TVR cars

[ghosthunter]

Since the Philippines can't manufacture curved sheet metal, maybe the local manufacturers can go for an alternative material, fiberglass (as shown by BAR).

TVR cars are generally a limited production sports car with a mix and match of parts taken from different manufacturers and assembled together into a tubular frame chassis and wrapped in a beautifully sculptured fiberglass body.











I would think with mass production, fiberglass panels will be cheaper. Engines can be sourced as needed/required but limited to maybe two to three types to ensure proper fitting in the chassis along side other engine bay components.

[architect]

I like the idea. Hopefully we can design and produce something distinct enough that can become an identity for Philippine (sports) vehicles.

[renzo_d10]

Question but quite off of the topic. I`m just curious though.

How much does each vehicle of TVR costs ?

[jpdm]

I like the idea. Hopefully we can design and produce something distinct enough that can become an identity for Philippine (sports) vehicles.

Yes, agree with the idea too.

[uls]

Koenigsegg



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History

The initial design of the Koenigsegg CC was drawn by Christian von Koenigsegg. He then went with his sketches to Industrial Designer David Crafoord in order for him to realize the sketches into a scale 1:5 model. David then laid his personal touch to the design brief and finished the model. This model was later scaled up by Sven-Harry Åkesson in order to create the base plug for the initial Koenigsegg prototype that was finished in 1996. During the next years the prototype went through extensive testing and several new prototypes were built.

Von Koenigsegg got the idea to build his own car after watching the Norwegian puppet movie Pinchcliffe Grand Prix in his youth.[3] However, he took his first steps in the world of business in his early 20's running a trading company called Alpraaz in Stockholm, Sweden. Alpraaz exports food from Europe to the developing world. The success of this venture gave von Koenigsegg the necessary financial standing to launch his chosen career as a car manufacturer.

Initially, Koenigsegg Automotive was based in Olofström. In 1997, The company needed larger facilities and moved to Margretetorp, just outside of Ängelholm. However, on February 22, 2003, one of the production facilities caught fire and was badly damaged. From 2003 and on Koenigsegg has converted two large fighter-jet hangars and an office building into a car factory. Since the factory is located on the still-active Ängelhol"m airport, clients can arrive by private jet right next to the factory. Furthermore, Koenigsegg controls and uses the former military runway for shakedown runs of production cars and high speed testing.

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make your money first

when you're loaded, then pursue your passion

[niky]

Question but quite off of the topic. I`m just curious though.

How much does each vehicle of TVR costs ?

Last I remember, the equivalent of about 4-5 million pesos. And that's before importation costs. Of course, since they're made in the UK, a lot of that cost is local taxes in the UK... if they built a LHD version for export (they've been planning to for the longest time, but it never seems to materialize), I'd say it would cost about 6-8m to bring in.

6-8m for a car that's faster around a track than an M3 but probably not as fast as a Nissan GT-R, built of fiberglass and smelling of horse. Fantastic looking cars, though...

[donbuggy]

Since the Philippines can't manufacture curved sheet metal, maybe the local manufacturers can go for an alternative material, fiberglass (as shown by BAR).

TVR cars are generally a limited production sports car with a mix and match of parts taken from different manufacturers and assembled together into a tubular frame chassis and wrapped in a beautifully sculptured fiberglass body.

I would think with mass production, fiberglass panels will be cheaper. Engines can be sourced as needed/required but limited to maybe two to three types to ensure proper fitting in the chassis along side other engine bay components.

There may be a market for a cheap locally made sports car with second hand mechanicals because:

1) There is no low cost sports car in the local market today. Anybody making an inexpensive sports car will have no competition in that category.

2) Sports cars are emotional purchase items. But a properly made cheap sports car can also be a logical choice as a second car. It can be economical to run because it is lighter. Parts are readily available since these are from existing cars.

3) A locally made sports car with the right styling can be desirable. Park any foreign made 4-door sedan to Bar Stunner's car and the foreign car looks boring by comparison.

4) Sports cars are fun to drive because of better power-to-weight ratios.

The question is - if a locally made sports car is such a good idea, why didn't Binky Victa succeed with his Conge cars? I don't know. Maybe the Conge did not have that panache that sports cars are supposed to have, that "gotta have one" factor (example: Miata). I remember the Conge roadster looked boxy and the Conge mid-engine car had weird proportions. (Apologies to Mr. Victa. At least he was able to make cars, while most of us, myself included, just dream.)

[dprox]

Di bale, Don.
Everybody just keep dreaming.
Maybe some day we will wake up ...

... and make cars.

[Helios]

tvr used to create the sculpted body of their most expensive car with kevlar in the late 80's. kevlar on curve surfaces was unstable as most cars have to be rebodied within a year after purchase. the typhon (first pic? or is that the tuscan-r) if i'm not mistaken is made of of carbonfibre- using conventional technology. same goes for sagaris (2nd pic). young graduates were those responsible for those wild shapes coming from the not-at-all-glamorous styling studio in bristol. a bit shoddy pa nga like a shed. pero egalitarian yung workplace nila as in everybody chips in whatever they can. like anything else they weren't taken seriously locally and by the germans bec they weren't expensive enough blah blah blah. sounds familiar ah.

[Phoenix67]

maganda nga yan!!!

Textured Vegetable Roadster hehehe (joke) :D

[uls]

There may be a market for a cheap locally made sports car with second hand mechanicals because:

1) There is no low cost sports car in the local market today. Anybody making an inexpensive sports car will have no competition in that category.

2) Sports cars are emotional purchase items. But a properly made cheap sports car can also be a logical choice as a second car. It can be economical to run because it is lighter. Parts are readily available since these are from existing cars.

3) A locally made sports car with the right styling can be desirable. Park any foreign made 4-door sedan to Bar Stunner's car and the foreign car looks boring by comparison.

4) Sports cars are fun to drive because of better power-to-weight ratios.

The question is - if a locally made sports car is such a good idea, why didn't Binky Victa succeed with his Conge cars? I don't know. Maybe the Conge did not have that panache that sports cars are supposed to have, that "gotta have one" factor (example: Miata). I remember the Conge roadster looked boxy and the Conge mid-engine car had weird proportions. (Apologies to Mr. Victa. At least he was able to make cars, while most of us, myself included, just dream.)

let me answer that --

let's say i'm in the market for a cheap sports car (cheap is relative so i'll just come up with a reasonable figure: P1,000,000 or lower)

P1,000,000 budget

what sports car can i buy?

second hand Miata, second hand Nissan 200SX, a second hand Eclipse, second hand Evolution... (i'm sure there are other choices... kayo na mag isip)

let's say we throw in a brand new 100% pinoy made sports car priced under P1,000,000

Question: would you gamble your hard earned money on the pinoy sports car?

remember, it's hard earned money

if you make a wrong decision, you'll hate yourself

well?

[ghosthunter]

Actually, I was considering a Porsche 356 Speedster replica if it was a few thousands cheaper and the waiting time for delivery wasn't that many months.

[OyiL]

let me answer that --

let's say i'm in the market for a cheap sports car (cheap is relative so i'll just come up with a reasonable figure: P1,000,000 or lower)

P1,000,000 budget

what sports car can i buy?

second hand Miata, second hand Nissan 200SX, a second hand Eclipse, second hand Evolution... (i'm sure there are other choices... kayo na mag isip)

let's say we throw in a brand new 100% pinoy made sports car priced under P1,000,000

Question: would you gamble your hard earned money on the pinoy sports car?

remember, it's hard earned money

if you make a wrong decision, you'll hate yourself

well?

mali ka. i like the BAR. fans ako nyan.

[jpdm]

mali ka. i like the BAR. fans ako nyan.

Agree, mali yan uls na yan. Sya lang yun..

Kung ayaw nya, baka may ibang Pinoy gustong bumili.

Maganda ginawa ni Bar at turbo.

[jpdm]

let me answer that --

let's say i'm in the market for a cheap sports car (cheap is relative so i'll just come up with a reasonable figure: P1,000,000 or lower)

P1,000,000 budget

what sports car can i buy?

second hand Miata, second hand Nissan 200SX, a second hand Eclipse, second hand Evolution... (i'm sure there are other choices... kayo na mag isip)

let's say we throw in a brand new 100% pinoy made sports car priced under P1,000,000

Question: would you gamble your hard earned money on the pinoy sports car?

remember, it's hard earned money

if you make a wrong decision, you'll hate yourself

well?

Of course these are just hypothetical scenarios.

So, for me, there will be Pinoys or foreigners that will gamble for a Pinoy sports car.(check barstunner's ad in the internet)

And its their money and not yours.

Now, if you want to buy second hand sports car, them buy them. Some people here wants to have their OWN (made by their hands) SPORTSCAR or maybe sell their own creations. Sino ba ang ayaw na ang creation mo ay mag-eenjoy mo na ay kikita ka pa?

Tsaka masyado mong ina-under-estimate capability ng Pinoy at mga tao dito na i-market produktong gagawin nila. In the first place, gagawa ba si bar ng sportscar at uubos ng malaking pera kung alam nyang walang bibili?

Anyway, again, pera pagod hirap nila yun at wala ka ng pakiaalam dun.Kung ayaw mong kumilos, at gusto mong takutin sarili mo sa mga puro na lang negative scenarios mo at walang humpay na panlalait sa Pinoy, ikaw na lang. Yung iba dito gusto nilang paligayahin ang sarili nila.

Read on the success of bar and turbo in this thread before spreading your crab mentality and negativity here.

So, if you are not interested with this idea just stop putting down the enthusiasm of people here in this thread..

[actor21]

Actually, I was considering a Porsche 356 Speedster replica if it was a few thousands cheaper and the waiting time for delivery wasn't that many months.

boss GH magkano ang ganitong replica at ilang buwan ang waiting time? pwede kaya mag request ng Automatic Transmission nito? sino ang kokontakin? Thanks

[jpdm]

boss GH magkano ang ganitong replica at ilang buwan ang waiting time? pwede kaya mag request ng Automatic Transmission nito? sino ang kokontakin? Thanks

Sir, suggestion lang po. You may check bar stunner baka gumagawa sya ng ganito...

[ghosthunter]

boss GH magkano ang ganitong replica at ilang buwan ang waiting time? pwede kaya mag request ng Automatic Transmission nito? sino ang kokontakin? Thanks

At the time, 800K and 6 to 12 months depending on the backlog. But last I heard (years ago), the owner of the shop has moved to the USA.

[ghosthunter]

Sir, suggestion lang po. You may check bar stunner baka gumagawa sya ng ganito...

The one I am referring to is not just a tube frame and a fiberglass shell. It is a replica of the real thing, complete with details like a full interior, accurate dash and instruments,etc. And it handles well without quirks.

[jpdm]

The one I am referring to is not just a tube frame and a fiberglass shell. It is a replica of the real thing, complete with details like a full interior, accurate dash and instruments,etc. And it handles well without quirks.

Ok, thanks for the correction and clarification.