Tsikot.ph PHUV Prototype

[jpdm]

Guys, how could I join this group?

We have the experience and background, but everybody knows by now that we lack on the financial side and political support.

But I would love to contribute ideas, expertise, etc. to the group.

Please pm sir jedi sir.
Your expertise will be of great help!

[jpdm]

My cousin used to work for Mitsubishi here in our country. He was one of the guys ijnvolved in the production of engine blocks for all sort of Mitsubishi combustion engines.

As he described what they did, I was surprised to find out that producing an engine was actually a simple process.

First they form a mold made out of sand... then they pour in the melted metal alloy... then they bore the holes for the piston, valves, water and oil... tapos.

The problem is that alloys are normally patented. The dies for the moulds in making IC's is a monopoly of Hitachi Metal Industries. Hitachi is the only company that supplies these metals for the IVC molds just as formerly, it was Germany who monopolized the LCD's that Korea broke into with a slight modification in making thier own LCD complnents.

Perhaps, we can do as Taiwan has bee doing which is buying all the scrap metal all around South East Asia at a price that the British Commonwealth could not undercut.

Mga machinery grade metals lang ating bilhin and create our own engine blocks... marami naman tayong magagaling na metalurgist na Pinoy.

Ang ating machinist are one of the best in the world if not the best... kaya lang nanduon sila sa Singapore, Japan, Australia, Taiwan, the US at iba pang mga developed countries.

Mayroon pa rin though tayong magagaling na precision machinist still here at madaming mga nakatiwangwang na mga kung anu-anong lathe machine around. May nakita nga akong machine shop na kumpleto sa Pque sa may Sucat road na puwedeng makagawa ng kahjit ano, malaki man o maliit... lying idle at sinusubakn ibentang scrap. Kung may pera lang ako'y binili ko na't nakalalaway ang mga computerize precision lathes doon talaga.

Sana in the future ang gobyerno natin seryosuhin ang pag-aayos ng ekonomiya natin at tutukan ang pag-unlad ng negosyo at industriyang Pinoy.

[uls]

yeah yeah yeah

the likes of me

rant rant rant

always looking for something in the past to blame

Marcos, etc etc

stop dwelling in the past

stop focusing on what the Phils. COULD HAVE BEEN

the chance for the Phils. to become an Asian industrial power has come and gone

the Phils. screwed up its chance decades ago

the role of the Phils. in the world is now clearly defined

we are a manpower agency

we are a provider of labor

that's it

like that planet in Star Wars where they mass produce soldiers

we mass produce nurses, caregivers, seamen, call center agents etc

we won't be mass producing cars or airplanes for the world

get over it

that role is already filled by other countries

every country has its own role in the world

that's the role of the Philippines

you can fight it all you want

you can build ONE 100% pinoy car and declare victory

but in the bigger scheme of things, it's just a drop of water in the ocean

[jpdm]

tama ka pero dito pa lang sa thread nito with the likes of uls di pa tayo nagsisimula eh binabagsak na tayo! usual crab mentality na tinanim ng spanish ang alam nitong mokong na ito- to all f.y.i. we did it before! we even developed a fighter plane back then and even japan recognize us a the next industrial power in asia, the indonesians agrees as well as the malaysians, ang nangyari ay bumagsak tayo dahil yung mga advisers ni marcos naging garapaL since they had franchise of foreign brand like ford kaya dati uso mga laser(lynx) and min cars lile colt(yun nga ang isang reason kung bakit nawala ang toyota sa bansa natin dati) tsk tsk tsk, death to crab mentality!!!!!

INTSIK - MEANING OF TAGALOG NG CHINESE WALA NG IBA!
KUNG MERON MANG MAPIKON EH BAKA NG BATA SILA AY PINAG AASAR SILA NG INTSIK BEHO OR MABAHONG INTSIK HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA BEHO IS NOT EVEN A PART OF INTSIK HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

and yes lucio tan na nagnakaw sa cavan ng bayan during the marcos time!
and yes the coujuangco by the likes of cory na pinalitan ang dictator pero 40 thieves ang nagtake over na puro kamaganak niya worst is wala pa siyang ginawa! and her brothers and cousins by the likes of danding na inovertake ang sdan miguel using coco levy fund - siya pa nag advise kay marcos na buwisan ang mga coco farmer for that fund na wala na nga halos kinita eh- and andiyan pa si tonyboy na monopoly ang telecommunication business dati - wala man sila sa spartly natural resources natin ginagamit ng mga intsik na yan- abugado ka ata ng mga intsik na ito eh- fight for your country be patriotic and natinalistic learn your history! to add para malaman ng iba eto ha alam niyo ba ang catholic church ay stock holder sa mga no. 1 business sa bansa natin, check out mga stock holders meeting ng pldt, san miguel and ayala's parating may pari! i am a roman catholic pero dapat reform

- no time to check for spelling bare with me, mamayang gabi ko na aayusin spelling and grammar ko.

Fastforward today, lack of government support stunted Philippine economic development.

Anyway, the good news is, the new Motor Vehicle Development Program (MVDP) of the BOI, if properly and strictly implemented might just revived our dying motor industry.

[victorevolution]

yeah yeah yeah

the likes of me

rant rant rant

always looking for something in the past to blame

marcos, etc etc

stop dwelling in the past

stop focusing on what the phils. Could have been

the chance for the phils. To become an asian industrial power has come and gone

the phils. Screwed up its chance decades ago

the role of the phils. In the world is now clearly defined

we are a manpower agency

we are a provider of labor

that's it

like that planet in star wars where they mass produce soldiers

we mass produce nurses, caregivers, seamen, call center agents etc

we won't be mass producing cars or airplanes for the world

get over it

that role is already filled by other countries

every country has its own role in the world

that's the role of the philippines

you can fight it all you want

you can build one 100% pinoy car and declare victory

but in the bigger scheme of things, it's just a drop of water in the ocean

thanks for proving that your an ass and my point!
Our heroes didnt die for this! Read, learn and understand our history! When a japanese frigate visited our country during the time of bonifacio, he asked for the help of japan against the spain, the japanese commodore on board though receptive declined to help us... Then and there bonifacio said the best help is self help!

Baka nanay tatay mo tagahugas ng pwet ng aso ng kano, thinking our country is an manning agency umalis ka ng bansa at huwag ka ng bumalik!

[jpdm]

thanks for proving that your an ass and my point!
Our heroes didnt die for this! Read, learn and understand our history! When a japanese frigate visited our country during the time of bonifacio, he asked for the help of japan against the spain, the japanese commodore on board though receptive declined to help us... Then and there bonifacio said the best help is self help!

Baka nanay tatay mo tagahugas ng pwet ng aso ng kano, thinking our country is an manning agency umalis ka ng bansa at huwag ka ng bumalik!

This is true actually. Bonifacio failed to get military support from this Japanese ship. Anyway, the rest is history. We got the firepower and actually defeated Spain when Aguinaldo et al used the money paid to them by the Spaniards when they were exiled in Hongkong.

Well, we should stop dwelling in the past. Its time to move on and we should do things right this time, who knows, we might get momentum and bring back the glory of the Philippines...

[jpdm]

Local truck body manufacturer Centro Manufacturing Corp. is expanding its operations despite the recession.


The company just announced the arrival of new state-of-the-art hydraulic press brake and shearing machines signaling the start of its major modernization program.


These new stamping equipments are also expected to improve the quality of the metal parts; increase the output and productivity of the stamping plant and; consequently, increase the daily production output of Centro’s two plants in Novaliches and Maguyam, Cavite.


from:
[SIZE=2]Truck body maker Centro expands[/SIZE]

[SIZE=2]Malaya Business Insights[/SIZE]

Dec.22, 2009

If there is local company that can produce quality PHUV, LCV, Truck and AUV bodies, Centro Manufacturing, Inc. is the one.

[uls]

thanks for proving that your an ass and my point!
Our heroes didnt die for this! Read, learn and understand our history! When a japanese frigate visited our country during the time of bonifacio, he asked for the help of japan against the spain, the japanese commodore on board though receptive declined to help us... Then and there bonifacio said the best help is self help!

Baka nanay tatay mo tagahugas ng pwet ng aso ng kano, thinking our country is an manning agency umalis ka ng bansa at huwag ka ng bumalik!

thanks for the history lesson

why don't you build yourself a time machine and transport yourself into the past and live there

hahaha

listen to yourself

"Our heroes didnt die for this!"

you are a classic case of someone still undergoing the 5 stages of grief (Kübler-Ross model)

denial --> anger --> bargaining --> depression --> acceptance

you're somewhere between denial and anger

you're in denial of the true state of the country

at the same time you're angry (well you sound angry)

still dwelling in the past

still dwelling in the glory days of the country

the Philippines lost the race

we had our chance to become great decades ago

we blew it

the Phils. is now a manpower agency

am i wrong?

or are you in denial?

i'm just "thinking" the Phils. is a manpower agency?

it's not something i think up

it's reality

no matter how much history you study, no matter how detailed your knowledge is about the history of this country, even if you know what Jose Rizal had for breakfast every single day of his life, it won't change the present

what you become is a good Philippine historian

that's it

you can fight reality all you want

go create your 100% pinoy engine, your 100% pinoy car

when the Philippines begins exporting 100% pinoy cars with 100% pinoy engines...

when the Philippines reduces the number of people exported and increases the number of finished goods exported...

when the Pinoy masses do not have to work abroad to get themselves out of poverty...

then i'd be glad to make bawi what is said about the Philippines being a manpower agency

but in the meantime... and for many years to come... the Philippines IS and WILL BE a manpower agency

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BTW, the last stage is Acceptance

then you will be at peace

[ghosthunter]

[victorevolution]

ULS hahahahahah

bobo, all you can show for is your foregin style thinking, aso ka lang ng kano ginamit mo pa yung german way of thinking ni bismarck hahahaha in the end bismark got kick out of germany bobo(bismark is a supremacist ass hole who looked down upon asians).

pinag aaralan history so we could learn from the past and do good.

ULS by the likes of you, a good filipino would have a hard time moving forward.

fyi- an engine that uses water converted to hydrogen has already been invented by a filipino, bibigyan na sana siya ng pera ni marcos kaso sa mga pilipino na tulad mo na kaibigan ni marcos na franchiser ng ford ay pinigil siya plus yung mga arabo.

in the ended nabaneta sa taiwan for the price of one million u.s. dollars

hindi pera or materials problema natin

problema natin mga katulad mo ULS na humihila sa mga gusto umunlad

at mga tao na gusto lang kumita at tumubo na parang lugaw!

[uls]

haha

whatever dude

your diatribe won't change anything

the country is a manpower agency

and will be a manpower agency for many more years

[AC]

kahit ayaw ko i have to agree with uls.. hehe
kilala nga ang pinas for its laborers..

fyi... evo... our national hero is mostly chinese..
the chinese has done alot for the philippines.. providing jobs and improving economy..

[Benji_DCP]

Acceptance stage.

[Benji_DCP]

fyi- an engine that uses water converted to hydrogen has already been invented by a filipino, bibigyan na sana siya ng pera ni marcos kaso sa mga pilipino na tulad mo na kaibigan ni marcos na franchiser ng ford ay pinigil siya plus yung mga arabo

I have to debunk your notion about this. Pinoy 'urban legend' lang ito. The guy who invented this has been exposed as a fraud. Too bad, sana nga this so called water engine was plausible.

[ghosthunter]

fyi- an engine that uses water converted to hydrogen has already been invented by a filipino, bibigyan na sana siya ng pera ni marcos kaso sa mga pilipino na tulad mo na kaibigan ni marcos na franchiser ng ford ay pinigil siya plus yung mga arabo.

in the ended nabaneta sa taiwan for the price of one million u.s. dollars

hindi pera or materials problema natin

FYI, Daniel Dingel (the so-called inventor of the water fueled car in the Philippines) has been exposed as a fraud and scam artist.

LINK:
"Water-Powered" Car Inventor, 82, gets 20 years for 'estafa ...
http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55577&

[ehnriko]

:thumbup:

I agree we need patriots to make this once Glorious country rise again and hopefully to make our children proud of us.

It is reall a sad fact that we are the Worl'd best producer of Super Maids, Super Nanny's and the best Labor the world can buy for their money. Evident with the word - OFW, OCW... Can anyone see an airport having an OFW Lane inside?... My Goodness.

Where have I encountered this information... that during World War 2 or before it erupted, a Propaganda was circulating all over Japan - that they will make Philippines a Slave Country. To do it, they need to bombard or esrase our heritage in history and make us stop using our imagination... thereby causing us to lose our vision of the future - making us an ideal pool of slaves.

When I did a research about Automotive Manufacturing in the Philippines in 1989... I was shocked to find out that - we don't have an existing industrial design industry that time - a missing link - vital for any industrial revolution to take place. Connecting it with history and current events... Sad to say - ULS is merely stating a harsh fact of reality - and it does have a sting.

It's not really meant to put us positivists down or discouraged... I would consider it reality check. There are only two things to do about it - maybe more. But what clearly goes into mind - are pretend that it's not true and be proud of Manny Pacquiao - being happy he is becoming more mega rich and hopefully more Pinoys emulate him and become more proud to be Pinoys?... or Do something really drastic like Start a Revolution.

A Revolution of Ideas - Culture and Attitude or Values.

I have started a revolution in my own little way - for myself anyway. After 1997 - I stopped buying a new car. As a matter of fact - I stopped buying a car for myself. I also stopped buying Clothes that are imported...come to think of it, I can't recall when was the last time I did.

Nowadays, I try as hard as I can not to buy any fossil fuel.... well, I have stopped buying foreign made oil already for more than a year now... Gasoline - I am still buying - but I try to buy only the cheapest so the Foreign Oil companies would make little profit margin from me as an individual. I would like to stop buying Gasoline if I can help it... hmmmm, maybe someday.

A Drastic action would also call for a push to make this country excell with industrial design or technology development - which is - where most Pinoys are good at. We dont have to necessarily manufacture them - China will still be the best source to produce the products, this is now their domain.

We cannot excell on something we don't have any control to... like Raw Materials and Equipments as well as Cheap Labor... but we have a highly skilled manpower pool... not to mention - pool of really smart and intellectual Pinoys.

Design, Drawings, Ideas - Concepts - this is our strong point - I believe - but we also export most of our Industrial Designers... Dondy is one, maybe more working outside - building other countries - except ours.

The Children of this Generation are starting to become pregnant at age 13! Why? - simply because their mother are taking care of other peoples children in HK and other countries.

How can a country become strong when the basic fiber of society is systematically destroyed?... it's a vicious cycle.

I dont recall where I heard this but it has something to do about the old Africa where more slaves are being proud of their warriors or heroes, this gives them a sort of attention they are seeking in order to hide their insecurity as a poor problematic nation. It is also evident in their colorful and loud graphic art works painted on their works as well as to their music or noise - a trait shared by Pinoys which is manifested on our Tricycles, Jeeps and Cityscape.

Why is every young adult wanting to be a Nurse or a Caregiver nowadays? - that's the question.

[ghosthunter]

Why is every young adult wanting to be a Nurse or a Caregiver nowadays? - that's the question.

First - there is a big demand for such abroad.

Second - the pay is big, at least bigger than what can be earned locally.

Third - retraining (for caregiver) takes a short period and requires less actual on-the-job experience than over skill oriented jobs currently also in demand.

Fourth - not enough high paying honest local jobs that doesn't work one to death and/or involves long weird hours.

Fifth - dreams of quickly uplifting oneself & family from the current low status/standards of living.

Sixth - local jobs (when available) will only pay enough for your daily living. Not enough gets saved for future needs nor for personal growth. What else if you are supporting a family?

[ehnriko]

Just reflecting out loud here..

Maybe we can share this old song to put more boost with positive thinkers.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxuKZSI6Pd8"]YouTube- Frank Sinatra High Hopes[/ame]

Just what makes that little old ant - think he'll move that rubber tree plant? Anyone knows that ant can't move that rubber tree plant.

But he's got High hopes. :-)

[ghosthunter]

Just what makes that little old ant - think he'll move that rubber tree plant? Anyone knows that ant can't move that rubber tree plant.

But he's got High hopes. :-)

So what we have here is a happy & hopeful ant that never goes anywhere in life.

So is that the analogy of the happy and hopeful Pinoys that seem never to get anywhere in life?

[ehnriko]

I remembered one priest in his sermon - saying that the last thing you should take away form people is HOPE.

Keep them hoping for the Best while expecting the Worse.

Enthusiasm is another thing - with Hope in tact, nothing Gets done without enthusiasm (as per Confucius).

But of course Enthusiasm requires some internal motivational factors to keep the fires burning in their eyes and bellies.

If this is kept up, the only remaining element to really make things going is IMAGINATION (as per Einstein).

With the 3 elements at hand, Venture Capital will always be nearby.

But of course, any plan should be bounded by time tables, available raw material sources, resources, usable assets, working capital if any...

But of course, the best investor for any project will always be no other than the very authors of the concept or idea. Simply because he will not put a pressure upon himself to meet deadlines (which can destroy creativity), since he can only put time and money and materials on the project as they are available.

During the lull times, he can spend it on other money making (profit generating) activities which are - should be- project- concept related - so he doesn't lose the enthusiasm.

The danger in putting time on non-related business to fund a hobby project will - one way or another - take away the enthusiasm/ passion on the idea.

Going back to OFW's....

The Hopeful OFW - will have a higher probability of really diving into the project is he or she is working in a job which is somewhat related or in any way be a source of ideas that can become contributory to his passion-hobby-project.

In building a prototype, the best people to really touch it would be - those who are also bought into the idea or the concept.

The Passion will just automatically come out.

Of course, all business sense suggest we cannot become like a China or Japan or even India in terms of becoming an Automotive Industrial country... But we can always - easily become similar to a Coventry England, or even a St. Agatha of Italy... if not an East German town building Trabants with outsourced engines from china maybe.



The point is... somebody or something should point the Pinoy - to the right track or direction so they can do something within their controls and not try to bite off more than they can chew.

We heard this very often before.... Concentrating on your strengths.... Use your weaknesses or downside as an advantage. Capitalize on strengths and see to it that they don't become the liability.