Detailing Thread [For Newbies][continued 2]

[indiej]

yes you can.

i read klasse/carlack68 or something similar to that

[indiej]

*Hardinero, thanks for mentioning carnauba cleaner. i found one in the old stock and tried it on dried water spots from the beading of 476s. It worked wonderfully. it took more effort and pressure with a QD & MF and was not entirely convincing.

TWCC was waxed on foam applicator then wiped off with a short napped MF towel. a few light passes in WOWO, it was effortless and effective. later on i'll get a proper cleaner wax for Collinites.

[Hardinero]

*Hardinero, thanks for mentioning carnauba cleaner. i found one in the old stock and tried it on dried water spots from the beading of 476s. It worked wonderfully. it took more effort and pressure with a QD & MF and was not entirely convincing.

TWCC was waxed on foam applicator then wiped off with a short napped MF towel. a few light passes in WOWO, it was effortless and effective. later on i'll get a proper cleaner wax for Collinites.

paps, is carnauba cleaner won't strip your 476? what nga pala yung proper cleaner wax for collinites mas ok kasi gamitin yung native product nya para bond properly talaga no..

para yung cleaner carnuaba ko eh pang tanggal ko na lang acid rain..thanks for sharing din paps kasi last time ginamitan ko ng vinegar eh...mali pala yun..

*PSI how sweet of you bro...bale paps, if di ko kinaya pero malamang kayanin naman...gulo no.....next weekend pa naman ako mag-start....buti pa kayo walang pasok sa monday...kami meron...waaa..

[PSI]

*PSI how sweet of you bro...bale paps, if di ko kinaya pero malamang kayanin naman...gulo no.....next weekend pa naman ako mag-start....buti pa kayo walang pasok sa monday...kami meron...waaa..

eh doble pay ka naman eh....

kung kaya ng 1-2-3..... dito naten sa labas tirahin yung wash/clay/1/2.... by hand nga lang.... tapos start tayo mga 5am..... tapos tayo mga ala pang 7am

[Nik]

actually 2 layers should already be enough if you're planning on maintaining it with waxes weekly, don't spend too much on multiple layers if its gonna be well kept and maintained, just try to save the product so you get more results longer with the bottle, actually if someone waxes his car weekly heck even NXT, Gold Class, TW PUG and Moms Step 3 and FX would already do the job. try to make the sealant work for you, keep it simple with 2 layers and then just relayer after a few months

layering multiple sealant won't really guarantee you a perfect finish from the elements, check out my post last december when i had a multiple layer of sealants 2 layers m-seal and 2 layers KSG topped with 2 layers 915 and blitz acrylic spray sealant as topper, after i finished that setup i went to canyon woods feeling like nothing would harm my paint, then comes those pine tree saps that really etched into my paint, now if you think of it, i had a total of 7 layers all cured properly and boosted with polycharger and the tree saps still etched through, kinda hurts right? all the effort down the drain? thats why im telling you guys to keep it simple, 2 is enough, 2 more of another sealant would be great but if time is a problem with layering multiple layers then why work against time right? why not just apply it more frequently? all im saying is, if time and schedule really makes layering hard for you then just change your routine, you really don't have to do multiple layers especially since you're waxing already every week

thanks mam sa tip.. so 2 layers nalang po is enough? kala ko max of 3 pwede. ginawa ko lang po na 4 layers everynight para makasigurado na may layer kasi po 12hrs curing time lang so i'm not sure if talaga bang kumapit hehe

pero thanks po sa tip nyo dun sa drying time .. gagawin ko po yung test if ok na i buff para hindi sayang effort ko at para 2 nights nalang ako mag layer.. salamat po ulit

tapos na board exam.. ma-haharap ko na ulit yung car

[indiej]

paps, is carnauba cleaner won't strip your 476? what nga pala yung proper cleaner wax for collinites mas ok kasi gamitin yung native product nya para bond properly talaga no..

won't TWCC strip 476s? maybe i can tell in a few weeks. did it strip 476s a little? maybe a little cos the water spots are gone. i just lightly ran the foam then waxed off. i think it's Collinite Sapphire Auto Wax but it could be a stronger wax cleaner.

sealants require considerable time and effort to be effective (6 months protection in favorable conditions) hence my concern and wish to lessen the frequency of their application. i wouldn't sweat it with waxes.

what madkatz said, there are just some natural substances that can etch through paint that need to be cleaned off the surface asap to avoid damage. no layer of any product can withstand it, the clearcoat sure can't withstand it.

bird droppings here and there is ok, but if a week of sun-dried water beads does that, i better invest more on paint refinishing, say the next few 10Ts Php after 20T of detailing products.

[Nik]

guys this week eto plan ko..

suggestion guys before ko gawin para isang pasada lang hehe..

wash - remove asphalt - clay - swirlx - megs step2 - Carlack68 NSC - carlack68 LLS (12 hrs curing time kasi gagamitin kinabukasan) - LLS again after gamitin yung auto (wash muna before LLS)

aayusin ko na pag buff nung LLS para 2 application lang..

by this week sana maka bili na ako kay master ng 476s

[indiej]

Nik

please make sure to wash off your asphalt remover
delete claying and megs step 2.

insert IPA after swirlx. For 70% Isopropyl alchohol, a 2:1 mix alcohol and water will do. spray the panel then wipe carefully with MF.

[Starex_Gold]

Share lang..

testing Moms Step 2 + Collinite 915. Hood only. hehe Black Tucson

[jed_015]

Share lang..

testing Moms Step 2 + Collinite 915. Hood only. hehe Black Tucson

bangis sir..

[Hardinero]

Share lang..

testing Moms Step 2 + Collinite 915. Hood only. hehe Black Tucson

ganda ng depth paps.....ano yung steps 2 na gamit mo?

[scharnhorst]

*GS: dalawa pala tucson nyo... hehe. ano na pala nangyari dun sa crdi tuc ninyo sir?

napadaan ako kanina sa autobisyo whilst on the way to santa rosa. parang nakakatempt yung souveran. hehe

anyone here going to Rockwell later? hehe

[Hardinero]

ms madkatz,

1) for drying i'm using jelly blade muna para mabawasan yung tubig before ko i-wipe dry..

would jelly blade cause swirl marks and can strip wax

2) which is better between the two wash mitts yung sm arnold or microtex? yung microtex eto yung bilog bilog yung strand nya diba...

thanks,
hardinero

[jmpet626]

*GS: dalawa pala tucson nyo... hehe. ano na pala nangyari dun sa crdi tuc ninyo sir?

napadaan ako kanina sa autobisyo whilst on the way to santa rosa. parang nakakatempt yung souveran. hehe

anyone here going to Rockwell later? hehe

What time ba parang gusto ko din pumunta wala lang ako kasama

[Starex_Gold]

doc Scharn: Hindi. Isa lang Tucson ko. hahaha Sa kasama ko yan sa Tucson.PH. Fellow Premium owner din siya. Pinag initan ko lang kasi black. hahaha

hardinero: Mothers Sealer and Glaze sir.

jed_015: Thanks.

[scharnhorst]

What time ba parang gusto ko din pumunta wala lang ako kasama

punta ako mga 6 pm, sabi ni sir Ed morning till night daw yung sa Hillsborough

[Starex_Gold]

Anong meron sa Rockwell ngayon?

[scharnhorst]

Magdedemo ata ng detailing yung Hillsborough sa mga exotic na auto. hehe

[electone]

actually 2 layers should already be enough if you're planning on maintaining it with waxes weekly, don't spend too much on multiple layers if its gonna be well kept and maintained, just try to save the product so you get more results longer with the bottle, actually if someone waxes his car weekly heck even NXT, Gold Class, TW PUG and Moms Step 3 and FX would already do the job. try to make the sealant work for you, keep it simple with 2 layers and then just relayer after a few months

layering multiple sealant won't really guarantee you a perfect finish from the elements, check out my post last december when i had a multiple layer of sealants 2 layers m-seal and 2 layers KSG topped with 2 layers 915 and blitz acrylic spray sealant as topper, after i finished that setup i went to canyon woods feeling like nothing would harm my paint, then comes those pine tree saps that really etched into my paint, now if you think of it, i had a total of 7 layers all cured properly and boosted with polycharger and the tree saps still etched through, kinda hurts right? all the effort down the drain? thats why im telling you guys to keep it simple, 2 is enough, 2 more of another sealant would be great but if time is a problem with layering multiple layers then why work against time right? why not just apply it more frequently? all im saying is, if time and schedule really makes layering hard for you then just change your routine, you really don't have to do multiple layers especially since you're waxing already every week

VERY wise advice, as i just recently learned myself. A month ago, I put on a total of 5 layers of Zaino products on my black car. A week ago, I left the car in the dealership for an oil change. At the same time, I went out of town and came back three days later to pick it up. Que horror! the once china-smooth paint was now as rough as fine sandpaper. My skin made a horrible raspy sound when I swiped my palm over the paint. The wiper made a horrible sound on the windshield, too! I washed the car, but it didn't remove the surface contaminants.

So I had to CLAY the car. And all those 5 layers of the month-old Zaino came off! And to think I was planning to keep it there for 4 to 6 months!

I only reapplied 2 coats this time. Lesson learned.

[Hardinero]

comrades, what are your thoughts on mothers powerball?