Detailing Thread [For Newbies][continued 2]

[madkatz]

grabe inabot na ako ng 1:30am sa backread....eto na hanap kong beauty regimen...question ms madkatz...comment ko mark in fuschia

1. Step 1
2. Step 2
IPA (or hindi na kelangan)
3. Sealant
4. Wax ( after 12/24 hours )

with regards to layering the sealant pala ms madkatz kelangan ba talaga hindi gamitin yung car or much better during the curing time eh wag gamitin...

IPA would be recommended but not required, pls read prior post

as with the previous steps i mentioned, there are a lot of products that can be used for step 2, its a step not a product abbreviation, if you are just topping it with wax then after step 2 go straight to wax, if you plan on putting a sealant on top, it again depends with whether the sealant and step2 are compatible, try to understand that reason that most sealant won't really bond to the paint that has oils

it would be best to not use the car, because driving the car around might accumulate road film or any other particles on the paint, as you can notice with BB they don't hold back customers to drive off with their cars right after the sealing process because they won't be adding anymore layers but with the scenario that you will be it would be "best" to leave it alone for 24 hours but "not" really required, you just won't get the maximum benefit

[madkatz]

ms madkatz,

when i said overcoat it means that they will apply clear coat again after doing those steps that i mentioned.

so anong magandang gawin ko:

- ipasok ko sa kanila then gawin nila yung steps mentioned above?
- ipasok ko sa kanila with a different procedure that this group may suggest differently from the steps that they suggested?
- or wag ko na ipasok sa kanila and ako na lang mag clay?

ang habol ko lang sa totoo lang is malibre yung procedure coz pasok pa sa warranty and HARI told me that they will address my concern.

pwede rin ako mag clay yunl ang sayang yung libreng procedure...

thoughts please...

if you're sure that they will be applying a new layer of clear coat, then that would be the best option for me, but also be sure that they use the exact same clear coat for the specific car model and that they have a infrared oven or some sort

[Nik]

generally its ok to not clay and go directly to swirlX but if its a bad case of breakdust or industrial fall out on the paint, those which feel like very sharp dusts you might want to clay since applying swirlX might push these around and create more scratches, but generally it would be ok to remove clay from the procedure it really depends on the paint condition

To Nik: i agree with the second paragraph, im actually a bit let down by what Mike Philips said because we really did an actual test on which one lasts longer, NSC on bare paint or NSC on a glazed paint we you could really see the sheeting gone with the glazed paint thats why we have acrylic, polymer and urethane based glazes hanging around, these are designed to work as a glaze that is compatible with whatever the nature of the sealant is, generally polymer based and acrylic glazes really work well with sealants.

thanks to you guys !! i think i need to use clay already.. (sakit na sa kamay nung pag ka gaspang,feels like sandpaper)

mam madkatz ask ko lang po.. yung megs step2 what type of glaze siya? nag search ako wala ako mahanap pasensya na po..

just in case ok lang po ba ganto swirlX - megs step2 - IPA..

kasi po habol ko sa step2 yung mas refine na pag tangal nya ng swirls hindi yung oils nya..

TIA

[Nik]

with some sites they are very strict with their standards as with our mentors standards, so we were taught to clay first before using any machine on the paint to remove embedded dusts that might cause more swirls, but to be honest it really all depends on the paint condition, you would see some detailers out there winning trophies and plaques for detailing but they don't even know what a clay is.

with the IPA its always better to do IPA so that NSC cleans better, its like taking away a huge portion of NSC's job enabling NSC to perform better, like with what indiej said its an optional step but a highly recommended one

the routine looks nice but the application of step 2 might cause you bonding problems with the sealant

thanks again mam.. got the "not necessary but recommended" products.. like IPA and clay.. (sa clay po i think need na talaga haha gaspang na kasi sobra)

thanks takbo na po ako papunta grocery and i'll buy hindi lang pang pamilya pang sports pa alcohol in green bottle (turo sakin ni master ed) pure iso daw yun.. thanks again po

[Nik]

grabe inabot na ako ng 1:30am sa backread....eto na hanap kong beauty regimen...question ms madkatz...comment ko mark in fuschia

1. Step 1
2. Step 2
IPA (or hindi na kelangan)
3. Sealant
4. Wax ( after 12/24 hours )

with regards to layering the sealant pala ms madkatz kelangan ba talaga hindi gamitin yung car or much better during the curing time eh wag gamitin...

sir tip ko po.. lahat nung may post ko read mo yung isasagot nila.. same tayo ng tanong about some issues..

[jed_015]

with some sites they are very strict with their standards as with our mentors standards, so we were taught to clay first before using any machine on the paint to remove embedded dusts that might cause more swirls, but to be honest it really all depends on the paint condition, you would see some detailers out there winning trophies and plaques for detailing but they don't even know what a clay is.

with the IPA its always better to do IPA so that NSC cleans better, its like taking away a huge portion of NSC's job enabling NSC to perform better, like with what indiej said its an optional step but a highly recommended one

the routine looks nice but the application of step 2 might cause you bonding problems with the sealant

agree ako about dun sa mga detailers na may trophies..

[vaio]

good day fellow tsikoteers!. God i dont know where to start. were getting a brand new honda jazz taffeta white. this will be our 1st car. gusto ko sana matuto ng DIY car wash. since white pa po ung napili namin, medyo prone ata ito sa dumi. clueless po talaga ko pag dating dito. nagbasa ko dito sa thread na to, pero di ko maintindihan. pasensya na po still a newbie.

gusto ko sana malaman what kind of cleaning materials should i buy? cleaning cloth pang interior and exterior? ung di nakakagasgas. ung mga inaapply sa auto (wax, etc.). where to buy these stuff? what brands? what should i do first?. pasensya na po talaga at di ko pa alam tong mga 'to. hope you can answer my questions and you guys can guide me how. thanks a lot.

[PSI]

good day fellow tsikoteers!. God i dont know where to start. were getting a brand new honda jazz taffeta white. this will be our 1st car. gusto ko sana matuto ng DIY car wash. since white pa po ung napili namin, medyo prone ata ito sa dumi. clueless po talaga ko pag dating dito. nagbasa ko dito sa thread na to, pero di ko maintindihan. pasensya na po still a newbie.

gusto ko sana malaman what kind of cleaning materials should i buy? cleaning cloth pang interior and exterior? ung di nakakagasgas. ung mga inaapply sa auto (wax, etc.). where to buy these stuff? what brands? what should i do first?. pasensya na po talaga at di ko pa alam tong mga 'to. hope you can answer my questions and you guys can guide me how. thanks a lot.

Idol saan loc mo? if you like puntahan mo ko marikina, bigyan kita ng hands on sa pag wash..... dala ka 1.5 na sprite.....

[vaio]

Idol saan loc mo? if you like puntahan mo ko marikina, bigyan kita ng hands on sa pag wash..... dala ka 1.5 na sprite.....

laguna area po ako.

[aejhayl17]

Idol saan loc mo? if you like puntahan mo ko marikina, bigyan kita ng hands on sa pag wash..... dala ka 1.5 na sprite.....

ako magddala 1.5Lna sprite, kaw na bahala sa the bar? hehehehe

BTT: washed my car this morning, first time since i removed my skirts. ayun, iba nga ang kulay ng panel sa may skirt dati against sa whole body. ano kaya remedyo dito? wag naman sana washover. no budget yet.

[Chikselog]

*sir vaio
Reposting my post from another forum.

RE: Proper Washing

Items you need:
A Washmitt (Or a Plushy MF towel like Microtex Plush/Ultra Plush)


Good Lubricity Car Shampoo (Megs, Moms, Microtex, Polyglaze etc.)


2 Buckets

Now you might be wondering, para saan yung 2 buckets? Bakit dalawa? You'll know later on.

Step A
To start things off, fill one bucket with water, yung tamang puno lang, wag naman overflowing.

Then on the other bucket, dilute the shampoo in water until you get the right consistency.

HOW TO CHECK IF SHAMPOO HAS THE CORRECT CONSISTENCY:
1. Dip your hand onto your shampoo solution. So basa na ng shampoo kamay mo. Then
2. Pagdikitin mo yung thumb and index finger mo na parang gagawa ka ng "snap".


3. Then squeeze your thumb and index finger, kapag dumulas, tama ang consistency, kapag medyo rough or "sumasabit", mali na ang consistency.



Take note na dapat tama lang yung dulas, di masyadong madulas and di masyadong rough.

Also take note na hindi porket mabula ang shampoo, ok na. You have to check talaga.

Alright moving on. Now that you know the right consistency of the car shampoo to be used, let's move on to the next step.

Step B
1. Basain na yung kotse. Rinse it thoroughly para matanggal ang mga loose dirt (or dust the car before rinsing it).
2. Dip your wash mitt/MF towel into the shampoo bucket, and wring it (pigain). Then start from the topmost part of the car until you reach the half part of your car (let's say until the middle of the doors).
3. Rinse the shampoo-ed area of the car.
4. Take your wash mitt/MF towel and dip it into the bucket full of water. Do not dip it until you reach the bottom part of the bucket, basta malubog lang yung wash mitt ayos na. Kuskusin mo habang nasa ilalim ng tubig para matanggal ang dirt. Then wring it again.
5. Repeat Step 2 on the remaining part of the car. Then repeat Step 3 and 4.

Step C
Dry with clean MF towel or a Chamois. Just be careful in using a Chamois. Don't drag it too much, it might scratch the paint.

Also be aware that the Chamois, when you drag it onto the paint, has a really big chance of removing your wax. Been there, done that. Kaya MF towel na gamit ko pang dry hehe.

[dbhollanda]

if you're sure that they will be applying a new layer of clear coat, then that would be the best option for me, but also be sure that they use the exact same clear coat for the specific car model and that they have a infrared oven or some sort

thanks ms madkatz sa input. i'll ensure na mag clear coat nga sila and sundin yung mga recommendations mo. ipapasok ko yung SF sa kanila by Nov 2.

[PSI]

ako magddala 1.5Lna sprite, kaw na bahala sa the bar? hehehehe

BTT: washed my car this morning, first time since i removed my skirts. ayun, iba nga ang kulay ng panel sa may skirt dati against sa whole body. ano kaya remedyo dito? wag naman sana washover. no budget yet.

oi nabuhay ka...... ala na yan idol.... try mo clay para luminis na lang..... it will take time......

sige kelan ka punta?? IM me your cpone no.... me kalakaraan

[aejhayl17]

oi nabuhay ka...... ala na yan idol.... try mo clay para luminis na lang..... it will take time......

sige kelan ka punta?? IM me your cpone no.... me kalakaraan

pagpunta ko diyan, tirahin naten auto ko? hehehe habang nag-aalak? ayain ko si doc scarnhorst o kaya si doc yung taga fatima din.

pagkatapos siguro ng releasing ng grades ako pwede. hehe

[Hardinero]

*sir vaio
Reposting my post from another forum.

RE: Proper Washing

Items you need:
A Washmitt (Or a Plushy MF towel like Microtex Plush/Ultra Plush)

may iba pa palang kulay ang microtex washmitt? kakabili ko lang kasi sa ace hardware ang kulay nya eh beige o kulay putik siya...

and sabi pa sakin ng clerk eh yan lang ang kulay nyan sir...

kakatanggal pala wax chamois..i'm using pa naman yung 3M...gamitin ko na nga lang yung microtex elite towel tas yung cali jelly blade ko eh for windows and roof na lang...thanks for sharing paps..

how about nga pala yung shampoo ng bigberts ok din ba yun? yun kasi gamot ko...


*madkatz thanks for the tip ma'am..

[jmpet626]

California Washmitts ata brand yung ganyang color yan yung nabibili sa S&r na set.

[Hardinero]

California Washmitts ata brand yung ganyang color yan yung nabibili sa S&r na set.

ah eh di tama pala yung clerk na isa lang talaga kulay ng microtex washmitt..hehe..

sm arnold washmitt kasi gamit ko before mukhang mas ok nga microtex washmitt kung hindi lang maulan ngaun eh mag-carwash sana ako...

[Chikselog]

Google images lang yang washmitt images na yan.

[blue_centrix]

Fellow tsikoteers, question lang po. Pano po matatanggal yung paint na dumikit sa auto ng cousin ko? Nagpintura po kasi ng cabinet yung kapitbahay nila using compressor, medyo mahangin that time and umabot sa car yung yung mist ng paint, white enamel paint yung dumikit sa habanero civic. Meron po bang nabibili na something na pwedeng gamitin to remove yung parang mist na dumikit? Or kailangan ng dalin sa detailing shop? If so, any recommended shop?

Second question po, ano po yung recommended shop niyo na pwedeng magre-paint and repair ng pinto ng nissan urvan namin? Yung ok na shop po sana at yung malapit sa makati.

Thanks in advance.

[indiej]

A1: do this asap. you need a claying kit or go to big bert's pasig or g.araneta. either option is cost effective. it will be costly if you wait.

A2: this shop in makati post or pm first to get more info.