


*chik===> ang pagkakaalam ko umorder na....... lakas pang amoy ni mat..... niresearch na niya sealant .... looks very promising daw.....

[jmpet626]

For ultimate durability Sealants talaga.


Check niyo to mga sirs

The Biggest Sealant Test ever!


Test orignally started 10th Sept, with second group added 18th, week later. Reviews took place at 8th Oct and 1st Nov 2008.

After 4 months, the following sealants are still protecting the paintwork:

Autoglym Extra Gloss Protection
Chemical Guys: M-Seal, Jetseal 109, Speed Amor
Klasse AIO and Sealant Glaze
Hi Temp Paste
Zaino AIO, Z2 and Z5
Wolfgang Deep Gloss Sealant.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/...test-ever.html



2 months na KSG ko beading at shiny pa din. Pansin ko na difference niya sa carnauba yung shine ng sealant parang may cling wrap na nakapatong sa paint pag tinignan mo at different angles.

[indiej]

i reread my hastily written posts, and they're confusing.
i'll attempt to make it clear here.

Question: is it ok to only wash every week and wax every month in a period of 4 months? the car has been clayed, sealed and waxed. The car is driven daily QC<-->muntinlupa so the car, in a few days, will have debris that a thorough wash won't clean and you'll catch and see only with claying.

A: Wash weekly and wax monthly til you reach 4 months or so, strip then restart clay - seal.

[jmpet626]

*PSI,

Still practicing pa lang din ako ng Rotary at wet sanding, nakabili na ko ng surplus fender post ko pag natapos na hehe

[indiej]

what's disturbing about that study is that the non-polied sealants outlasted their polied ones.

that's what i want to retest. proper methods for each product.

[jmpet626]

May nakapag try na ba ng DP Policoat Paint sealant at DP Rinseless Wash & Gloss?

[madkatz]

dude if you could wait a little bit more ....me padating na product... sealant....masmabilis ang curing time...as in mabilis....bas basa ka muna dito.... me lilitaw din hehehehehe!!! as for me.... baka next week takbo na ko ke master.... di ako mapakali... hehehehe!!

OT DOC BOM.... musta mags mo? napapaisip tuloy ako....

Hahaha well if the guy already has a sealant he might just need a polycharger to make it better and faster, and if you're pertaining to Opti-seal, we're still on the process of thoroughly testing its capabilities so we're sure it will definitely deliver the best for its price class, and we're still trying to liquidate some items so we could order the next batch of detailing items not purely optimum

[madkatz]

Manager PSI/mam madkatz anong balita sa Optimum Opti-Seal?

We might have it over by November, we're also testing the new spray on compound and polish, before we order so its cheaper

[madkatz]

oid ka kung qd. cost effective.

thanks madkatz. so it's conquer the OC within and just layer the wax in-between 4-6 months. after that, strip all layers, restart.

whats OID? Optimum Instant Detailer?

Well its more like

Put up a layer of sealant, re-layer after 24 hours and then slap on some carnauba wax again after 24 hours cure time, this is preferably done within one week. and then after that its back to monthly waxing until the 6 months when you remove everything.

[madkatz]

*doc bom==== no prob any time...... ala mag 15 na lang siguro ako next year....

if your waxing every 2 weeks and tipong red/black/blue ang kulay ng oto... i would go for 915.....but kung silver.... hehehehehe!! fleet na lang..... lalo na kung harsh environment... minsan ala pang 2 weeks wax ulit ako HAHAHAHA! takot tamaan yung paint just my 2 cents... again bobo po ako sa product knowledge

SEALANT............... SEALANT............ ANG SOLUTION DITO!!!!!!! tamang adik!!


*chik===> ang pagkakaalam ko umorder na....... lakas pang amoy ni mat..... niresearch na niya sealant .... looks very promising daw.....

haha if you need a quick sealant fix drop by my BF's place sometime and im sure he still has some sealant for you, we're also looking for volunteer cars to try on a new sealant from a company so far its ok and it lasts, its actualy the polycharged sealant you guys tried last time hehe its very easy to use

[madkatz]

For ultimate durability Sealants talaga.


Check niyo to mga sirs


http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/...test-ever.html



2 months na KSG ko beading at shiny pa din. Pansin ko na difference niya sa carnauba yung shine ng sealant parang may cling wrap na nakapatong sa paint pag tinignan mo at different angles.

Haha thats a very old article, but to be honest im also shocked about some of the results, AG extra gloss protection didn't even last us 2 months of summer and its on the longest lasting list, FK 2180 Polywipe lasted about as long as KSG and in the test it fell off pretty soon, but overall i have to agree that those items are some of the toughest out there and we could attest to it since we have all the items on the final lists but the items used were a bit outdated and some are already reformulated, i want to know when Opti-seal fell off because so far based on real tests Opti-seal is near KSG durability.

We're also currently trying out Rejex and i hope some people also test it soon, lots of people swear by Rejex, and we're also trying out the new reformulted Z2pro, PB's sealants are also great and easy to use, its falls off faster on durability though but for the price its still worth trying and with a faster cure time and better ease of use its definitely worth trying