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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    Quote Originally Posted by allenjo View Post
    Reserving the weekend to prep the car for the rainy season. Here is the plan I've drawn out.

    1. Full Wash
    2. Clay
    3. Wash
    4. Cleaner - MOMs Step1
    5. M34 Final Inspection
    6. M105
    7. KAIO
    8. M34
    9. Megs M7
    10. M34
    11. KSG (planning on 3 passes)
    12. 915 after competing KSG
    13. Sonax Brilliant Shine QD for maintenance
    I hope you don't mind me commenting on your regimen - just a few things I'd change, myself:

    I'd probably skip the wash after the clay - since you're using a QD for lube, and will be polishing afterwards, the wash seems like an added step to me. I'd also not bother with Mom's step 1 - M105 will remove anything that step 1 will, as part of the polishing it does. Additionally, you're going to be using KAIO, which does just as good (if not better) a job at cleaning as Mom's 1 does.

    I'd move the KAIO step just before the KSG one - they're made to work together, and there really shouldn't be anything applied in between the two. You particularly don't want an oily glaze like M7 under KSG - it will drastically impact the durability of the product. If you really want to use M7, I'd do if after the KSG layer (it won't strip KSG, since M7 doesn't have any cleaners).

    So, if I were amending:

    1. Full Wash
    2. Clay then QD wipe
    3. M105
    4. KAIO
    5. KSG (planning on 3 passes)
    6. M7
    7. 915
    8. Sonax Brilliant Shine QD for maintenance

    Fewer steps, and likely the same result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by umi001 View Post
    I hope you don't mind me commenting on your regimen - just a few things I'd change, myself:

    I'd probably skip the wash after the clay - since you're using a QD for lube, and will be polishing afterwards, the wash seems like an added step to me. I'd also not bother with Mom's step 1 - M105 will remove anything that step 1 will, as part of the polishing it does. Additionally, you're going to be using KAIO, which does just as good (if not better) a job at cleaning as Mom's 1 does.

    I'd move the KAIO step just before the KSG one - they're made to work together, and there really shouldn't be anything applied in between the two. You particularly don't want an oily glaze like M7 under KSG - it will drastically impact the durability of the product. If you really want to use M7, I'd do if after the KSG layer (it won't strip KSG, since M7 doesn't have any cleaners).

    So, if I were amending:

    1. Full Wash
    2. Clay then QD wipe
    3. M105
    4. KAIO
    5. KSG (planning on 3 passes)
    6. M7
    7. 915
    8. Sonax Brilliant Shine QD for maintenance

    Fewer steps, and likely the same result.

    i fully agree with sir umi001, KAIO worked in synergy with KSG. i might even skip the M7 because its the same glaze and with the planned 3 passes of KSG, i think its a waste of detailing product and time.

    and btw, 3 passes of KSG seemed to be that long to apply for me, considering a minimum curing time of 4 hours in between passes. the most application i had with KSG was 2 passes, that is waiting 8hrs in b/n as curing time. but if you have the luxury of time then that's not a problem.

    a full wash > clay > m105 > kaio > ksg > 915 > qd in my opinion is good enough for the rainy season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monty_GTV View Post
    i fully agree with sir umi001, KAIO worked in synergy with KSG. i might even skip the M7 because its the same glaze and with the planned 3 passes of KSG, i think its a waste of detailing product and time.

    and btw, 3 passes of KSG seemed to be that long to apply for me, considering a minimum curing time of 4 hours in between passes. the most application i had with KSG was 2 passes, that is waiting 8hrs in b/n as curing time. but if you have the luxury of time then that's not a problem.

    a full wash > clay > m105 > kaio > ksg > 915 > qd in my opinion is good enough for the rainy season.
    considering the M7 to be purely oil based, do these need curing as well....basa mode muna. Multiple passes of KSG work well for me. When i started using it, pa 1 pass lang ako then bump to 2 tapos 3 passes. Heck wala pa sa 1/4 nababawas ko dun sa container. Im turning the car to a hydrophobic bitch :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by allenjo View Post
    considering the M7 to be purely oil based, do these need curing as well....basa mode muna. Multiple passes of KSG work well for me. When i started using it, pa 1 pass lang ako then bump to 2 tapos 3 passes. Heck wala pa sa 1/4 nababawas ko dun sa container. Im turning the car to a hydrophobic bitch :D
    No curing for M7 - apply, wipe off, then top. And yes, from everything I've read, the durability of KSG really increases with more layers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by umi001 View Post
    I hope you don't mind me commenting on your regimen - just a few things I'd change, myself:

    I'd probably skip the wash after the clay - since you're using a QD for lube, and will be polishing afterwards, the wash seems like an added step to me. I'd also not bother with Mom's step 1 - M105 will remove anything that step 1 will, as part of the polishing it does. Additionally, you're going to be using KAIO, which does just as good (if not better) a job at cleaning as Mom's 1 does.

    I'd move the KAIO step just before the KSG one - they're made to work together, and there really shouldn't be anything applied in between the two. You particularly don't want an oily glaze like M7 under KSG - it will drastically impact the durability of the product. If you really want to use M7, I'd do if after the KSG layer (it won't strip KSG, since M7 doesn't have any cleaners).

    So, if I were amending:

    1. Full Wash
    2. Clay then QD wipe
    3. M105
    4. KAIO
    5. KSG (planning on 3 passes)
    6. M7
    7. 915
    8. Sonax Brilliant Shine QD for maintenance

    Fewer steps, and likely the same result.
    Thanks sir...will consider your advice.

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