Detailing Thread [For Newbies][continued 3]

[Retz]

Sirs, query on windshield. Has anyone tried using the windshield water marks remover ung Glaz brand? is it on par with elevo or mothers brand? and kailangan pa ba talaga apply ng Glaz water repellant after?

[jhnkvn]

Personally, use glass "watermarks" remover sparingly. Kung talagang may watermarks ka as there are chemicals there to remove the solidified sediments.

I'm not a fan of water repellants sa windshield but I'm good sa sides and rear. The reason for this is because when applied without proper preparation, you'll be experiencing juddering.

[Retz]

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Sir, what do you suggest that i use in removing those water marks? rainy season na kasi and mahirap visibility lalo na when it rains at night. un lang naman primary concern ko.

[gearguru]

Hello All,

Hope you can help me on the below queries as my search didn't yield clear answers...

POLISHING
- i currently use a Microtex Nanosil and pretty happy the first time I used it. Question now is if I am using the right applicator which is a Microtex Wax Pad. Should i consider a microfiber pad instead?

AFTER POLISHING
- as i'm quite satisfied already with the shine I get from Nanosil so I'm considering just topping it off with an OCW. Is NanoGlos or NanoSliq still a necessary step?

KLASSE/ CARLACK TWINS
- I already have ONR and OCW. From what I've read, main advantage of the Klasse/ Carlack products is longevity. So if I have the Optimum system to protect the Microtex products I'm using, I can opt not to shell out for the Klasse/ Carlack options?

Thanks in advance for your response detailing gurus.


Regards,
Dino

[Retz]

Has anyone availed of sir Sidney of speedlab/liqui moly ung matte coating on top of the car paint? ito ba ang "in" ngayon? what are the advantage and disadvantage (if any) of having such?

[umi001]

Hello All,

Hope you can help me on the below queries as my search didn't yield clear answers...

POLISHING
- i currently use a Microtex Nanosil and pretty happy the first time I used it. Question now is if I am using the right applicator which is a Microtex Wax Pad. Should i consider a microfiber pad instead?

AFTER POLISHING
- as i'm quite satisfied already with the shine I get from Nanosil so I'm considering just topping it off with an OCW. Is NanoGlos or NanoSliq still a necessary step?

KLASSE/ CARLACK TWINS
- I already have ONR and OCW. From what I've read, main advantage of the Klasse/ Carlack products is longevity. So if I have the Optimum system to protect the Microtex products I'm using, I can opt not to shell out for the Klasse/ Carlack options?

Thanks in advance for your response detailing gurus.


Regards,
Dino

I would consider a microfiber pad; it'll help with the cleaning properties of the product, and might also help break it down better.

It depends on how much you rate durability vs convenience. OCW will last about three to four weeks, versus two to three months for the Klasse twins, so you'll need to re-apply more often. On the flipside, using OCW will add about five to ten minutes to your after-wash routine, while the Klasse twins will take an additional couple of hours (two products to apply, plus slower application with a foam applicator vs towel, plus the need to wipe residue, plus the need to let KSG dry for one hour).

I would suggest getting a dedicated paint cleaner, such as Mothers or Meguiar's step 1, and use it every quarter or twice a year - just to ensure that embedded dirt and contaminants get removed.

[umi001]

Sirs, query on windshield. Has anyone tried using the windshield water marks remover ung Glaz brand? is it on par with elevo or mothers brand? and kailangan pa ba talaga apply ng Glaz water repellant after?

It works well - about the same as Mothers, from my experience, with the added benefit of being safer on trim and paint. I myself prefer water repellants - the Glaz one is very good, works well even at lower speeds, and I didn't notice any wiper juddering (unlike with Glass Science's Rain Clear).

[Retz]

It works well - about the same as Mothers, from my experience, with the added benefit of being safer on trim and paint. I myself prefer water repellants - the Glaz one is very good, works well even at lower speeds, and I didn't notice any wiper juddering (unlike with Glass Science's Rain Clear).

okay, thank you sir umi. how often do you re-apply the Glaz water repellant? and ung Glaz watermarks remover, kailangan pa bang apply ulit un? magkaka watermarks pa ba? kasi nag apply ka na ng Glaz water repellant.

[monty_GTV]

it's again the onset of the rainy season, what detailing regimen are you putting in place to protect your car paints from the harsh rain water and acids?

mine, after a polishing and cleaning, i applied Blackfire Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection and after curing, topped it with Collinite 915...looks nice so far

[ronki]

A fresh coat of 476 every time I'm free, since I can't wash the car every time it rains, and usually watermarks bake in the sun.

[monty_GTV]

nice sir ronki, maganda at mas durable ang collinite 476 lalo ngayong rainy season....

[gearguru]

Anyone here have any experience using OGPS? Have the opportunity to have someone buy it for me in the US and it seems to be a good alternative to KAIO.

[ronki]

No choice eh, durability vs. shine

ang dalas ko nga mag cleaner wax kasi lagi nasa ilalim ng puno, tapos uulan, tapos kinabukasan maluluto sa araw...hehe...kaya 476 talaga ako all the way.

[allenjo]

it's again the onset of the rainy season, what detailing regimen are you putting in place to protect your car paints from the harsh rain water and acids?

mine, after a polishing and cleaning, i applied Blackfire Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection and after curing, topped it with Collinite 915...looks nice so far

Reserving the weekend to prep the car for the rainy season. Here is the plan I've drawn out.

1. Full Wash
2. Clay
3. Wash
4. Cleaner - MOMs Step1
5. M34 Final Inspection
6. M105
7. KAIO
8. M34
9. Megs M7
10. M34
11. KSG (planning on 3 passes)
12. 915 after competing KSG
13. Sonax Brilliant Shine QD for maintenance

[gearguru]

Reserving the weekend to prep the car for the rainy season. Here is the plan I've drawn out.

1. Full Wash
2. Clay
3. Wash
4. Cleaner - MOMs Step1
5. M34 Final Inspection
6. M105
7. KAIO
8. M34
9. Megs M7
10. M34
11. KSG (planning on 3 passes)
12. 915 after competing KSG
13. Sonax Brilliant Shine QD for maintenance

WOW...how long do you plan to apply all of this?

[allenjo]

WOW...how long do you plan to apply all of this?

Hi Sir...would probably take me a week since I don't do it full time naman and only have the Saturday and Sunday as full days to do it. This is the bi-annual detail regimen I use. Pampatagal yung curing ng KSG but based sa experience ko and some here, the luster and shine really stands out after 2 or more passes KSG. Regarding use of the cleaner, my OC side just got the best of me and want a bare surface prior to compounding hence the cleaner. M34 naman is final inspection w/c i use to wipe down any trace wax na hindi ko na buff out or dust (again my OC side). M7 is Megs pure glaze lang. No protection whatsoever from application of this. Makes sense to apply this prior to sealing. Now im not sure as to adhesion of KSG to this but Im willing to try for experience's sake.

[s10pao]

Reserving the weekend to prep the car for the rainy season. Here is the plan I've drawn out.

1. Full Wash
2. Clay
3. Wash
4. Cleaner - MOMs Step1
5. M34 Final Inspection
6. M105
7. KAIO
8. M34
9. Megs M7
10. M34
11. KSG (planning on 3 passes)
12. 915 after competing KSG
13. Sonax Brilliant Shine QD for maintenance

kailangan pa ba ung step 4&5 kung step 6 ay M105?
para saan ung M7 in between KAIO & KSG?

[umi001]

Reserving the weekend to prep the car for the rainy season. Here is the plan I've drawn out.

1. Full Wash
2. Clay
3. Wash
4. Cleaner - MOMs Step1
5. M34 Final Inspection
6. M105
7. KAIO
8. M34
9. Megs M7
10. M34
11. KSG (planning on 3 passes)
12. 915 after competing KSG
13. Sonax Brilliant Shine QD for maintenance

I hope you don't mind me commenting on your regimen - just a few things I'd change, myself:

I'd probably skip the wash after the clay - since you're using a QD for lube, and will be polishing afterwards, the wash seems like an added step to me. I'd also not bother with Mom's step 1 - M105 will remove anything that step 1 will, as part of the polishing it does. Additionally, you're going to be using KAIO, which does just as good (if not better) a job at cleaning as Mom's 1 does.

I'd move the KAIO step just before the KSG one - they're made to work together, and there really shouldn't be anything applied in between the two. You particularly don't want an oily glaze like M7 under KSG - it will drastically impact the durability of the product. If you really want to use M7, I'd do if after the KSG layer (it won't strip KSG, since M7 doesn't have any cleaners).

So, if I were amending:

1. Full Wash
2. Clay then QD wipe
3. M105
4. KAIO
5. KSG (planning on 3 passes)
6. M7
7. 915
8. Sonax Brilliant Shine QD for maintenance

Fewer steps, and likely the same result.

[monty_GTV]

I hope you don't mind me commenting on your regimen - just a few things I'd change, myself:

I'd probably skip the wash after the clay - since you're using a QD for lube, and will be polishing afterwards, the wash seems like an added step to me. I'd also not bother with Mom's step 1 - M105 will remove anything that step 1 will, as part of the polishing it does. Additionally, you're going to be using KAIO, which does just as good (if not better) a job at cleaning as Mom's 1 does.

I'd move the KAIO step just before the KSG one - they're made to work together, and there really shouldn't be anything applied in between the two. You particularly don't want an oily glaze like M7 under KSG - it will drastically impact the durability of the product. If you really want to use M7, I'd do if after the KSG layer (it won't strip KSG, since M7 doesn't have any cleaners).

So, if I were amending:

1. Full Wash
2. Clay then QD wipe
3. M105
4. KAIO
5. KSG (planning on 3 passes)
6. M7
7. 915
8. Sonax Brilliant Shine QD for maintenance

Fewer steps, and likely the same result.

i fully agree with sir umi001, KAIO worked in synergy with KSG. i might even skip the M7 because its the same glaze and with the planned 3 passes of KSG, i think its a waste of detailing product and time.

and btw, 3 passes of KSG seemed to be that long to apply for me, considering a minimum curing time of 4 hours in between passes. the most application i had with KSG was 2 passes, that is waiting 8hrs in b/n as curing time. but if you have the luxury of time then that's not a problem.

a full wash > clay > m105 > kaio > ksg > 915 > qd in my opinion is good enough for the rainy season.

[allenjo]

I hope you don't mind me commenting on your regimen - just a few things I'd change, myself:

I'd probably skip the wash after the clay - since you're using a QD for lube, and will be polishing afterwards, the wash seems like an added step to me. I'd also not bother with Mom's step 1 - M105 will remove anything that step 1 will, as part of the polishing it does. Additionally, you're going to be using KAIO, which does just as good (if not better) a job at cleaning as Mom's 1 does.

I'd move the KAIO step just before the KSG one - they're made to work together, and there really shouldn't be anything applied in between the two. You particularly don't want an oily glaze like M7 under KSG - it will drastically impact the durability of the product. If you really want to use M7, I'd do if after the KSG layer (it won't strip KSG, since M7 doesn't have any cleaners).

So, if I were amending:

1. Full Wash
2. Clay then QD wipe
3. M105
4. KAIO
5. KSG (planning on 3 passes)
6. M7
7. 915
8. Sonax Brilliant Shine QD for maintenance

Fewer steps, and likely the same result.

Thanks sir...will consider your advice.