A Simple Solution to a Worldwide Crisis

[ghosthunter]

I have moved and created a new thread for the topic:

The Real Crisis... GLOBAL DIMMING

http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63827

[niky]

Alternative C:
The electric car goes on an automated guideway. The car gets its power from the electric lines on the guideway. This is more high-tech.
see http://www.tritrack.net/ and http://www.ruf.dk/

Unfortunately... it's extremely impractical and inexpensive. If our government already has to subsidize the somewhat simpler electricl light rail... what more an electrified highway? Some of the newer metro transit systems are segregated bus systems simply because it's more cost-effective.

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As for the question of who we will turn to for electrics... we might have no choice. Many of the start-ups for electrics in the US are turning towards the Chinese (and, in one case... the Koreans... with the Phoenix SUT / Ssangyong Actyon SUT) for platform donors. Witness new companies like Electrovaya, which uses the Chana Benni as a platform donor, even though it's partnered with Exxon Mobil. Heck... one of the more famous... errh... infamous electrics, the Xap Zebra, is merely a rebadge of a Chinese electric car.

Eventually, whether it's an American company or other... whatever electrics will hit our road will likely be made in China... thanks to the cheap labor they have there and the advantage they have in terms of volume.

[architect]

Hi Niky,

You got PM.

[niky]

Hi Niky,

You got PM.

Thanks, got it!

Sorry, haven't been able to respond. Net out in our area... paminsan minsan nalang ako online...

[architect]

No problem. I am patient.

[jpdm]

Solution to reduce dependence on fossil fuels...

Local firm to invest P1 billion on biomass facility in Isabela

By Donnabelle L. Gatdula
(The Philippine Star)
Updated October 28, 2009 12:00 AM

MANILA, Philippines - Local firm Lucky PPH International Inc. will invest P1 billion to put up a 7.2-megawatt biomass facility in Isabela, a ranking company official said.
Lucky PPH [COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important]project [COLOR=blue ! important]manager[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] Antonio Berza told reporters yesterday that they will be using Chinese technology to draw power from rice husk.
For the province of Isabela alone, Berza said they could harness around 10,000 metric tons of rice husk each month. In Cagayan, there is a potential monthly production of 50,000 MT.
Berza said this would allow the company to further expand capacity in the future.


Lucky PPH is one of 18 proponents of $2.2 billion worth of renewable [COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important]energy[/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important]projects[/COLOR][/COLOR] recently approved by the Department of Energy (DOE). The company has an existing 3.6-MW biomass facility in Alicia, Isabela which will be doubled in capacity within the next 12 months. Berza said the gasification system the company has exclusively developed could be marketed to those intending to put up similar facilities.
According to Berza, their system could accommodate other feedstock like corn and sawdust.


“We have been receiving a lot of inquiries about our technology and we would be happy to share it with interested parties,” he said.
So far, he said they are concentrating on tapping rice millers in Isabela province. He noted that many of these rice millers would want to put up their own co-generation facilities to lessen dependency on their local electric cooperatives.


Aside from being renewable and environment friendly, biomass-run power [COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important]plants[/COLOR][/COLOR] could produce cheaper electricity. Berza said on the average, they could offer their power 20 to 25 percent cheaper than what the National Power Corp. (Napocor) charges.


“There would be savings from putting up these kind of power plants and the savings would definitely be passed on to end-users,” he said.
The DOE has been pushing for the use of RE. After the passage of the RE bill last year, the DOE is optimistic that the share of RE in the country’s generation mix will be enhanced.


“In terms of the energy mix, we have already attained 58 percent energy self-sufficiency with [COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important]natural [COLOR=blue ! important]gas[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] in place. Renewable energy accounts for 43 percent, which includes hydroelectric power plants, geothermal, small wind and the biomass energy sector,” DOE assistant secretary Mario Marasigan said.


THe DOE official also expressed confidence the number of biomass projects that could be developed over time will increase.
“For instance, for sugar mills they’re using bagasse for power and heat requirement, some cement factories have converted some of their power requirement from rice husks to rice hulls. Some of them even use other forest residues. Biofuels is also catching with biodiesel also at two percent - which [COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important]account[/COLOR][/COLOR] for more than 94 million liters of capacity in the market although our current production is already beyond 300 million liters. For [COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important]ethanol[/COLOR][/COLOR], we may have very little production at the moment at 39 million liters compared with our requirement of at least 200 million liters a year for the five-percent requirement mandated by law,” he said.
He said there is a need to put focus on these developments to be able to provide long-term solutions to impending [COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important]power [COLOR=blue ! important]supply[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] challenges in the future.


“The greater concern is in the long-term. And for us in the DOE, the biggest challenge is how to maintain the 60-percent energy self-sufficiency in the next 20 years. And you can imagine that all over the urban areas there are always vertical [COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important]constructions[/COLOR][/COLOR] - and for every vertical construction whether residential or commercial this would require one to two-megawatts in terms of active power requirement,” he said.

[ehnriko]

I dont think that is a solution to a Worldwide Crisis.

Dependence on Foreign Oil or Fossil Fuel is not the problem...

It's Climate Change brought about by Global Dimming and Warming.

ISIS Report 28/09/09

Eighty percent of black carbon emissions come from fossil fuels and biomass burning associated with deforestation; reducing black carbon emissions may be the quickest, cheapest way to save the climate Dr. Mae-Wan Ho

New research shows that airborne soot, or black carbon (BC) aerosols resulting from incomplete combustion, are warming the earth much more than previously thought [1]. According to Veerabhadran Ramanathan at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography San Diego and Greg Carmichael at the University of Iowa, the warming effect of black carbon is 55 percent that of CO2, the biggest contributor to global warming.

more here: http://savetheplanetmovement.blogspo...cond-only.html

If the said Biomass Burning Generator can be burned cleanly... then it is probably a different story.

[jpdm]

I dont think that is a solution to a Worldwide Crisis.

Dependence on Foreign Oil or Fossil Fuel is not the problem...

It's Climate Change brought about by Global Dimming and Warming.

ISIS Report 28/09/09

Eighty percent of black carbon emissions come from fossil fuels and biomass burning associated with deforestation; reducing black carbon emissions may be the quickest, cheapest way to save the climate Dr. Mae-Wan Ho

New research shows that airborne soot, or black carbon (BC) aerosols resulting from incomplete combustion, are warming the earth much more than previously thought [1]. According to Veerabhadran Ramanathan at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography San Diego and Greg Carmichael at the University of Iowa, the warming effect of black carbon is 55 percent that of CO2, the biggest contributor to global warming.

more here: http://savetheplanetmovement.blogspo...cond-only.html

If the said Biomass Burning Generator can be burned cleanly... then it is probably a different story.

I beg to disagree.

Climate Change was the result of Global Dimming and Warming. And
global warming is the result of human activities such as excessive carbon emission.

Thus, IMHO, dependence on fossil fuel to run power plants, factories and vehicles is among the major global problems that needs solution.

As mentioned in the article you quoted, eighty percent of black carbon emissions come from fossil fuels (due to incomplete combustion). But the report also says biomass is bad because its associated with deforestation.

The article I quoted talks about biomass burning rice husks and its environmental friendly.

Although, I maybe corrected with my idea that biomass using rice husks is bad for the ecosystem.

[ehnriko]

If there will be an Industrial Forest model to follow... many European countries have set examples even Australia.

With regards to the rice husks... They are IMHO better as compost material or as alternative construction or building materials - ground mixed with resin to make particle boards - maybe it will work.

For Power Generation, BIO GAS is better if it can burn all the Methane gas it is producing. All the Cows crap and Pigs must be efficiently collected so as to utilize it instead of wasted at the expense of the environment..

The BIO CHAR Initiative is not as Green as it sounds.

[safeorigin]

hmmm... since alicia is just next to my town, i'll prolly check it out :S

[Phoenix67]

For Power Generation, BIO GAS is better if it can burn all the Methane gas it is producing. All the Cows crap and Pigs must be efficiently collected so as to utilize it instead of wasted at the expense of the environment..

ginagawa na eto ng mga new piggeries and farm and even some poultry farms.... ang cattle/carabao hindi pa kasi kauti pa at mas gusto nila itong organic fertilizer.

[Benji_DCP]

In the light of the recent flooding catastrophe, I believe the government should re-consider incinerating the Metro's garbage and convert it to electricity. It is a choice of the lesser evil. I am dismayed by the amount of garbage that has been washed-up and strewn back into the metro cities as a result of flooding. The tiny city-state of Singapore, incinerates all its garbage and yet you dont feel the smog or pollution.

[ghosthunter]

In the light of the recent flooding catastrophe, I believe the government should re-consider incinerating the Metro's garbage and convert it to electricity. It is a choice of the lesser evil. I am dismayed by the amount of garbage that has been washed-up and strewn back into the metro cities as a result of flooding. The tiny city-state of Singapore, incinerates all its garbage and yet you dont feel the smog or pollution.

Maybe it is because Singapore is such a small city that it's emissions do not have as much effect as the ones found in Manila. In Manila, we have so many sources including the usual suspects like the buses, trucks, motorcycles, factories, rotting garbage in the city and in landfills, etc.

As for the incinerator suggestion, I think it is a good idea as compared to the landfill option. But we have to be careful because burning of certain materials can release carcinogens and other toxins into the atmosphere. The incinerator much burn at a very high temperature to ensure that these are destroyed.

[Benji_DCP]

Maybe it is because Singapore is such a small city that it's emissions do not have as much effect as the ones found in Manila. In Manila, we have so many sources including the usual suspects like the buses, trucks, motorcycles, factories, rotting garbage in the city and in landfills, etc.

As for the incinerator suggestion, I think it is a good idea as compared to the landfill option. But we have to be careful because burning of certain materials can release carcinogens and other toxins into the atmosphere. The incinerator much burn at a very high temperature to ensure that these are destroyed.

Yes, Singapore is very small and has much tighter vehicle/factory emission controls which contributes to a better atmosphere. There may be lot of other things that would make this state so much better than ours. We may have cities that are even larger than Singapore itself. So for a small city-state, incinerating all its solid waste may have some advantages that could be worth looking into.

If each individual Metro Manila city would handle its own solid waste disposal through incineration, instead of dumping them into the backyard of neighboring towns, we should have lesser garbage to worry about. Now we read in the news, the finger pointing by our government officials...

I believe the technology to safely burn/dispose of garbage, is available, but it may not be perfect though. I recall having watched an episode on Discovery Channel about garbage incineration, wherein the toxins in the emission gases could even be collected.

The decision of government to ban this so called clean/green incinerators has been muddled in politics again in the 90's. Incinerators by now should be much better designed.

[ghosthunter]

The decision of government to ban this so called clean/green incinerators has been muddled in politics again in the 90's. Incinerators by now should be much better designed.

Unfortunately, this will be a major hurdle. Getting the politicians to reverse their ruling on banning the use of incinerators will take a long time (and lots of grease money).

I am not sure but a power station fueled by garbage might be a "loop-hole" since it is technically not an incinerator.

[Benji_DCP]

Unfortunately, this will be a major hurdle. Getting the politicians to reverse their ruling on banning the use of incinerators will take a long time (and lots of grease money).

I am not sure but a power station fueled by garbage might be a "loop-hole" since it is technically not an incinerator.

This country has a lot of lawyers to exploit loopholes in the Clean-Air Act... couple this with new technology arguments and developments. Who could champion this?

But, such is our country; politics, patronage, corruption, analysis-paralysis. We may still find ourselves wallowing in our own garbage in the next few years.

[safeorigin]

or we could turn them into tiles. . .

[Benji_DCP]

or we could turn them into tiles. . .

or bricks which can be used to pave side walks.

[ehnriko]

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[jpdm]

Yes, we need all the available certified clean technology that we can get to save our environment.

Either we destroy ourselves or nature will do it for us..our immediate extinction.

Concrete action I can propose. (related to auto industry)

Enact a law to totally ban the importation of second hand vehicles (these is a law on a ban against right hand vehicles, EO against surplus vehicles from free port and ban on used clothes and toxic materials etc. A law with more teeth. Consolidate all laws.). These countries just want to export their junks and earn from it. Instead of spending large amount recycling or ridding their wastes/junks they throw and sell these hazards in the country. Those used TVs, PCs, monitors,washing machines, bicycles, clothes should be ban from entering Philippine shores. Arrest all sellers of these products.