Detailing Thread [For Newbies][continued 3]

[indiej]

WOW. this will really be a game changer. Super beading ang labas nito kapag sa kotse.
Protection for a year.

That's almost a sphere/bead left standing on the surface. ano kaya ang itawag ko sa nasa panels ko ngayon? dome-ing?.. Si Domeng na lang ang maghugas ng kotse

I haven't read about pricing of NeverWet though

[scharnhorst]

^^WOW. as in literal sphere na yung tubig sa surface. I wonder kung ano resilience nito against watermarking, bird crap and tree sap.

kerosene is safe for clearcoats, just be sure to remove it immediately after.

[Chikselog]

Grabe naman yan. Saan makakabili nyan? For sure ginto presyo nyan.

[umi001]

^^WOW. as in literal sphere na yung tubig sa surface. I wonder kung ano resilience nito against watermarking, bird crap and tree sap.

kerosene is safe for clearcoats, just be sure to remove it immediately after.

The bird crap and tree sap might slide right off, hehehehe

[umi001]

Here's a video of it:

[indiej]

i hope it becomes a regular household product. they're selling licenses now. it's up to those companies to make use of neverwet.

there aren't much details yet on how to apply it, what if it's like Teflon that needs high temp to bond, they made teflon sprays but those don't have the same durability as those on frying pans. i've seen a pic of neverwet where the droplets are not spherical but same ol dome shaped. gamitin na muna ang nasa garahe na mga silicon based coatings habang abangers. sa halip na maubos, nadadagdagan. napakasaya naman.

[jagg18]

specs:
black car
outdoor parking, no cover

Hello mga sir/maam. Questions lang po regarding exterior detailing and carwash.
Marami na po kasi akong mga nabasa and yung iba naghalo-halo na. Confirm ko lang po mga napick-up ko.

Washing:

I bought the ff. for washing my car weekly:

- microtex car shampoo
- microtex washmitt for shampoo application
- microtex elite for drying
- microtex tire black
- mother's tire brush


Questions:

1. Is it okay to use the shampoo weekly? Sabi sa label it won't strip wax.
2. Weekly rin ba ang application ng tire black? Okay na ba yung microtex na brand for tire black?

Waxing:

I have the ff.:

- meguiar's ultimate quik wax
- microtex nanoglos
- microtex nanosliq
- micromagic wax applicator
- microtex ultra plush, 1 for nanoglos, 1 for collinite

Will buy Collinite 915 soon.

Questions:

1. I plan to wax every 2 months with collinite 915. Tama ba itong procedure ko? Magpapatong ba yung nanogloss at collinite?

a. Wash car.
b. Apply nanogloss. Cure. Buff.
c. Apply collinite 915. Still don't know how to use this though. Cure? Buff.
d. Apply uqw. Wipe on, wipe off.

2. Since every two months lang ako magwax, tama ba na weekly carwash tapos maintain/protect na lang yung wax using uqw? Or kelangan ko pa rin mag nanoglos?
3. Any problems sa routine na ito considering maya't maya ang ulan sa atin?

For days na hindi ako magcacarwash, i-CCD ko na lang siya.

Important Question:
Hindi ko pa napapa-exterior detail yung auto ko at medyo may mga contaminants and kelangan siguro i-clay bar, etc. Pero wala pa kasi akong budget para dun. Okay lang ba gawin yung mga sinulat ko kahit medyo 'marumi' pa yung kotse? Hindi ba maaapektuhan yung kapit nung chemicals or something like that?

Yun na lang muna. Wala pa akong alam sa mga sealants, glazes, cleaning wax, polishing wax, etc.

Thanks in advance guys. Really need help from the pros. :D

[indiej]

cleaner wax ka sa una tsaka na ang pag patong patong ng wax. importante ang malinis ang pintura, sunod lamang ang wax. sa cleaner wax sapul ng isang bato ang 2 itlog.

tama ang paghugas ng kotse ng kada linggo o mas madalas at laging may shampoo para madulas. tsaka mo na rin isipin ang pag glaze sa pagtago ng mga gasgas ngunit kung gusto mo talagang subukan, gawin mo nang per panel.

pag kumpleto mo na ang clay bar kit at collinite kabisado mo na ang paglinis at pagpaganda sa sasakyan mo. pwede ang collinite ipatong sa na cleaner wax o nanoglos.

malaking microfiber na tuwalya na malakas simipsip ng tubig ang kailangan mo upang mapadali ang pagtuyo sa bagong hugas na kotse, sa gayon di ka tatamarin maghugas. masdan mo rin kung ano ang malinis kung hahayaang matuyo, tubig sa gripo o tubig ulan.

[umi001]

I'll break up your message and reply bit by bit

specs:
black car
outdoor parking, no cover

Hello mga sir/maam. Questions lang po regarding exterior detailing and carwash.
Marami na po kasi akong mga nabasa and yung iba naghalo-halo na. Confirm ko lang po mga napick-up ko.

Washing:

I bought the ff. for washing my car weekly:

- microtex car shampoo
- microtex washmitt for shampoo application
- microtex elite for drying
- microtex tire black
- mother's tire brush

I'd consider getting a second washmitt (can be a cheaper brand) for your lower panels.

Questions:

1. Is it okay to use the shampoo weekly? Sabi sa label it won't strip wax.

Yes, no issues with using the shampoo weekly. Make sure you use it in the proper dilution (instructions call for two capfuls for 2.5 liters of water, which work out to around 1:83).

2. Weekly rin ba ang application ng tire black? Okay na ba yung microtex na brand for tire black?

Microtex is a good brand for tire black (it's what I use). You probably won't need to apply weekly (maybe every other week), but I find myself doing so anyway, since I like to the look of freshly dressed tires.

Waxing:

I have the ff.:

- meguiar's ultimate quik wax
- microtex nanoglos
- microtex nanosliq
- micromagic wax applicator
- microtex ultra plush, 1 for nanoglos, 1 for collinite

Will buy Collinite 915 soon.

Good product selection. I'd consider getting more towels. No need to get the ultra plush, the plush will do. I'd get two to three Microtex Terrys (for wax removal) and two or three Plush towels (for QD and final wipe).

Questions:

1. I plan to wax every 2 months with collinite 915. Tama ba itong procedure ko? Magpapatong ba yung nanogloss at collinite?

a. Wash car.
b. Apply nanogloss. Cure. Buff.
c. Apply collinite 915. Still don't know how to use this though. Cure? Buff.
d. Apply uqw. Wipe on, wipe off.

Just to clarify, there is a difference between drying and curing time. You generally let a wax dry (haze over), and then buff it off. However, you still need to give it some time after that to cross-link - this is the curing time. For your case, here's what I'd do.

Week 1: wash + NanoGlos (dry, buff, cure) + 915 (dry, buff, cure)
Week 2: wash + NanoSliq
Week 3: wash + NanoSliq
Week 4: wash + UQW
Week 5: wash + NanoSliq
Week 6: wash + NanoSliq
Week 7: start again

Before this though, I would do the week 1 step, but then just do weekly washes, until you see the 915 deteriorating. Why? This is so you can get baseline for how long the 915 will last, given your driving and parking conditions - then you can gauge whether you can go up to two months in between 915 applications.

2. Since every two months lang ako magwax, tama ba na weekly carwash tapos maintain/protect na lang yung wax using uqw? Or kelangan ko pa rin mag nanoglos?

Weekly carwash is fine. You can also apply the UQW weekly, but I wouldn't - there's no point in spending the money for a durable product if you're not going to leverage on that durability. Apply it after three weeks - that with the NanoSliq should be more than enough to keep your 915 layer healthy in between applications. Keep things simple, no need to multi-layer and over-complicate things

3. Any problems sa routine na ito considering maya't maya ang ulan sa atin?

Try and find a dry span of time when you wax (check your weather forecasts )

For days na hindi ako magcacarwash, i-CCD ko na lang siya.

Important Question:
Hindi ko pa napapa-exterior detail yung auto ko at medyo may mga contaminants and kelangan siguro i-clay bar, etc. Pero wala pa kasi akong budget para dun. Okay lang ba gawin yung mga sinulat ko kahit medyo 'marumi' pa yung kotse? Hindi ba maaapektuhan yung kapit nung chemicals or something like that?

Yun na lang muna. Wala pa akong alam sa mga sealants, glazes, cleaning wax, polishing wax, etc.

Thanks in advance guys. Really need help from the pros. :D

It should be ok, though you might not get the best durability. One thing I will say is that you should really consider claying first - it's one of the most bang-for-the-buck things you can do, in terms of immediate results. You will definitely feel the difference in an unclayed and a clayed surface, especially if the car hasn't been maintained in a long time. Also, sometimes just claying can help increase paint clarity and gloss. Also, as indiej has mentioned, it's worth using a cleaner wax or pre-wax cleaner the first time - this will help pull embedded contaminants from the car, and will, along with clay, ensure a clean surface to work with. The NanoGlos does have some mild cleaners, but a dedicated pre-wax cleaner/cleaner wax would be more effective. You can probably find sachets of turtle wax cleaner wax in malls; heck, if you're not in the general area, I could probably give you some pre-wax cleaner to use on your car.

[jagg18]

Thanks for your replies indiej, umi001!

Additional questions:

1. Which brand of cleaner wax would you recommend?
2. Which brand of clay bar would you recommend? Okay ba yung liquid clay bar ng turtle wax? For solid clay bars, I'll need a quick detailer pampadulas, tama ba?

Good product selection. I'd consider getting more towels. No need to get the ultra plush, the plush will do. I'd get two to three Microtex Terrys (for wax removal) and two or three Plush towels (for QD and final wipe).

Nabasa ko somewhere na hindi na raw okay ang terry cloth. Kaya panay ultra plush binili ko. 2 lang naman.
So ganito: 1 wax applicator pad for each. cleaner wax, nanoglos, 915 at nanosliq.
For wax removal, 1 plush/ultra plush cloth per wax (kulang pa ko ng 2). For buffing, same cloth pero ibang side. I-fold ko na lang.
Tapos for uqd, balak kong bumili ng meguiar's supreme shine.

Just to clarify, there is a difference between drying and curing time. You generally let a wax dry (haze over), and then buff it off. However, you still need to give it some time after that to cross-link - this is the curing time. For your case, here's what I'd do.

Week 1: wash + NanoGlos (dry, buff, cure) + 915 (dry, buff, cure)
Week 2: wash + NanoSliq
Week 3: wash + NanoSliq
Week 4: wash + UQW
Week 5: wash + NanoSliq
Week 6: wash + NanoSliq
Week 7: start again

Before this though, I would do the week 1 step, but then just do weekly washes, until you see the 915 deteriorating. Why? This is so you can get baseline for how long the 915 will last, given your driving and parking conditions - then you can gauge whether you can go up to two months in between 915 applications.

Ah thanks. Nalito ako sa curing at drying/hazing. Hehe.

Tama, weekly wash muna until magdeteriorate na yung quality ng water beading. Nabasa ko na kapag nagbbead pa yung water, may wax pa.

It should be ok, though you might not get the best durability. One thing I will say is that you should really consider claying first - it's one of the most bang-for-the-buck things you can do, in terms of immediate results. You will definitely feel the difference in an unclayed and a clayed surface, especially if the car hasn't been maintained in a long time. Also, sometimes just claying can help increase paint clarity and gloss. Also, as indiej has mentioned, it's worth using a cleaner wax or pre-wax cleaner the first time - this will help pull embedded contaminants from the car, and will, along with clay, ensure a clean surface to work with. The NanoGlos does have some mild cleaners, but a dedicated pre-wax cleaner/cleaner wax would be more effective. You can probably find sachets of turtle wax cleaner wax in malls; heck, if you're not in the general area, I could probably give you some pre-wax cleaner to use on your car.

Okay. So wash -> cleaner wax -> wash? -> clay bar -> wash? -> wax for initial.
Tapos wash -> wax na lang for maintenance.

May isa pa akong problema hehe. Sumabit ako sa gutter so may dent at scratch yung [insert car part name here, yung sa ilalim ng pintuan malapit sa gulong. yung lower part ng rocker panel ata yun?]. Paayos ko muna yun bago ko simulan itong detailing ng auto ko? :D

Again, maraming salamat sa pagsagot. Thanks in advance! :D